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RCs Big n Dandy 4-FA (4-fluoroamphetamine) thread v.1.0

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Tried 2FA for the first time yesterday. Started with 1mg allergy test followed by 35mg a hour later with 1600mg piracetam. I was aware of the stimulation even at this dose as my heart rate went up and I had increased perspiration. Maybe a slight mood lift but nothing I would consider euphoric?

Does the quality of the euphoria increase as you get closer to 100mg? I am worried about the stimulation increasing to uncomfortable levels. I would smoke a hit or two from a blunt and I could feel my heart rate drop considerably and then the 2FA would kick its ass and bring it right back up. Didn't really enjoy smoking on the substance because of that. Not sure if I'm a fan of this stuff. I need to do another trial at a higher dose.
 
Any time I've heard 2-FA mentioned it's been as a less recreational, more study focused version of 4-FA, I think you'll be lucky to get much euphoria at all.
 
Is it safe to take benzo (xanax or diaz) with 4-FA. I usually find amps make me very anxious on the come up, ok after that
so I was thinking a small dose of benzo before the amp kicks in might smooth it out a bit, good idea or not ?
 
^ 4-fa has a very smooth come-up, and really shouldn't make you anxious, especially if you're doing reasonable doses instead of heroic doses.

That being said a friend of mine has taken xanax on it and he had no ill effects or weird interactions from the combo, so it seems plenty safe.
 
4fa, mpdv questions

the first RC i was introduced to was mpdv. i was told about it (by someone who knew about RCs but not enough to inform me of other kinds and drawbacks i guess) because i was complaining that i cant find any adderal and vyvance for appetite suppression and to aid in wakefulness and productivity

i was told later 4fa would suit my needs better. what are any particular drawbacks to 4fa? the mpdv makes me sociable as well which is good, but it makes me bloated and makes my gums hurt and the comedown sucks
 
This is a fabulous substance. Better IMO than 4-MMC or bk-MDMA. "Cleaner" VERY euphoric, tons of energy and in lower doses, concentration. Long lasting. In lower doses, it feels like Adderall. In higher doses, it feels like a 3 hour long "orgasm" with energy.

This may sound a little odd to some people, but I find this stuff MORE fiendish than mephedrone, and probably the same or possibly a bit higher than coke. To an occasional responsible user, this is a GREAT substance....always in moderation folks!!!!!!!!!!
 
^ I don't like doing higher doses of stuff, but I do like doing low-dose combos, and it was wow-wow-wow when I did 30mg 4-fa + 60mg mephedrone :)
 
I agree, there is definitely a sweet spot, I think 50-100mg is a good sweet spot. Good concentration, good mood, and stimulation.

Did anybody else take closer to 200+mg? I don't know how much I took to two times i've tried this chemical but I do know that one session was around 500mg over the course of the day. My pupils were EXTREMELY DIALATED. I mean so much that I could just barley make out a small green circle around my pupil. I did get some minor visuals as this does...I probably over did it that time.
 
It seems the new batch is an entirely different texture than the last, which mostly resembled salt. The new stuff is a clumpy white-ish powder that also smells very different when snorted and burns far less.

Think I liked the old stuff better :\

Still dig it though.


*Only side effects I've noted on 4-FA so far have been diarrhea on the comeup, jaw tension and an ADHD-like effect in which I feel restless but can't decide what to do. Can sleep on it much easier than propylhexedrine, and it doesn't seem to raise my blood pressure as much from what I can tell (no lightheadedness when standing up). Good stuff.
 
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update!

Glad everyone's well here, interesting reading about your travels GG! :)

I combined M1 & 4-fa for a party a few weeks back. Doses were 15mg Methylone & 35mg 4-fa each, in three bombs. Worked beautifully, had a great night dancing about & chattings shit. Didnt feel too bad afterwards, despite sleepless night.

Also, I recently suffered a mild chest infection which, as I'm asthmatic, made breathing slightly difficult. I spent one evening worried that if the condition continued I'd end up in A&E. The next day the asthma was worse, so I dosed 4-fa in the evenin when my gf came round coz I didnt wanna be anxious about an asthma attack & suspected 4-fa stimulating properties would act on my lungs. & I was right, felt fine all evening, no tight chest, no anxiety over the illness & the next morning my lungs had cleared a little. I've almost entirely kicked the cold now but still have a slight cough.

So, all good here & I hope the sames with all you's! :)
 
I'm interested in this combo as well....so how did you like M1 and FA? Were they both better together than each of them apart? Any snergy going on? I'm interested in hearing about this....
 
PhyllipThylamine said:
Doses were 15mg Methylone & 35mg 4-fa each, in three bombs.
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15 mg MDMC, are you sure? Looks like perhaps you omitted a 0, because 15 mg MDMC and 35 mg 4-FMP would barely have any effects in most people, let alone feeling a clear contribution (i.e. synergy) of the 15 mg MDMC in this combo.

Were they both better together than each of them apart?
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I would say so, yes. 4-FMP adds focus/clearheadedness to the MDMC (unless you overdo it ofcourse), while MDMC lengthens/increases or bumps (if taken as a supplement) the euphoria of 4-FMP - which most people consider relatively short in comparison with the residual stimulation. Only drawback of this combi is that both substances (especially MDMC) can be somewhat fiendy, which becomes particularly pronounced if you keep taking small bumps of MDMC.
 
3rd_I_blind said:
15 mg MDMC, are you sure? Looks like perhaps you omitted a 0, because 15 mg MDMC and 35 mg 4-FMP would barely have any effects in most people, let alone feeling a clear contribution (i.e. synergy) of the 15 mg MDMC in this combo.
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I get these, "are you sure, you're not missing a 0 here are you?" questions ALOT. I'm very light & small, 50kg & 168cm. I'm very fit & lean. I also, after more than 20 yrs experience, definitely have a greater sensitivity to psychedelic & stimulant compounds than most people. I have also used entatogens, stims & psychedelics very sensibly & have very litle tolerance.

These doses may indeed have very little if any effect in "most" people, but not me. I felt this combo without question & enjoyed it thoroughly. Bear in mind that once I'd finished dosing I'd had 45mg of bk-mdma (M1/Mehylone) & just over 100mg of 4-fa. I LOVED it :p

And I have editted this today to say I am/was not annoyed Lol I had a :p but I meant it the other way, not a tongue pulling moody one!
 
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as i've got adhd this appeals greatly to me (for college/projects etc) however if it is closely related to 4-mmc, having a previous habit with that shit... is it going to create a crave?

what a weirdly structured sentence.
 
^ stick to d-amphtamine

For those who are interested in combos with 4 Fa, try MDAI. That combo quickly became my favorite combo after the first time I had it.
 
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