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Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

I got into it in the early 90's, I was just a weed smoker at the time, I loved my weed and acid. But I loved a guy who used H, he told me he just did it on weekends to party I went through the whole thought process of, "I've tripped acid, I can handle this stuff, I'll just do it once so he thinks I'm cool, then I'll never do it again." First time was great, after vomiting my guts up, I felt so good, so light, numb to my problems.. at peace.. but that was the last peaceful feeling I'd have for about a year. Next day I felt like crap and the guy said, just do a line and you'll feel better. I did, I felt better and I missed being numb, I missed the peaceful, accepted, feeling.. so that night was the second time he shot me up. I lied to myself with "I can party like this guy, just do it socially, withdrawal won't be that big a deal, I'll just get stoned or eat some zannies, he cares about me and will protect to me, he'll be there for me". I ended up moving in with this guy and used for about a year, daily. Facts, he lied, he actually used every single day, you HAVE to use everyday or you are violently sick, wanna crawl out of your own skin, kill yourself to make the jerking, spasms , cramps, shits & pain stop. I was shooting H in the am, smoking crack throughout the day & then H at night. He got violent when he couldn't find anything, he hit me many times. We were out for about a day and I overheard him offering me sexually to some street bum just to find him some H. I called my family and they came to the city and got me, took me to a medically assisted (methadone) detox, got me a therapist. I made the choice to wean off the methadone because they only want to up your dose, it's not a transition drug, just another drug the state sells you, forever. I lost 5 friends\family in the 90's to OD, then 5 more recently during the opioid epidemic. I was so so lucky. I've never used again and after the withdrawal, what sane person would choose to? It's absolute hell in earth, and I've had cancer, chemo, etc, nothing was worse than H. Id never do it again and I hope if you are wanting to do it once and you read this, you will realize it's not fun, you can not handle it, you may die from it and if you don't OD, when the withdrawals start, you will wish you had died. Be unique, be brave, be something, anything.. just be alive.
 
What? A bust for actual real heroin and not fentanyl? Are the cartels deciding to follow harm reduction practices? Or are they just trying not to kill off their customers? But you can see one reason why they switched to fet, it's a lot harder to smuggle 55 gallon barrels.
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Four suspected drug traffickers were caught in Tigard, Oregon, last week, suspected of transporting nearly 370 gallons of liquid heroin, the U.S. Attorney's Office said. Prosecutors released photos of
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Yeah H was my love. When fentanyl came out I was like wtf is this bullshit just makes me sleepy…not my thing. And I would OD too much.

To put it in perspective I OD’d on H only once that I can think of in 3 years that I was an IV user. And that was only because I had a killer stash of H and I had a couple bottles of Xanax. I didn’t like Xanax at the time. I just took them to help a buddy out but anyhow I took a couple and blacked out. I usually was very careful with H and I wasn’t when I blacked out. Luckily I didn’t die. I vaguely remember rolling down the hill off a few way exit d all the cars driving by.

Anyhow, fentanyl. I only took it maybe 10 times in my life. I had to thoroughly figure out if I liked it ya know? lol.

But seriously could t figure out what all the hype was about compared to real heroin. It’s just kinda a flat buzz to me that’s mostly sedating. Well out of the ten times I OD’d probably about 6 of them. So yeah, I tried just snoring even. Nope OD’d.

No safe way whatsoever to use fentanyl off the street
 
Haven’t been on BL in ages but saw this pinned thread. LMAO at the timing of the first post. 2014-2015 was maybe the very last time-ish that choosing to do H specifically was generally feasible. Fast-forward only a couple years from then and what became available?? RIP H.
 
I tried it once, at a party in a doctor's office. I didn't like the snorting process, and was a little reluctant to it. Somehow I managed, and it give me a nice feeling, but I didn't really felt "high". Guess because of the amount.

A few years later some friends I was hanging out with got some heroin from a dealer they didn't know, and I was curious but they wouldn't let me try. One of the guys who was into stimulants snorted it like he would cocaine, and half an hour later he felt sick and I guess he also had a panic attack. Though a few hours later he said that once the nausea and unexpected physical sensations passed, he felt quite nice.

After that I was offered heroin on two occasions, and both times I declined because it wasn't the right place and time and.people for experiments.

Now I kind of regret not having said yes.
 
I tried it once, smoking it while also snorting coke. It's quite possible that I didn't do a proper job of smoking because I didn't have anyone to show me how, or that the coke was a problem. Whatever, all I can say is that I threw up horribly for 3 days and the high itself was pretty dull though definitely there.
Yeah, probably I didn't do it right but it left me with zero desire to do it again, probably for the best. I also got sick as hell trying morphine once (snorting), plus had a several other really boring sleepy experiences on morphine. Zero euphoria. Did dilaudids a few times and kinda liked them, euphoric, though it's not a feeling I would say was so great due to queasiness and dizziness.
One might conclude that opiates just aren't right for me but I used to enjoy codeine quite a bit (not sure now) and I like the occasional oxy or Vicodin quite a bit. I think my body just needs it to be a small dose, small doses are great. I suppose if I was doing opiates regularly that my tolerance would go up and I could learn to enjoy higher doses, maybe I could even learn to enjoy heroin. But I don't have regular sources or ever any quantity so I never have to deal with that dilemma. All for the best.
 
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One might conclude that opiates just aren't right for me
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People are different in their preferences. The friend I told who liked amphetamines and snorted the heroin as if it was cocaine (though it wasn't like Uma Thurman in Pup Fiction) said he would never do it again because though not unpleasant once he got used to the effects, he didn't like it. He also never took any benzos to come down from amphetamine/cocaine. Not sure what he took, if anything at all. then there was the other guy who;s been on fluniz for a decade and who did everything besides cannabis and hallucinogenics. And the third one was only on benzos and alcohol (but that was for the taste, not to get drunk). And they were close friends and they could party every weekend, each on his own lever and I as the "baby" with just beer and the occasional sip of vodka, gin or whisky. Guess it was the time I had most fun and felt most connected to people and safe around others in my life.
 
lecroute said:
People are different in their preferences. The friend I told who liked amphetamines and snorted the heroin as if it was cocaine (though it wasn't like Uma Thurman in Pup Fiction) said he would never do it again because though not unpleasant once he got used to the effects, he didn't like it. He also never took any benzos to come down from amphetamine/cocaine. Not sure what he took, if anything at all. then there was the other guy who;s been on fluniz for a decade and who did everything besides cannabis and hallucinogenics. And the third one was only on benzos and alcohol (but that was for the taste, not to get drunk). And they were close friends and they could party every weekend, each on his own lever and I as the "baby" with just beer and the occasional sip of vodka, gin or whisky. Guess it was the time I had most fun and felt most connected to people and safe around others in my life.
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Yeah, I know what you mean about preferences. I think my preference in all drugs is not to be too high. I'm acutely aware of hangovers of all sorts and hate them. I'm like the pre-historic hunter-gatherer who is willing to try all the wild mushrooms in the woods but stops if he gets the slightest stomach ache.
I think probably my preference is toward stimulating drugs that nudge my mood to happiness while essentially staying myself, staying in control. That's what I like about a small dose of opiates or kratom, it's stimulating and mood enhancing but mild. Likewise a bit of alcohol is a happy thing for me. A lot is not. For me, more is never better. I tried crack a few times, thought the feeling was the best I ever felt, like something I could really imagine being addicted to. But after 10 minutes and I crashed, I felt absolutely the worst I could imagine. I could never forget about that bad part. Meth is riskier for me because you really do get a nice all day feeling if you keep the dosage low. But what a slippery slope that could be! Luckily (in some ways), I have no friends who get high beyond weed or alcohol, no drug sources, so it's easy enough to avoid slippery slopes. But I get what you are saying about having fun and having felt connected while partying safely with people. I liked my old time party buddies. Those were fun days but I haven't had that in many years. I get high but strictly alone. It's a bit lonely not having anybody to share and chat about my drug hobby with, except here on BL. But I don't think people would even want to party with me because I'm too lightweight, and that's fine. I gotta be me.
 
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