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Demons/Evil Entities/Spirits Seen on/after Psychedelics

bighooter said:
so you are telling me that if you kidnap and repeatedly rape and torture a 12year old girl and then murder her.

That when you die your soul wont suffer in pain for eternity for all the EVIL you commited?

If that's the case then I might start murdering a few people who I really hate.
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If the only thing holding you back from murder is vague concerns about eternal damnation then I would suggest you have more to worry about than your soul. I don't kidnap, rape, torture, murder or do other "evil" things because I couldn't and wouldn't do such things not because of any concerns about what consequences may or may not result after my death from my actions in life.

Sorry to hear about your shitty situation though. Some people are just pricks sadly but I agree with Delysd - let karma (or is that LoveLite? :D) deal with such things, rise above the scumbags out there and channel your anger into something more productive. Hate hurts everyone including yourself so don't do it to yourself :)

To get back to the point of this thread, I've never encountered any entities whilst tripping or otherwise. I have felt some kind of unknown and benign presence on occasion but never actually seen that possible presence in any form. Maybe I need to smoke more DMT and go play with the elves :D
 
Shambles, have you experienced entities on DMT?

I wouldnt call mine demons as i never fealt any evil eminating from them (usually its actually full of LOVE), but break through DMT does give me on occasion the ability to communicate with entities. And more recently even low dose DMT allows me to feel they're presence, they're usually quite mischivous.
 
I think it's simply beautiful and perfect that a thread confronting the existence of evil forces has evolved into a discussion as to whether or not we should kill our friends :)

On the subject of "evil entities".

Monster comes from the Latin monstrum which can literally translate: "to show".

I like paying careful attention to things that terrify me.

Some hideous awful thing may save your life one day :)

And it might be another you.
<3=D<3
 
bighooter said:
so you are telling me that if you kidnap and repeatedly rape and torture a 12year old girl and then murder her.

That when you die your soul wont suffer in pain for eternity for all the EVIL you commited?

If that's the case then I might start murdering a few people who I really hate.
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That sounds about right, seeing as how there's no such thing as a "soul" and all :D
But I'm definitely not encouraging you to torture little girls.
 
bighooter said:
so you are telling me that if you kidnap and repeatedly rape and torture a 12year old girl and then murder her.

That when you die your soul wont suffer in pain for eternity for all the EVIL you commited?

If that's the case then I might start murdering a few people who I really hate.
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Wow

Sorry for the off-topic discussion but thats pretty fucking aweful if you ask me. I watched a video where richard dawkins was going around talking to priests and the same thing was said by one priest. The only reason he refrained from killing/raping people is because of his fear of god.

Imo, if you need the fear of god to keep you from doing horrible things you need to take a long look at yourself and your beliefs of good vs evil.
 
Really god is just a crutch for most people. Its okay for some people who need it but others just use it in a negative way. As for someone doing something horrible to you and you wanting to kill them is just hurting yourself by letting it bother you and effect you negatively. Move on and understand terrible things happen to good people all the time. As for seeing entities I once saw one after smoking a fair dose of dmt while tripping on mescaline.
 
seriously im not joking I think I would find joy n sweet revenge in kidnapping this so called ex mate who fucked me over and i'd be in sheer ecstacy if I tortured him.

N ye it is the fear of God/hell and forever suffering in pain in hell that is stopping me from doing it.

I believe as human beings we are very hostile creatures and are natural urges are to kill/ hate I honestly do think we were all born to hate sometimes.
 
I was most certainly not born to hate. I honestly don't think I could truly hate anyone. Even a nasty entity.
 
bighooter said:
I believe as human beings we are very hostile creatures and are natural urges are to kill/ hate I honestly do think we were all born to hate sometimes.
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what exactly gave you these beliefs?

People like Jesus, the Buddha, Shambles, Mother Theresa, Ghandi, etc dont exactly seem like they were born to hate
 
Were not born into some sort of a hate filled mold that causes you to be a hate filled person. Those are most certainly not natural urges. Ive never contemplated killing anyone for any reason and hatred is garnished for truly vile people although at this time I hate no man.
 
when i was a kid i used to get intense satisfaction killing bugs- perticularly wood lice...i would mass murder them and crush them with rocks...i also killed ladybirds and pulled off their wings.

being 8 or 9 this power felt addictive

but as i look back i'm now glad this part of me has long since dwindled away....i even own a pet scorpion whom i would never hurt in a million years...

must be all them drugs ;)
 
I've only once considered a hate filled violent act, because I had strong reason to believe that a certain someone had sexually assaulted the girl I loved. It was an irrational emotional reaction and a shortly after learned that this wasn't the case.

For the most part, I can't see myself really holding on a grudge/hate for someone. And there's a few people in my life that deserve it.
 
bighooter said:
i just got so much hate for someone who was meant to be my friend

he stole my car and burned it out - i had to pay to cancel the insurance and get it scrapped
robbed my house (fathers jewelery, my £700 tv, psp, i pod, mobile and ps3)
then robbed an oz of skunk from me
pretty much blagged food n heroin from me bcoz i was living at his
he robbed £400 worth of xtc from me
Overall i'd say in total he took way over £2,000 from me and police couldnt do shit because of lack of evidence

So he's walking the streets whilst im £700 in debt, have no car and no tv and basically all because of 1 scumbag of a man.

I feel so much hate for him its unreal I feel the only way to get rid of this suffering i feel on a daily basis is by killing him then Justice will be served.
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Killing your friend will not make all your shit come back which is what your really mad about. You will also have the memory of taking another life stick with you forever.

I also would have to say that it's pretty sad if the only thing holding you back from raping and murdering is fear of god/afterlife.

I also disagree with the idea that we are inherently evil as you suggested above. I actually think we are born with a significant amount of empathy for others and that this can either be suppressed or nurtured by social and cultural influences. Empathy for others of the same species serves a very obvious evolutionary benefit. They have a name for people born with absolutely zero empathy and its called a sociopath.
 
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i've seen what i'd describe as angelic creatures in battle armor on high doses of LSD

i've seen lots of demons throughout my life and had a few on my chest laughing in my face during sleep paralysis when i was trying to astral project or coming back from a projection. one i had recently was like this gargoyle laughing and saying i know your thoughts. it's scary as fuck when you can't move as well. it seems like when i sleep with the light on these things don't manifest as often

when on drugs i usually don't see or feel any presence of anything.. by presence, i mean the room becoming very cold all the sudden and feeling like i'm being watched
 
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bighooter said:
seriously im not joking I think I would find joy n sweet revenge in kidnapping this so called ex mate who fucked me over and i'd be in sheer ecstacy if I tortured him.

N ye it is the fear of God/hell and forever suffering in pain in hell that is stopping me from doing it.
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If you're not trolling, and you really have the weakness of character you portray in your posts, I have nothing but pity for you.
 
mr magic said:
hail satan? searching for demons? you guys are playing with fire..and playing russian roulette with your souls. many have seen the power of evil..but that power crumbles in the presence of the light..the true light ..that shines from our souls...that light comes from God..through the holy spirit...and no evil can compare..and all evil shall run in the presence of the son..

brothers ans sisters...rethink your ways...and search your heart and soul..then the light you will find,...and it will guide you through life... i know its hard..but be strong inside..and when confronted with tempation...dont walk down the dark path...choose the light...and fight the good fight ... peace
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:D:D:D God created everything right, including evil, also- presumadly, Satan, so if I worship Satan (which I don't), I'm just worshipping an aspect of God...:)

Light is just illumnitaed darkness, as is darkness ust the absence of light. They are the same, but different :D

Luckily, I don't believe in the christian excuse for a god; I do believe that our minds house such things as angels/demons/gods- fortunately, Jesus is not here, nor especially welcome. He seems to guilt trip everyone....:\ That is, those who believe in him/it.

Nah, the world and the universe is greater then any human invention, and worthy of respect; a book of drivel and dubious stories of a dude rising from the dead just dont cut it.

(BTW, my Hail Satan was a joke; that name means nothing to me, except as a provocateur.)

The only thing I hate is hate :) <3
 
of course people are limited to believe in what they've experienced as reality

my reality is that we're all made up of atoms..all living things are.. these atoms manifest as light, which is energy. think of electricity.. light bulbs, the sun, the stars, etc ... they're made up of living atoms/energy which light up

i believe the point of comparing darkness and light in religion is based a belief that those entities belonging to the lower dimensions or lower levels of consciousness (e.g. based on feelings like hatred, bitterness etc) represent evil forces while those which are bright belong to the highest dimensions or levels of consciousness (empathy, forgiveness, unconditional love, selflessness etc)....

i also believe the material things of the world tend to represent lower forms of consciousness... that's why something like an OBE or powerful LSD experience will never leave your memory or fail to change your impression of reality in some way.. but getting some material thing like a job or new car likely won't change your sense of reality.. people do because they project their energy (which is non-tangible/physical) and impressions upon each other through physical means and are only manifest as bodies in this realm of consiousness

a lasting impression is made upon you when it shatters your physical sense of reality because it seems so much more significant and real than anything else you'd experienced before

the same could even be compared in the physical realm.. when your body and mind are healthy you experience reality in a different way - a more real and clear-minded way.. you can suddenly think more easily about things because you aren't bogged down by unhealthy habits blocking your mind and using up all your energy. at the highest level, you can reflect upon events, objects or people without attaching any kind of emotion to them.. and when you have total control of your emotions and mind, you start to realize a lot more because your senses are open rather than blocked by negative associations which are programmed into you by society or habit

the core of our being; the free will which keeps us rooted in our physical shell, is simply light. some people call it a soul or something else... in any case, intentional focus on this light and intentional physical dissociation allows one to travel outside this realm of physical consciousness into other planes.. you can call those dimensions, states of mind, whatever you believe it is...

as i said, this is all my personal belief based on what i've experienced here. everyone and anyone is limited to their own perception. subjectivity can be a beautiful thing for the mind and revelation is a joyful bliss for me

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bighooter said:
i just got so much hate for someone who was meant to be my friend

he stole my car and burned it out - i had to pay to cancel the insurance and get it scrapped
robbed my house (fathers jewelery, my £700 tv, psp, i pod, mobile and ps3)
then robbed an oz of skunk from me
pretty much blagged food n heroin from me bcoz i was living at his
he robbed £400 worth of xtc from me
Overall i'd say in total he took way over £2,000 from me and police couldnt do shit because of lack of evidence

So he's walking the streets whilst im £700 in debt, have no car and no tv and basically all because of 1 scumbag of a man.

I feel so much hate for him its unreal I feel the only way to get rid of this suffering i feel on a daily basis is by killing him then Justice will be served.
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The fact that your willing to kill another person over 'possessions' is concerning.
 
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