Acid

[thegreenhand]

i eat alot of LSD and that full true ego death is very rare hell this time i just popped two tabs wanting to have a strong visual recreational trip and just when i lest expected it. So many times i have gone in trying for ego death and nothing. Shit i believe it might be one of those 1 in a 40 type trip things or more.

Perhaps it’s better that way. I mean if every trip induced ego death it’d be a lot less special. One time I actually had a very similar experience while stone cold sober but I was dancing. It was in a club on Halloween and I was just completely free from earthly desires or thoughts. At one point I reached a state in which I experienced a near identical state of dissolution (only about 5 secs) and my god it was beautiful. But it hasn’t happened since even if I dance on LSD for example. Those moments are definitely something to be treasured

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Just fucking realized today is the anniversary date of my first fucking acid trip fuck me no wonder i got hit with the transcendent moment i didn't even pay attention to the date til just now sitting here in this holy afterglow and just it hit finally clicked. Destiny sure does play out after all these years brings me so much joy that the shit i saw so long ago is still coming true from the infinite multiverse i witnessed

 

[Inso]

That's awesome mate. Mods rename this the UK psychedelics thread? I'd be interested in more discussion on them. Also where's the bloody weed thread do I need to start one up too

 

[benson7]

I prefer shrooms to acid, the experience feels more spiritual and I find it fits perfectly with a lot of my favourite music. There is nothing better than growing your own mushrooms, picking them and then immediately eating them, the experience is mind blowing.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

For myself LSD feels just as spiritual all psychedelics do including high dose weed.

Though LSD at lower doses does feel less. Learys spirtual dose was 400 ug. 150 ug + is very spiritual. 250 ug you are pretty much going to experince the mystical reality of god if you have no tolerance. 300 ug is total space travel. Shrooms feel alot more grounded to earth and spirit. LSD is high outspace universe tripping almost feels like your in a giant infinite simulation on high doses. LSD 500 ug is where you will no find no limit to the experince of consciousness.

250 ug had me just the other day seeing every object just swirling like a torrent of colour and energy the entire carpet was whole another world mind blowing looking at the ceiling i could see to the start of the big bang after my ego death.

I think the preference comes down to how long you like to trip and whatever your first psychedelic trip was on.

I truly believe everybody should push up to at least ture 250 ug of LSD once in their lives if they haven't already. I still am in shock to this day that albert hoffman managed to even make it home without completely losing his mind on 250 ug first time.

Im going to leave bigger breaks now instead of weekly tripping in hopes i can have more transcendent moments.

I think ego death could probably be achieved time if i took 400-500 ug with a 3 month break each time but those levels of trips are a bit much with no tolerance.


How many people ever trip in total darkness this is pretty much the way i do it most of the time and sometimes put some lights on for a little while. Its good to see so much LSD around these days that is good dose and quality alot more liquid aswell and very cheap.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

The way any given dose varies a lot with each individual. I seldom get much of a trip on 100 ug and I have a clean consistent source. My goto dosage is 350 and has been since the mid 60's, so you can see there is quite a variance between people.

 

[thegreenhand]

LSD is my favorite too, presumably because it was my first psychedelic and that trip was also by far my most transformative. I took 100 ug (maybe less tbh it was one tab and I doubt it was really 100) and I didn’t have an ego death but during that trip I realized that there wasn’t just one way to see life.

One tab is my ideal dose, personally. I’m mostly functional but definitely still tripping. Visuals stay minimal which I was what I like. They can sometimes distract me from the mental aspects of the trip. And I’m usually able to sleep in like 9-10 hours which is nice

 

[TripSitterNZ]

I like to mix up what dose i take every trip. Sometimes going back to basics with a low dose of 100 ug if i had a very very hardcore trip before it. Im going to give LSD a break for a little bit been going hardcore this year again on it. Going to light up changa next week.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

The problem is that acid makes you think for yourself. Governments would rather have a population sedated on benzos and opioids than potentially see 'the truth'.

I honestly believe this to be the truth. There is zero reason for the classic psychedelics to be class A except for this.

Booze and fags yeah no problem, sell 'em in every newsagent and supermarket. Prozac and Lyrica yeah no worries here's a few hundred a month on repeat. Let's advertise the 10 million different online casinos in between the latest mind numbing reality TV so people on low income or without jobs during a recession can gamble away what little they have left. But don't worry cuz if you get on social media and tweet this hashtag now you can win a grand!

Numb yourself and distract yourself all you like, but don't you dare start having any free thought.

I actually have a copy of Brave New World right here next to me, how appropriate...

I took the whole thing over the course of the day and it felt like acid (always a chance it could be fake, but pretty reliable source), done it a few times many years ago, but it's like it never got going. Had a big body buzz, but there was no trip and almost no psychedelic effect aside from a bit of colour appreciation. Had a positive effect on my headache, but it must be dampened by my meds. Very disappointed lol.

There's some other tabs around soon, I will try those too. Didn't do any harm, was a very nice buzz, but maybe these are weak or something.

Honestly I reckon all those other meds you're on probably killed the psychedelic mindset mate. I am pretty certain pregabalin alone would do it easily. I wouldn't bother trying to trip again unless you're willing to at least lower your pregab dose for a few days prior.

Do you prefer acid or shrooms? Are they hugely different? Never done shrooms myself

Personally I prefer acid because it keeps you in the driving seat while shrooms take the wheel. But I've had others tell me the opposite is true for them. It's all subjective, and especially when it comes to psychedelics, obviously set and setting plays a huge part too.

That's awesome mate. Mods rename this the UK psychedelics thread? I'd be interested in more discussion on them. Also where's the bloody weed thread do I need to start one up too

You're the OP I think you can actually rename the thread yourself by editing the first post.

 

[thegreenhand]

I like to mix up what dose i take every trip. Sometimes going back to basics with a low dose of 100 ug if i had a very very hardcore trip before it. Im going to give LSD a break for a little bit been going hardcore this year again on it. Going to light up changa next week.

Yeah last summer I went hard with the psychs and the weed so this summer I’m just taking it easy and working on mindfulness without drugs. I’ll still do some of course but not I like I did then. In fact, my buddy is gonna be back in town so I’m looking forward to taking some MDMA with him When I do use acid this summer (at least for my next trip) I’ve decided I want to take like 50-100 ug and then go on a big fat run. LSD’s physical effects are some of my favorite

 

[G_Chem]

I sourced some white on white blotter acid from America a few years back and it so much smoother then any of the euro acid I had ever taken. The euro stuff to me always feels slightly uncomfortable after the peak but this wow stuff was incredibly smooth and refreshing, like tripping with your face in a mountain stream. I don't know if this is because the American stuff was purer or because we are sold something entirely different over here.

Funny you mention this... I use almost exclusively US white on white, from the same people for many years. That said I’ve gotten euro blotters too and there’s a certain “edge” to them that I can’t quite explain.

This white on white is so on point, fun, spiritual, laughter is the best medicine type of LSD. The euro was sharp, analytical, forceful, unfriendly at times. I’ve never once had a paranoid thought on any dosage of WoW but these euro blotters can.

That said, the euros can sometimes push my mind in a direction that later turns to be positive. The analytical nature can bring about interesting new thoughts and ideas.

The WoW is more of “go with the flow” kind of feel and while still equally insightful, does so in a more subtle manner.

I like having some of that edgier blotter around but 9 times out 10 go with WoW.

Know though in the US there is still dirty/impure LSD floating around as WoW. You got to know the right folks. I got old friends in CO that mess around with LSD half the price the shit I get but it feels half the quality too. Tests perfect on reagents but it’s not the ultra pure crystal that seems to float around some circles.

-GC

 

[Ismene2]

Anyway if they really are 300ug you definitely want to cut it in half for a first time trip. A true 100ug dose of high quality acid is plenty strong. I remember getting TT tabs that were confirmed at something like 98% purity and dosed at 100ug, they were good fucking shit! 100ug is an ideal dose if the acid is that high quality.

That was exceptionally good xtal though.

Do you think you can get different "puritys" of acid tho wilson? I mean - LSD is a specific arrangement of molecules in a lattice. It's LSD or it isn't. There's no "Whoops, I put the oxygen in the wrong place on the lattice so now it's LSD in a wonky stylee". You can get different concentrations of LSD - 50mg instead of 100mg - but you can't get any "impure LSD" can you?

 

[Ismene2]

This white on white is so on point, fun, spiritual, laughter is the best medicine type of LSD. The euro was sharp, analytical, forceful, unfriendly at times. I’ve never once had a paranoid thought on any dosage of WoW but these euro blotters can.

Owsley mentioned something about this - he once made a batch of acid then dyed some of the blotter red, some purple, some blue. Then he started hearing reports like "The blue is righteously mellow but the red is a bummer". It was all the same acid.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Do you think you can get different "puritys" of acid tho wilson? I mean - LSD is a specific arrangement of molecules in a lattice. It's LSD or it isn't. There's no "Whoops, I put the oxygen in the wrong place on the lattice so now it's LSD in a wonky stylee". You can get different concentrations of LSD - 50mg instead of 100mg - but you can't get any "impure LSD" can you?

Just like any other drug, you can absolutely get chemical impurities in the process of synthesis. The purity of the drug will differ depending on the lab. Even an actual pharma lab will occasionally have impure batches, but they also have QC and ship out only what is tested to be sufficiently pure within the range required by local law for medicines. A black market lab, of course, will not have such safeguards, which is why you get variations in purity.

So yes if I make a batch of acid and it's 90% pure, only 90% of that is actually LSD, but the other 10% would be byproducts of production not correctly removed during synthesis. This could theoretically have an effect on the experience of the final product.

This happens with all synthetically produced illicit drugs. You get byproducts during production and, depending on your source, they may not have the capacity to remove them or simply may not care enough to do so.

When it comes to acid though it is a very tight knit community. The reason we can speculate so easily on different acid sources here is because only a few exist. So it becomes easier to generalise what different acid is often like compared to most drugs where there are many producers around the world and the different stages of synthesis are often done by different teams. With acid it's not like that, it's actually a pretty unique situation.

Owsley mentioned something about this - he once made a batch of acid then dyed some of the blotter red, some purple, some blue. Then he started hearing reports like "The blue is righteously mellow but the red is a bummer". It was all the same acid.

This is a factor too for sure. The mind is a strong thing.

Effect of colour of drugs: systematic review of perceived effect of drugs and of their effectiveness.

OBJECTIVE: To assess the impact of the colour of a drug's formulation on its perceived effect and its effectiveness and to examine whether antidepressant drugs available in the Netherlands are different in colour from hypnotic, sedative, and anxiolytic ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Ismene2]

250 ug had me just the other day seeing every object just swirling like a torrent of colour and energy the entire carpet was whole another world mind blowing looking at the ceiling i could see to the start of the big bang after my ego death.

Do you find acid as psychedelic as DMT and shrooms TripS? I've always found it a little disappointing for music and a lot less interesting when sitting in a room. Good for walking round in nature tho - cos it lasts longer and it does have a sweet effect on the sky and the trees.

 

[Ismene2]

Just like any other drug, you can absolutely get chemical impurities in the process of synthesis.

The difference is the LSD is on a blotter and there arn't many impurities active at microgram blotter doses. Most other drugs will be powder - you can drop a thousand other drugs and impurities into a kilo bag of cocaine. You can't put impurities into a blotter of acid.

If you get the synthesis wrong with LSD it simply won't be active. It's either LSD or you bin it and start again because it has no effect.

 

[TripSitterNZ]

Do you find acid as psychedelic as DMT and shrooms TripS? I've always found it a little disappointing for music and a lot less interesting when sitting in a room. Good for walking round in nature tho - cos it lasts longer and it does have a sweet effect on the sky and the trees.

Proper dosed LSD is one of the strongest experinces on this planet. LSD should be the best psychedelic for music. If it isn;t its very weak. 200 ug will rearrange everything single object in the room into something else. 500 ug you are no longer having a human experince with no tolerance. 1000 ug is getting into dangerous psychosis that blows every other substance out of this planet you are no longer in this plane or life its hyperspace on LSD imagine a total DMT breakthrough for 10 hours straight but with the stimulation from the LSD you lose your mind.

 

[Ismene2]

I've always found tryptamines more enjoyable for music - shrooms specifically but DMT is gorgeous too - mescaline too for electric guitar music. Even at high doses or LSD I don't think it's as psychedelic as shrooms. I remember Mckenna saying it was a shame LSD became the most popular than shrooms because shrooms are the better drug - but economies of scale made LSD easier to distribute so it took over.

I've reached the stage where I could take 500-1000mics but that was through taking it every week and having a bigger tolerance. Taking 1000mics when I'm not tolerant is just unpleasant - no fun at all. It's a lot less forgiving than taking too many shrooms. And it's also very physically unpleasant. That's why I always called bullshit when Nareem Baba or whatever his name was - Ram Dass's conman - said he'd taken 1200mics for the first time in his life and just sat there with a smile on his face. At the very least he would've been physically restless. (of course he palmed it and never took it but that's another story)

 

[Wilson Wilson]

The difference is the LSD is on a blotter and there arn't many impurities active at microgram blotter doses. Most other drugs will be powder - you can drop a thousand other drugs and impurities into a kilo bag of cocaine. You can't put impurities into a blotter of acid.

If you get the synthesis wrong with LSD it simply won't be active. It's either LSD or you bin it and start again because it has no effect.

You are confusing chemical impurities with cuts. They're not the same thing.

A chemical impurity is the result of an imperfect synthesis, it's not the result of cutting the drug purposefully.

 

[GearoftheYear]

Do you think you can get different "puritys" of acid tho wilson?

Different synth routes give a slightly different end result in LSD. MDMA and many other drugs are the same, there's a clear difference between the 'licorice' and 'brown' mdma that is going about at the moment, the former is much more trippy but slightly weaker.

The amount of impurities like ISO-LSD also have an affect on purity.

ISO-LSD is said to be inactive, but I've found batches that are said to be refined with extra steps in the synth to remove it to be much cleaner. However, most acid in the past 5 years or so has been really great quality and I haven't seen impure stuff in a long time. When acid was a bit more scarce after the Hofmann 2000s and Red Star dots I noticed an increase in 'dirtier' feeling acid.

Placebo is also a very interesting thing. Set and setting makes a difference too. There are lots of variables that affect how a trip feels. I've a 'friend' who has given people acid blotter off the same sheet on one occasion, been told it was "extremely clean and strong" then when given out the same acid on another occasion the same person complained it "was dirty or not as strong as the old batch" - they didn't know it was off the same sheet.

I've also had great trips on 'dirty' acid and bad trips on 'clean' acid. There has been some pretty in depth discussions on this in PD. But a lot of people are very adament on their own opinion and not open to others thoughts.

For ego death, if you eat acid every weekend you'll probably not ego death at high doses. But if you take 6-12 months off and dose a fairly high dose you'll find it much easier to induce. Ketamine and other drugs also really amplify the chance of ego death, also sitting and meditating. I find it's less likely to happen if walking around etc. In a lot of instances I've seen someone freak out and get naked, running off down the street before hitting an ego death - it's worth having a sitter if you are trying to achieve it on a high dose of LSD if you haven't before as the last thing you want to do is be getting an IV drip naked in a hospital, or end up in a cell.