Is Opiod withdrawal easy?

[smokeymcpot42088]

Aye. That would probably do me even worse. I remember doin a thumbnail bump, well maybe a little longer. Point is it was my good buddy and i though he was bein a cheap fuck lol i even think I bitched him out......five minutes later half my face was numb. Went to my girlfriends, etc. ended up with a panic attack so bad I didn't wanna walk home. (totally danger free). I was pretty young though. Haha id certainly give er a try and than im sure id be in for the session and be the whiny fool 2 hours later. Now if I have an unhuman amount of benzos for some happy reason; count me in.

who else here gets shitty coke? watch the crickets of peoples ego's deceiving them. Nzity I aint doubtin you, peru is one of the homelands after all. Had a buddy that went there, was suppose to scout the living situation, came back....Only thing he knew the price of was coke n hookers lmao. Like man sounds great but I can't make a family move based on the price of blow and ass haha. Lived in a damn tent, had trouble findin deceent pot. thats about all the info he brought back.

 

[SpiralusSancti]

If coke is without lidocaine it ain’t nearly as numbing as some people think it should be.

I think most of people get shitty coke and only one who get that it’s shitty is those who tried fire stuff (well or lab test it ofc)

Some dude was living in S. America for a few years and left back here (EU) cuz his coke problem got out of hand. Since then over few years he tried “fire” coke about a dozen times and just figured out coke in my country isn’t worth it (and with very rare exceptions in very rare circles that’s true).

I was also offered “good stuff” a few times and every time I did it (for good..hm..good bad times) it turned out (having up to 97% (coke + other natural alkaloids) stuff as reference) to be something from few percent to maybe 10% max. If I was into coke I would clean it but than with stuff of so low purity it isn’t worth. And when stuff is “fire” it’s 25 – 30% top. O yeah, and to make things worse, coke in my country ain’t even that bad as it’s entry point for certain amount.

 

[>Jester<]

no...
no it is not easy..
it is hell.

 

[nznity]

Joder dunno if I m more a fan of your stash of pharma grade opioids or of this diamond or of both. All of a sudden, me and the missus feel like visiting Perú again...

On Sunday, I finally fucking discovered why cocaine was so utterly popular in the 70s/80s. outstanding quality blow is just UNBELIEVABLE, one of the most euphoric states ive felt with good drugs xd.

 

[nznity]

If coke is without lidocaine it ain’t nearly as numbing as some people think it should be.

This is super true!!!
The coke I have on that almost doesn't numb u at all and the taste Is so good, no acetone taste or any shit. Just really good refined, cocaine hcl.

 

[skipjames]

On Sunday, I finally fucking discovered why cocaine was so utterly popular in the 70s/80s. outstanding quality blow is just UNBELIEVABLE, one of the most euphoric states ive felt with good drugs xd.

Down here coke is either Peruvian or Peruvian and indeed in the last two months I have bought some FIRE coke...are the guys cooking with ether Colombia style or find some other way to improve the quality of the product even further or...dunno? Anyway kudos Perú, keep up the good work!

 

[SpiralusSancti]

Peruvian or Peruvian

I wouldn’t mind having such a choice ☻

 

[JustferFun]

Ill tell you my situation..... I was in full withdrawal from fent but didn't know what PWD were, so I was eating an m30 and then later taking a sub or the exact opposite. What it did was end me in the ER cause I was in such pain that I couldn't take it and they had to give me morphine. They never knew I was withdrawing becuase I never told them and I don't look homeless. Anywho I didn't feel very good for a couple days and I had just moved for a job which o hard to start as I was WD from fent. I remember coming home one day when living in a hotel trying to find a place to live and I took a sub after work and remember feeling 10x better rather then before where I was VERY sick. That was 72 hours after my last dose of fent......48 after my morphine injection at the ER, yes I got the warm rush B/C I dint IV or snort so that actually was enjoyable and can understand why people IV shit.
I ended uo back on the fake m30's and had to switch to oxy and have been stuck on real oxy for awhile but I SWEAR my withdrawals from a 160mg a day habit makes me go to the hoatpital now and its just as bad as when I first got the PWD... YES it makes no fucking sense, I wake up in the middle of the night sweating feeling sick to my stomach and I take 40mg oxy to make it go away and that's just to feel normal. I got outta the er after my puke fest and had to take a hydrmorphine and snorted it cause I couldn't hold it down, I ONLY snort when im in such withdrawals I cant eat it.... THE WORST but I use to NEVER get physical withdrawals but I also haven't been on this shit this long before.

I WISH YOU THE BEST but the best advice I can give is DONT pick it back up and one u go through the WD don't go back, I gave a HUGE job interview in a couple days for the biggest career move ever, I mean seriously ill be a senior scientist at a large Pharma company with 5-6 people working research underneath me... but I have to take my oxy and have it on a higher dose to perform for this interview, after it, if they offer me the job, I QUIT cold turkey NO SUBS and its gonna suck........ don't let drugs/the rush ruin your life and opportunities, I have many time and I won't let it happen for this one.

You deserve a medal for starting a new job while withdrawing lol.

If you're still taking the oxies, the good thing is that you won't have to really worry about PWD.

When I was doing H, it was still kind of hard to get suboxone. I bought some off the street but there weren't a lot of doctors who could prescribe it. But because of the whole opioid crisis, they've relaxed the requirements to be able to prescribe it. Now, it's pretty easy to get and I think it has to be completely free (no copay), at least if you have Medicaid. I think they made that a requirement/ law, also because of the opioid crisis.

Of course, the DEA is still an antiquated fossil of an organization that has extreme tunnel vision. I believe they were even giving pharmacies problems as recently as a couple years ago. As far as I'm concerned, Suboxone should be over the counter. I'm exaggerating but restricting Suboxone distribution can only cause harm.

Here's a list of doctors that can prescribe Suboxone. They're everywhere now. You can even get it prescribed online, with only e-visits. You can search by zip code here:

Buprenorphine Treatment Practitioner Locator

www.samhsa.gov

 

[JustferFun]

You never know, trust me....I ve never been a fan of coke when I was in Europe . Opioids were and are my thing but.....if u have no access to opioids ( really, down here in South America there s basically no black market of opioids, u either know a guy who knows a guy that sells you a script or forget it) AND good coke is kinda cheap & available 24/24 7-7 ....good coke is in a category of its own, very different from other stims, with booze is cardiotoxic as fuck but what a feeling....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miax0Jpe5mA

You're just gonna have to go into the Amazon and plant some poppies. I bet that's actually doable.

 

[JustferFun]

That’s how proper coke looks like!

Yup. The stuff where I live looks like crushed up caffeine pills lol. It's so ridiculously bad. Most of the coke here is used to make crack.

 

[nznity]

Down here coke is either Peruvian or Peruvian and indeed in the last two months I have bought some FIRE coke...are the guys cooking with ether Colombia style or find some other way to improve the quality of the product even further or...dunno? Anyway kudos Perú, keep up the good work!

Hehe, even here it's hard to find coke made with ether. It's mostly acetone what they use to purify it since the 2000's. Nevertheless, the stuff that comes out isn't shiny but the purity is super high (up to 97% sometimes) fire shit for export

 

[nznity]

That’s how proper coke looks like!

Lovely product. Very oily, super gentle on the nose. The high doesn't make you feel anxious and accelerated, u are in a great mood and wanna talk, u only need a bit to be high for 30-45mins till u redose again. The best part for me is that the comedown is super chill, u don't feel like fkn shit afterwards. 10/10 product

 

[skipjames]

I wouldn’t mind having such a choice ☻

I m not complaining either Here in Brazil even the cheapest shittiest coke sold in the shittiest dodgiest "bocas de fumo ",(that shame on me I have bought at times out of desperation or of coke fuelled insanity) would be considered "decent" for European standards. But if you get some proper stuff then YABADABADOO!! It s difficult to explain but especially mixed with booze is both euphoric AND..."relaxing " for lack of a better word? Not opioid style but very different from any other stim

 

[skipjames]

You're just gonna have to go into the Amazon and plant some poppies. I bet that's actually doable.

The wife has read that poppies can harm our precious cats so has politely but firmly prohibited to even mention domestic poppy plantation ever again. She s Brazilian but of Calabrian origin, as you might have heard Calabrians, even in their "tropicalised' form, should not be taken lightly I ll either try some guerrilla gardening or convince my friendealer to get his shit together !

 

[JustferFun]

The wife has read that poppies can harm our precious cats so has politely but firmly prohibited to even mention domestic poppy plantation ever again. She s Brazilian but of Calabrian origin, as you might have heard Calabrians, even in their "tropicalised' form, should not be taken lightly I ll either try some guerrilla gardening or convince my friendealer to get his shit together !

Calabrese testa dura!

 

[skipjames]

Calabrese testa dura!

actually she s the voice of reason of the household(despite being younger than me) she considers the pro and contra of everything, she s super calm , she does not talk too much but observes everything an is one of the few people i really listen to because even when I m sober I m impulsive as fuck, imagine coked out day in day out... but when it comes to our cats she goes banana!

 

[JustferFun]

actually she s the voice of reason of the household(despite being younger than me) she considers the pro and contra of everything, she s super calm , she does not talk too much but observes everything an is one of the few people i really listen to because even when I m sober I m impulsive as fuck, imagine coked out day in day out... but when it comes to our cats she goes banana!

It sounds like you found a good one.

 

[skipjames]

It sounds like you found a good one.

grazie caro!

 

[SpiralusSancti]

The high doesn't make you feel anxious and accelerated, u are in a great mood and wanna talk, u only need a bit to be high for 30-45mins till u redose again. The best part for me is that the comedown is super chill, u don't feel like fkn shit afterwards. 10/10 product

To me when coke is good it feels almost too benign. Like when I was using it I could do amounts probably lethal, possibly many times lethal for someone without tolerance and still feel good (unlike with other stims). Only thing that with time didn’t feel right was my nose. I know coke is cardiotoxic but it feels so much easier on heart than amphs, sneaky little bastard snow lol.

I m not complaining either Here in Brazil even the cheapest shittiest coke sold in the shittiest dodgiest "bocas de fumo ",(that shame on me I have bought at times out of desperation or of coke fuelled insanity) would be considered "decent" for European standards. But if you get some proper stuff then YABADABADOO!! It s difficult to explain but especially mixed with booze is both euphoric AND..."relaxing " for lack of a better word? Not opioid style but very different from any other stim

Well good coke with no active cuts is like that for me too. In fact that’s the sole reason I got too deep into it as I’m not a huge fan of stimulants but euphoria and that relaxing feeling you mentioned grabbed me for about half a year or a year. I made it A LOT worse cuz I had etizoalm along coke.

What saved me from coke was morphine. And after years on it stopping it was really easy with a help of bit of K and good friends. Don’t have that either now but I keep thinking positive and maybe something good comes my way again.

I’m both happy I’m clean now and at the same time miss those delights.

I would and could enjoy both coke and morphine responsibly but can’t get morphine and coke here just ain’t worth smelling.

 

[SpiralusSancti]

will cold turkey off tramadol risk seizures as taking too much causes that? And why does tramadol cause seizures at higher doses?

I asked a Dr. and apparently it’s totally ok to stop tramadolum cold turkey if you can handle it. It wasn’t considered to be in the same group as “real opiods” for such a long time cuz many people are lucky in a way they hardly experience any WD’s from normal doses (up to 400mg) and usually no tapering was used (practice might have changed for cases of very prolonged use). For doses 50 – 200mg per day it’s really easy to stop for most people who don’t use it to get high. But some who suffer from undiagnosed depression and benefit from slight SNRI effects it can be nightmare and they sometimes don’t even figure out it’s in fact strong rebound depression in question and not classic opiod WD. I met a person who for that very reason found WDs worse than with both H, methadone and bupe.