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Heroin Smoking heroin doesn't work?

F.U.B.A.R. said:
So that's a whole gramme on that small piece of foil? I must admit your technique is terrible 🤣

Plus that shit is dirty.

You need a larger piece of foil and it has to be smoothed out gently to remove all creases. But as I said before, no matter how much you fuck it up, if there was any heroin in there and you are inhaling it, you'd feel it.

I'm out of answers...
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I know I am fucking up real hard with technique and foil size etc but indeed I do inhale and exhale large amounts of smoke so yeah I have no clue either

Anyway thanks for your time!
 
As a comparison, with decent gear and good technique, a 0.1g bag can produce up to 40 x 6 inch runs leaving very little residue in its wake. I never got that good, my average was about 20 - but I was amazed at how far expert smokers could make a ÂŁ10 bag last.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
As a comparison, with decent gear and good technique, a 0.1g bag can produce up to 40 x 6 inch runs leaving very little residue in its wake. I never got that good, my average was about 20 - but I was amazed at how far expert smokers could make a ÂŁ10 bag last.
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Damn that’s crazy, a point would typically give me maybe 12” run possibly a little more but nowhere near that, what is the predominant cut in fentadope ?
 
Do you guys know if this heroin (from the looks of it) can be snorted? And do I need to add acid? I only have lemon available.

Last ditch attempt to see if it works
 
Oxys and fentadope aren't really a thing in the UK, but I'm going back a few years now so I've no idea of the current situation tbh
 
menidiatis said:
What would you suspect then that it is? Here on other threads I ve read #3 base is not water soluble. This is just too confusing
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I dunno unless I’m getting a acidified heroin not base, but I’m pretty sure most the tar in my are is made for smoking
 
Heroin base aka #3 is not water soluble, that's why an acid has to be added to turn it into a water soluble salt form for injection (acid + base = salt + water)

However, #3 can be snorted without acidifying first, its just not particularly efficient this way. But again, with no tolerance it 'should' work.

Obviously, this all assumes there is any heroin in this stuff - which from what I've heard so far seems highly doubtful...
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Heroin base aka #3 is not water soluble, that's why an acid has to be added to turn it into a water soluble salt form for injection (acid + base = salt + water)

However, #3 can be snorted without acidifying first, its just not particularly efficient this way. But again, with no tolerance it 'should' work.
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Interesting, cause almost everyone I know who uses smokes in exception of a couple people, would it be stronger for smoking in freebase form ?
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
No matter how poor your technique, if you have no tolerance you should still get wasted on a very small amount. No way could you smoke 5g and not feel anything.

Have a word with your dealer.

Then twat the cunt...
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By not feel anything, you mean, feel anything right? Like, be alive in order to do so lol.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Heroin base aka #3 is not water soluble, that's why an acid has to be added to turn it into a water soluble salt form for injection (acid + base = salt + water)

However, #3 can be snorted without acidifying first, its just not particularly efficient this way. But again, with no tolerance it 'should' work.

Obviously, this all assumes there is any heroin in this stuff - which from what I've heard so far seems highly doubtful...
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Thanks friend, I guess I am done with heroin in Greece at this point. I ll be back in NL in few days and will order from dark web and come back to report if there is difference
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Heroin base aka #3 is not water soluble, that's why an acid has to be added to turn it into a water soluble salt form for injection (acid + base = salt + water)

However, #3 can be snorted without acidifying first, its just not particularly efficient this way. But again, with no tolerance it 'should' work.

Obviously, this all assumes there is any heroin in this stuff - which from what I've heard so far seems highly doubtful...
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Actually one last q if you don't mind if I want to plug this, should I follow the normal process for IV?

Meaning should I boil with acid and then draw it in the syringe through microfilter?
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
So that's a whole gramme on that small piece of foil? I must admit your technique is terrible 🤣
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Too funny.

I’ve seen some judgmental and condescending posts here but that takes the cake! Tell it like it is why don’t you! :ROFLMAO:

For the record: just because I’m not a user or addict doesn’t mean I don’t get curious. Remember: I’m the only human testing and experimentation advocate around here! :ROFLMAO:

Point being and to the OP:

I can tell you from my first, last, and only attempt ever at smoking something off foil, and without having to look up any instructions either, if there was something in there, particularly Fentanyl (OF COURSE I’d go for broke from the get go), you’d know about it. I thought it wasn’t working. No smoke. Fuck all. Bearing in mind I’m the Cocaine and Crack dude (in a previous life) so I’m used to seeing smoke. I thought fuck this for a joke. And then the “cold mistress” (as somebody so aptly called Fentanyl around here the other day) said “HELLO! ❤️! I'M HERE! ❤️” as I was about to stand up and toss my little foil experiment! :ROFLMAO: Fortunately not my thing though so that was the end of that (well: there's been one or two other human tests and experiments done since but not applicable here).

You've been through 5g of whatever and felt nothing. All I'm saying is that a) it's not that difficult (seems to me) and b) I can assure you that if there was Fentanyl in there you'd know about it. But seems to me that unless you're burning the shit out of whatever that is: it's impossible to not feel SOMETHING or miss THAT badly (matter of fact I'd even go so far as to say that even IF you're burning the shit out of a whole 5g of whatever that is you'd STILL feel SOMETHING). So there's either fuck all of anything in there or you're facing the wrong way while heating! :ROFLMAO: Concentrate dude! Concentrate! :ROFLMAO:
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Interesting, cause almost everyone I know who uses smokes in exception of a couple people, would it be stronger for smoking in freebase form ?
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Are you talking black tar heroin? Although I have no experience with that stuff I understand that it is both smokable and water soluble which is a little strange. However, even #4 heroin can be made smokable with the addition of certain cutting agents such as caffeine. This mixture lowers the vaporisation temperature allowing the hydrochloride salt to be smoked.
 
dalpat077 said:
Too funny.

I’ve seen some judgmental and condescending posts here but that takes the cake! Tell it like it is why don’t you! :ROFLMAO:

For the record: just because I’m not a user or addict doesn’t mean I don’t get curious. Remember: I’m the only human testing and experimentation advocate around here! :ROFLMAO:

Point being and to the OP:

I can tell you from my first, last, and only attempt ever at smoking something off foil, and without having to look up any instructions either, if there was something in there, particularly Fentanyl (OF COURSE I’d go for broke from the get go), you’d know about it. I thought it wasn’t working. No smoke. Fuck all. Bearing in mind I’m the Cocaine and Crack dude (in a previous life) so I’m used to seeing smoke. I thought fuck this for a joke. And then the “cold mistress” (as somebody so aptly called Fentanyl around here the other day) said “HELLO! ❤️! I'M HERE! ❤️” as I was about to stand up and toss my little foil experiment! :ROFLMAO: Fortunately not my thing though so that was the end of that (well: there's been one or two other human tests and experiments done since but not applicable here).

You've been through 5g of whatever and felt nothing. All I'm saying is that a) it's not that difficult (seems to me) and b) I can assure you that if there was Fentanyl in there you'd know about it. But seems to me that unless you're burning the shit out of whatever that is: it's impossible to not feel SOMETHING or miss THAT badly (matter of fact I'd even go so far as to say that even IF you're burning the shit out of a whole 5g of whatever that is you'd STILL feel SOMETHING). So there's either fuck all of anything in there or you're facing the wrong way while heating! :ROFLMAO: Concentrate dude! Concentrate! :ROFLMAO:
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I understood literally nothing of what you said but whatever, I guess you had your laugh so good for you
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Are you talking black tar heroin? Although I have no experience with that stuff I understand that it is both smokable and water soluble which is a little strange. However, even #4 heroin can be made smokable with the addition of certain cutting agents such as caffeine. This mixture lowers the vaporisation temperature allowing the hydrochloride salt to be smoked.
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Yes black tar, however I can get brown powder too…Hmm, I just always assumed it was base cause everyone smoked it, learn something new everyday
 
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