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Is Opiod withdrawal easy?

smokeymcpot42088 said:
By god get the doctors and scientists, I have never heard of a reaction like this! lol sorry not picking on you or laughing at you at all, I just about spit my orange juice out when I read that lol. That is suppose to happen from what I understand about coke. (admittedly not a heavily researched topic)
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The people I've done it with didn't seem nearly as affected by the comedown as I was. I have an anxiety disorder that probably makes it worse for me.
 
DrDarkside said:
As in I will have to do it all again? How long do you think I should wait?
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Ill tell you my situation..... I was in full withdrawal from fent but didn't know what PWD were, so I was eating an m30 and then later taking a sub or the exact opposite. What it did was end me in the ER cause I was in such pain that I couldn't take it and they had to give me morphine. They never knew I was withdrawing becuase I never told them and I don't look homeless. Anywho I didn't feel very good for a couple days and I had just moved for a job which o hard to start as I was WD from fent. I remember coming home one day when living in a hotel trying to find a place to live and I took a sub after work and remember feeling 10x better rather then before where I was VERY sick. That was 72 hours after my last dose of fent......48 after my morphine injection at the ER, yes I got the warm rush B/C I dint IV or snort so that actually was enjoyable and can understand why people IV shit.
I ended uo back on the fake m30's and had to switch to oxy and have been stuck on real oxy for awhile but I SWEAR my withdrawals from a 160mg a day habit makes me go to the hoatpital now and its just as bad as when I first got the PWD... YES it makes no fucking sense, I wake up in the middle of the night sweating feeling sick to my stomach and I take 40mg oxy to make it go away and that's just to feel normal. I got outta the er after my puke fest and had to take a hydrmorphine and snorted it cause I couldn't hold it down, I ONLY snort when im in such withdrawals I cant eat it.... THE WORST but I use to NEVER get physical withdrawals but I also haven't been on this shit this long before.

I WISH YOU THE BEST but the best advice I can give is DONT pick it back up and one u go through the WD don't go back, I gave a HUGE job interview in a couple days for the biggest career move ever, I mean seriously ill be a senior scientist at a large Pharma company with 5-6 people working research underneath me... but I have to take my oxy and have it on a higher dose to perform for this interview, after it, if they offer me the job, I QUIT cold turkey NO SUBS and its gonna suck........ don't let drugs/the rush ruin your life and opportunities, I have many time and I won't let it happen for this one.
 
Delmonte421 said:
Ill tell you my situation..... I was in full withdrawal from fent but didn't know what PWD were, so I was eating an m30 and then later taking a sub or the exact opposite. What it did was end me in the ER cause I was in such pain that I couldn't take it and they had to give me morphine. They never knew I was withdrawing becuase I never told them and I don't look homeless. Anywho I didn't feel very good for a couple days and I had just moved for a job which o hard to start as I was WD from fent. I remember coming home one day when living in a hotel trying to find a place to live and I took a sub after work and remember feeling 10x better rather then before where I was VERY sick. That was 72 hours after my last dose of fent......48 after my morphine injection at the ER, yes I got the warm rush B/C I dint IV or snort so that actually was enjoyable and can understand why people IV shit.
I ended uo back on the fake m30's and had to switch to oxy and have been stuck on real oxy for awhile but I SWEAR my withdrawals from a 160mg a day habit makes me go to the hoatpital now and its just as bad as when I first got the PWD... YES it makes no fucking sense, I wake up in the middle of the night sweating feeling sick to my stomach and I take 40mg oxy to make it go away and that's just to feel normal. I got outta the er after my puke fest and had to take a hydrmorphine and snorted it cause I couldn't hold it down, I ONLY snort when im in such withdrawals I cant eat it.... THE WORST but I use to NEVER get physical withdrawals but I also haven't been on this shit this long before.

I WISH YOU THE BEST but the best advice I can give is DONT pick it back up and one u go through the WD don't go back, I gave a HUGE job interview in a couple days for the biggest career move ever, I mean seriously ill be a senior scientist at a large Pharma company with 5-6 people working research underneath me... but I have to take my oxy and have it on a higher dose to perform for this interview, after it, if they offer me the job, I QUIT cold turkey NO SUBS and its gonna suck........ don't let drugs/the rush ruin your life and opportunities, I have many time and I won't let it happen for this one.
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Thanks for sharing your story, thats a wild ride and gives me some insight.
 
smokeymcpot42088 said:
I would tend to disagree and say a single dose 3 days after quitting will not put you back to square one, the next day may not be chipper.....it certainly won't be as bad as the first day one though.
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I agree with that. And even find such behavior a legit form of tapering in a sense. Like when stopping something and taking a dose x. day after last dose (x. depending on duration and half-life of a drug) wont “reset wd” definitely. That’s kind of a myth. In fact if person is able to endure more days after that dose, and than more after that, he or she will soon be at a point where initial dose will be to high and from there can continue dropping dose and at the same time increasing number of days between doses and eventually get back to level of recreational user and not addict. Still, that’s a very hard task to do in practice, but doable.
 
JustferFun said:
The people I've done it with didn't seem nearly as affected by the comedown as I was. I have an anxiety disorder that probably makes it worse for me.
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Now that you mention it I have an anxiety disorder and never found the 30 minute (argue at will) high worth the 3 hour comedown. Like I don't understand why ppl throw money at that particular drug at all. Im sure whatever I have came across sucked too, probably also part of the problem
 
smokeymcpot42088 said:
Now that you mention it I have an anxiety disorder and never found the 30 minute (argue at will) high worth the 3 hour comedown. Like I don't understand why ppl throw money at that particular drug at all. Im sure whatever I have came across sucked too, probably also part of the problem
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I actually had some pretty good shit one time in Mexico and I still didn't feel too great afterwards.
 
AngelsandFairiesarereal said:
Oh my gosh yes! I can relate & I used to do percs & roxi’s … but tram withdrawal is something different for sure
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I played around with tramadol for a pretty short period of time because it just stopped giving me a buzz. The last time I tried to get high off of it, I took so much that I got serotonin syndrome. I'm guessing there's an aspect to the withdrawal that is similar to antidepressant withdrawal (yes, that's really a thing).
 
It’s really easy to counter that part of tramadol WD. Well easy but not really safe without either strong will or professional medical assistance. Substituting tramadol for codeine or whatever + SSRI or SNRI. Even just SSRI with benzos makes it 100x easier. Quitting tramadol cold turkey isn’t a great idea. But on the bright side broad mechanism of action in fact makes quitting with proper tools and knowledge easier that what would be with most opiods.
 
SpiralusSancti said:
It’s really easy to counter that part of tramadol WD. Well easy but not really safe without either strong will or professional medical assistance. Substituting tramadol for codeine or whatever + SSRI or SNRI. Even just SSRI with benzos makes it 100x easier. Quitting tramadol cold turkey isn’t a great idea. But on the bright side broad mechanism of action in fact makes quitting with proper tools and knowledge easier that what would be with most opiods.
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will cold turkey off tramadol risk seizures as taking too much causes that? And why does tramadol cause seizures at higher doses?
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Seizures associated with low-dose tramadol for chronic pain treatment

The management of cancer pain still poses a major challenge for clinicians. Tramadol is a centrally acting synthetic opioid analgesic. Its well-known side effects include nausea, vomiting, and dizziness; seizures are a rare side effect. Some reports have ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
JustferFun said:
I actually had some pretty good shit one time in Mexico and I still didn't feel too great afterwards.
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Aye, that further confirms my theory that cocaine is not a substance that agrees with me. Out of curiosity how much better was the stuff you got in mexico from your normal street corner ish. Like by quality of high and quantity needed?
 
smokeymcpot42088 said:
Aye, that further confirms my theory that cocaine is not a substance that agrees with me. Out of curiosity how much better was the stuff you got in mexico from your normal street corner ish. Like by quality of high and quantity needed?
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It seemed like it took less and the high was cleaner and lasted longer, and I didn't feel as bad afterwards as I had on different occasions. Still, it's highly subjective and I really don't have a lot of experience with powder cocaine. There were probably less than 10 occasions when I/ my friends had enough of it to be able to do more than a little bit. It was also a long time ago and and there could be a thousand variables that I'm not remembering or thinking of. My brain chemistry might've even changed. I've smoked crack many more times, but that was much later and I had no problem because I was doing heroin. But I have also smoked it with no heroin and it wasn't too bad of a comedown. It may have just been weak although I definitely felt it. But also, I think you get more used to it with prolonged use and it becomes easier to deal with.
 
Thank you. My experience makes no sense but I also am not a coke guy. The best coke I ever got I was like 16, than later I had a couple "friends" who would go to the metro and cop bricks and the ish straight off that kinda sucked. Yea the most I have ever had was 3 g and that lasted me all the way through christmas break. Lol i was still in school at the time. Crack oddly did very little for me, I was told my 'crack technique' sucked so w/e maybe that is it. I have been around crack under 10 times because honestly it freaks me out. heron didnt use to but now that its all fent death i cant touch that either. Sigh well the subby program does work and id rather not break the law right now.
 
WellTram said:
Yes, try to WD from crazy tramadol addiction and u will change your opinion...
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I agree 100% about tramadol. I was dependant on those for over 10 years and then suddenly was cut off. The withdrawals were literally hell on earth mainly because its a ssri and painkiller combined. I wouldn't wish the withdrawals on my worst enemy.
 
smokeymcpot42088 said:
I also am not a coke guy
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You never know, trust me....I ve never been a fan of coke when I was in Europe . Opioids were and are my thing but.....if u have no access to opioids ( really, down here in South America there s basically no black market of opioids, u either know a guy who knows a guy that sells you a script or forget it) AND good coke is kinda cheap & available 24/24 7-7 ....good coke is in a category of its own, very different from other stims, with booze is cardiotoxic as fuck but what a feeling....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miax0Jpe5mA
 
WellTram said:
Yes, try to WD from crazy tramadol addiction and u will change your opinion...
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I'm wding from tramadol rn and it sure ain't fkn fun. I'm sweating like a bastard, got chills down my spine and in awful pain. Grrr
 
skipjames said:
You never know, trust me....I ve never been a fan of coke when I was in Europe . Opioids were and are my thing but.....if u have no access to opioids ( really, down here in South America there s basically no black market of opioids, u either know a guy who knows a guy that sells you a script or forget it) AND good coke is kinda cheap & available 24/24 7-7 ....good coke is in a category of its own, very different from other stims, with booze is cardiotoxic as fuck but what a feeling....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miax0Jpe5mA
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nznity said:
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