What difference did the darknet make to your drug use?

[The Shadow Self]

I've never understood the man being behind spreading LSD tho Shadow - what was the thinking behind it? How does the effect of LSD benefit Nixon? Everybody goes off dancing in the flowers rather than marching on the streets? Is that the idea?

I've heard that the CIA/cops put lots of low cost heroin into Black Panther areas in the late 60s - that sounds plausible. But then again Huey Newton was a long time druggy - nobody needed to give Huey drugs, he found them by himself.

I'm assraping my own thread now tho - might start another on on LSD and The Man cos it's interesting.

If you start to look at the world very differently, and how small groups of people have managed to control massive swaths of humanity, it begins to make more sense. But I must admit I have spent a lifetime learning things that I cannot unknow, as it were. And when you understand that there are factions of people vying for more and more control, money, power and influence, and have been for literally hundreds of years, it makes more sense. It requires a certain level of historical understanding from a Systems Theory point of view, and long-game issues as they relate to outcomes desired by others, for their own benefit, and agendas that most people are largely unaware of, again, it makes more sense.

So while I will not go on because some people will get bent about it and I don't want to "hijack" the thread, I will say that the Military/Intelligence communities, as an offshoot of the global banking cartels (who have been extracting the wealth of nations for a very long time, and have been creating essentially slave classes of humans). In many ways, these are their foot soldiers and history itself bears this out, over time, you find out that it is really more about money, power, and control than it is anything else. So as we look at the nature of change, as it were, and asking "is this change organic, synthetic, or a combination of both", or "is this a good change or a bad change", or "what to these changes really mean ", and do what you can to understand what is really happening on this planet, a more comprehensive understanding of how changes are affected systemically by various factions throughout history helps instruct our vision of this world, of course. As always, there are many agendas being played out, and they are often disguised as other things.

And I suppose it is important to remember that there is much that is not revealed to the masses for very good reason, because some of what we are alluding to could not be possible if they did. It is knowable, but I also understand why most people are largely unaware of some of these dynamics here on Earth, within these walled-off systems of control.

So yeah...I will stop there before people start complaining about it, in addition to the fact that I am not here to convince anyone of anything. It's just that sometimes, I try to appeal to open minds to think things through for themselves, not tell anyone what to think or believe. That's our own responsibility as individuals, of course.

Enjoy your day, my friend.

 

[axe battler]

If you're going dahn the soup kitchen arnt you slightly wary that it will be 2% purity tho? Why would you trust em not to cut it?

Yeah you usually have to just find someone who looks like they definitely use hard drugs, and say you'll get them a bag/packet/rock for their trouble, and don't give them cash, until you see their dealer within sprinting distance, or even better if the dealer's not too paranoid, meet them and get their number for next time.

Heroin and coke/crack are easy as fuck to find if you move or delete/lose contacts.

 

[G_Chem]

I do feel darknet has helped me even though I don’t use it personally. Since it’s popularity has grown access to most drugs has gotten considerably better and I can only think it’s the reason why..

I just do perfectly fine as is, my way of purchasing gives me certain benefits folks who buy online don’t get. That said I do pay more for the “privilege” cuz in the end more risk means more reward. I’m someone that likes to have multiple connects that I can shop around with, and because of my background often people try to go above and beyond to impress me.

I agree though with the sentiment we should never get too comfortable. One day it could be gone in an instant, so always keep stock and plan for rainy days.

-GC

 

[Liverlee]

I have a question.

I used to use the dark net all the time until a couple of years ago, I got a little lax and ordered some mdma from the Netherlands. It was intercepted by customs and I got one of those letters in the post to let me know they had it and not do it again.

Question is is it safe to order again but from the uk, I’m still at the same address and all that.

 

[Conky]

If you browse darknet you might think "am a junkie whats the plus or minus i need my six" but if u do means ur also somehow an aware person and by this I mean financial, never go on hidden internet without a proper antivirus such as Bitdefender, Kaspersky, AhnLab

Those paid antivirus aren't any better than Defender

 

[Jabberwocky]

I've never understood the man being behind spreading LSD tho Shadow - what was the thinking behind it? How does the effect of LSD benefit Nixon? Everybody goes off dancing in the flowers rather than marching on the streets? Is that the idea?

listen to the last podcast on the left series on MKULTRA- there was literally no fucking logic to it. like they'd established it wasn't going to give the effects they needed and still kept trying and cos of no oversight no one could tell them to cut it out.

 

[blondin]

listen to the last podcast on the left series on MKULTRA- there was literally no fucking logic to it. like they'd established it wasn't going to give the effects they needed and still kept trying and cos of no oversight no one could tell them to cut it out.

.....And this was why Timothy Leary was recruited as a CIA asset and all the business at Laurel Canyon (now that is a rabbit hole worth going down to see the CIA plan to control and manipulate the hippy movement)

 

[ions]

This thread was set up by the feds to link darknet activity to you.

 

[andyturbo]

BTW, I'm pretty sure the DN was made by the CIA or something like that, surely they move (or now perfectly those who move) most of the hard drugs there, it's just unbelievable that something like that exists and most people don't do nothing. Those seizures are probably "for the gallery".
It's quite clear that the drug market moves much more money than before the darknet existed, because of the reasons you are posting: a lot of people that use it wouldn't be able to find a dealer, at least during certain moments/contexts.

This is a big big myth my friend. The darknet is just another name for TOR. The systems that routes your identity threw 6 random nodes around the world resulting in the original IP address to be impossible to back track and find. The TOR network was actually designed by the US navy during research into methods of securing communications.

 

[ions]

And it (TOR browser) was also meant to allow those in countries who don't have free speech or freedom to access the internet or some sites maybe. Arab nations I think. cultures of oppression. theocracies. So the user can remain anonymous and feel at ease that their police force won't track them down.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

TOR is NOT the dark net. TOR is one tool to access domains that lie outside the WWW (ie the DN) . The WWW was created with a certain schema that allows a limited number of addresses to be indexed and accessed mostly through DNS servers. Any address outside that schema is "invisble" to any web browser designed to work on the WWW. TOR allows addresses outside of that schema.

The dark net was used by all branches of the Military as well as many branches of federal administrations. I used ARCNET and the dark net while serving in the USAF performing R & D work. We did not use TOR but rather a specialized browser that allowed similar capabilities

BTW I don't protect myself on the DN because I'm afraid of government agencies. I do it because there are criminals and others that either want to create mischief (hacker Kiddies) or steal from anyone foolish enough to click on one of thier web sites on the DN.

 

[Neuroborean]

This is a big big myth my friend. The darknet is just another name for TOR. The systems that routes your identity threw 6 random nodes around the world resulting in the original IP address to be impossible to back track and find. The TOR network was actually designed by the US navy during research into methods of securing communications.

So you think the Navy invented something knowing that eventually could run out of their (Governmental) control?
I don't think that's likely at all. The word "impossible" regarding technology is difficult to think of, the Government pays the best hackers to be with them, instead of against them.

 

[andyturbo]

So you think the Navy invented something knowing that eventually could run out of their (Governmental) control?
I don't think that's likely at all. The word "impossible" regarding technology is difficult to think of, the Government pays the best hackers to be with them, instead of against them.

It was experimental and didn't end up being applied- thus making its way to the public sector. I am certain thats what happened btw not just assuming.

 

[andyturbo]

So you think the Navy invented something knowing that eventually could run out of their (Governmental) control?
I don't think that's likely at all. The word "impossible" regarding technology is difficult to think of, the Government pays the best hackers to be with them, instead of against them.

Without meaning to sound like a know it all.. trust me i know all about that.. not just from learnt knowledge but actual IRL experienced.

" The Government pays the best hackers to be with them, instead of against them."
That is absolutely correct. For decades have been. However this may surprise you and again i know this first hand
There is a small minority of those ^ that each have there own reasons/motives but work for the 'other' side while using there job and access as a tool.
One of the people I know who I would put in this category still enjoy there work and such and majority of the work is fine and what they want to do. However
when things come across that are often morally and completely illegal he absolutely hates that and passes on the information to a civilian activist/hacktivist collective where we have hundreds of thousands if not millions like minded people fighting against it.

 

[Ismene2]

I think if the wooden tops could access hundreds of "drug dealers and users" names and addresses and use the drug market as evidence they would all have been raided ten years ago.

Remember it took just a few months from american research chemical suppliers first being busted to raiding users in england. So the idea that the dibble has been sat on our info for ten years is bollocks. If they can raid they DO raid - Operation Ismene showed that for a fact. And that was piss-all - silly goombahs ordering .25mg of loony toad quack - not guys on the DM selling kilos of tragic magic.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

Without meaning to sound like a know it all.. trust me i know all about that.. not just from learnt knowledge but actual IRL experienced.

" The Government pays the best hackers to be with them, instead of against them."
That is absolutely correct. For decades have been. However this may surprise you and again i know this first hand
There is a small minority of those ^ that each have there own reasons/motives but work for the 'other' side while using there job and access as a tool.
One of the people I know who I would put in this category still enjoy there work and such and majority of the work is fine and what they want to do. However
when things come across that are often morally and completely illegal he absolutely hates that and passes on the information to a civilian activist/hacktivist collective where we have hundreds of thousands if not millions like minded people fighting against it.

I agree, Andy, but coo-coo-ca-choo.

 

[Neuroborean]

didn't end up being applied- thus making its way to the public sector. I am certain thats what happened btw not just assuming.

Just because of that is more obvious that it's likely a control tool and not the opposite.
How could they be so idiotic to let something that could work to favour "the people" giving them power and autonomy if they didn't have the tools to manage and control such scenario? Same with CERN and internet, look how it's developing, soon we'll surely need digital ID to get into the clear net.
Look at Bezos and Musk, both have family that were very deep into specific control grids like DARPA and the technocracy movement. You can think that is just "coincidence" but there's always too many coincidences everywhere, everytime. I think we are living the shift from (fake) democracy to technocracy/scientism and all that stuff is not coincidence but planned long time ago. Those guys controlling the social media, international shopping and who knows what else..

 

[Jabberwocky]

I think if the wooden tops could access hundreds of "drug dealers and users" names and addresses and use the drug market as evidence they would all have been raided ten years ago.

in a world with limitless resources i would agree, but as things stand we don't even have the space in police custody, let alone prison, to accommodate such people. they haven't quite got it through their thick heads that arresting users and low level dealers is useless but i think they know they couldn't send down every darknet user in the country. also tons of their mates are doing it and we can't be acknowledging the hypocrisy and uneven application of the law now can we?

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

Just because of that is more obvious that it's likely a control tool and not the opposite.
How could they be so idiotic to let something that cool work to favour "the people" giving them power and autonomy if they didn't have the tools to manage and control such scenario? Same with CERN and internet, look how it's developing, soon we'll surely need digital ID to get into the clear net.
Look at Bezos and Musk, both have family that are very deep into specific control grids like DARPA and the technocracy movement. You can think that is just "coincidence" but there's always too many coincidences everywhere, everytime. I think we are living the shift from (fake) democracy to technocracy/scientism and all that stuff is not coincidence but planned long time ago. Those guys controlling the social media, international shopping and who knows what else..

The dark net is a subset of the deep net.

The deep net is used for legitimate business (financial transactions, etc)

The dark net is used for, well we know what ...

It's not a special place, just a different one, less frequently used. The very same way that radio and TV channels are divided. It's the same medium, just different frequencies (addresses). The WWW is like broadcast TV (Made for General Consumption), but there are others that serve a purpose.

 

[Neuroborean]

The dark net is a subset of the deep net.

The deep net is used for legitimate business (financial transactions, etc)

The dark net is used for, well we know what ...

It's not a special place, just a different one, less frequently used. The very same way that radio and TV channels are divided. It's the same medium, just different frequencies (addresses). The WWW is like broadcast TV (Made for General Consumption), but there are others that serve a purpose.

Correct,
but we all know who the real Mafia is. Those operating with pedophilia and things like that are not "suckers", at least not those in the highest links of the network. Obviously the highest ones don't need something like Dark Net to operate, they would also have their own private, exterior, network. But surely a lot of them get money from the DN using similar networks that regular people use and buy from. Weapons, porn and drugs. The money flows to them.
Have you ever wonder who are the guys who run LL for example? and those guys are even "legal", someway. I don't think they are outsiders in anyway, they cannot be.