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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

^^ Nice to have a partner who doesn't like drugs as much as you, isn't it? My girl takes psychedelics very rarely, but we do them together when she does want to. So far we've taken mushrooms, and shortly we'll be taking MDMA, and then LSD. It's not that I don't still do them without her, she knows I do, I tell her about my experiences sometimes too. But all the time I spend with her is time I don't feel compelled to use drugs. It's been a good thing to balance me out. :)

I should be getting a stash of this soon. I've taken it once at 300ug, wrote a TR. It was a great experience but my lysergamide tolerance was still lowering then, I bet these days 150ug would be just as strong. I'd love to experiment with it more, I found it to be a top-notch trip, different enough from LSD to be a totally different drug. Very unique and wonderful. It reminded me of mescaline in many ways.
 
^^ Nice to have a partner who doesn't like drugs as much as you, isn't it? My girl takes psychedelics very rarely, but we do them together when she does want to. So far we've taken mushrooms, and shortly we'll be taking MDMA, and then LSD. It's not that I don't still do them without her, she knows I do, I tell her about my experiences sometimes too. But all the time I spend with her is time I don't feel compelled to use drugs. It's been a good thing to balance me out. :)
Oh how it is. I did very well to marry her. Who knows if I'd even be alive now if my unhealthy patterns of use had continued. It's a miracle as it is. Best thing is probably that I can only dose dissociatives whenever she is away for at least a few days. We did full doses of 2-Oxo-PCE three times towards the tail end of MDMA experiences, but she's just not into it and absolutely hates to see me on them. She doesn't really condone my using needles either, but she is okay with it if I only do it from time to time. So yeah, a good thing indeed! Especially since I was at a point where I was convinced I wouldn't ever find anyone to love. She's actually the first one I've ever told that I love her, along with my daughter (this goes both ways). Took me 32 years.

*high five* and hooray for love!
 
Nice man, yeah high five right back. I'm not married to my girl, I'm not sure I want to be married again and she's not sure she ever wants to be, so it's good, but we're very serious and I can't see why we'd ever break up. We don't live together so there are still plenty of opportunities for me to pull some shenanigans, but it builds in lots of days where I'm going to just be mostly sober. Part of me is interested in experiencing being with someone who is as into drugs as me, but I think we'd just enable each other to do them too much.
 
We are totally hijacking this thread one page after I complained there wasn't enough useful information in it. :D

And yeah, "one is enough" is what I always said. Never had a partner who was into drugs at all, not even pot, so this is kind of a dream come true - her indulging regularly, but not nearly as often as I used to. We are two lucky motherfuckers. (edit. You and me, but also my beloved wife and I).

*Says some really useful things about ETH-LAD* and makes sure to not go OT again.
 
ETH-LAD is built upon the souls of the lucky such as us. ;)

Furthermore, I saw in another thread today (maybe this one but I didn't see it scrolling up briefly) that the other lab making these lysergamides is considering synthing ETH-LAD if there is demand enough (which there certainly will be, I would think). Which is exciting that someone else is considering making more of these gems. I was sad that they stopped with ETH-LAD and AL-LAD, even though I am shortly going to obtain a stash of each. I am also excited that maybe - just maybe - someone will make PRO-LAD.
 
Giving this a run tonight, gonna go 10mg 3-meo-pcp + 100ug eth-lad about 45 mins later, should be a good night. Will report back Sunday night.
 
Hey crook and zorkoth, so jealous of you guys.
Sorry to hijack thread but I married my partner last August, we have done a few different drugs together, amphetamine, LSD, LSA, heaps of weed, gave her 30mg of mxe once and 1 hour later she was asking for more ( mxe, does anyone not love it?), heaps of weed. But she not into drugs anymore, she goes to her folks place a couple nights a week, pretty much to leave me alone so I can get high. Wish she would do psychedelics every now and then with me cause we tripped well together
 
Wooo! Rejoice! Maybe we'll be so lucky to see PRO-LAD from them too some day.
I wouldn't get my hopes up too much, lysergamide chemistry at R6 (al, eth, pro, ... lads) is weird and the yields of any products made suck while the chemistry at R1 (ald-52, 1p-lsd, .. ) is nice. Economically it just makes more sense to mess with R1 subs than R6 despite the fact that all publicly released R6 subs so far have been unique (eth-lad, al-lad) while the R1 subs mostly (well weird things can happen so even R1 sub can be magically different) just give you something close to lsd.

And messing with other parts of the molecule isn't really productive either.
 
Hey crook and zorkoth, so jealous of you guys.
Sorry to hijack thread but I married my partner last August, we have done a few different drugs together, amphetamine, LSD, LSA, heaps of weed, gave her 30mg of mxe once and 1 hour later she was asking for more ( mxe, does anyone not love it?), heaps of weed. But she not into drugs anymore, she goes to her folks place a couple nights a week, pretty much to leave me alone so I can get high. Wish she would do psychedelics every now and then with me cause we tripped well together
I could see that coming my way, too, some day.
 
I recently took a 75µg dose of ETH-LAD and it really re-affirmed it as a special gem to me.

It's hard to compare it's potency at this dosage, because the set+setting was rather unique, but I'll say it's a very nice dosage. I'd probably rate it's magnitude as something like 100-125µg of AL-LAD, or I'm guessing about 75µg or possibly less of LSD.

It seems like ETH-LAD scales up in intensity more steeply than LSD. For example, when I took 4x this amount (300µg of ETH-LAD), it yielded a completely bonkers trip to nonsense-land and back. Whereas, when I had a sheet of acid with tabs that were nice in single doses, it was pretty smooth to go up to 4 tabs, still pretty easy to navigate reality.

At double this amount (150µg ETH-LAD), it was a good solid trip. If I were to double the amount of LSD that would have yielded a similar trip to this 75µg ETH-LAD, it would be lighter than doubling the ETH-LAD. <- sorry that's hard to make sense of, I hope you know what I mean.

Anyways, at 75µg it was a truly joyful beautiful experience. Very much grounded in reality, a little bit of subtle patterning but more enhancement of sonic and visual beauty and joy to be alive on this amazing planet.

I was surprised how long it lasted. My model of it was that it lasts a bit shorter than LSD, but this time it seemed like it lasted longer, so I don't know what to think anymore. Again, my setting was unique and involved some heavy physical activity, so that might have stretched the whole thing out (and lowered the intensity of the peak, which would change some of my observations above).
 
So, I tried this one on Saturday.

Since my wife has never done LSD, but only 2C-E and DMT (no breakthrough), I decided we should take what were supposed to be 100ug each. I have my doubts that these were accurately dosed though. They may have been laid into water instead of having the substance dropped on each blotter, but that is pure speculation!

I had first alerts after 30mins and got to see some nice visuals for 2-3 hours, was quite humorous, but not nearly as much as LSD. Nothing to write home about. No mindfuck whatsoever. I still liked it a lot though.

Now my wife had first alerts after closer to one hour, but she told me the painters did a lousy job with the door after 40 minutes. :D Very rapidly the effects grew on her. At first she loved it, but 15min after feeling the drug begin to take action she accused me of "messing with the light". Apparently her entire field of vision kept changing colors, reminding her of old Italian horror movies.

When she repeatedly told me to please not move so fasst, it was apparent that it isn't going well. It became too much for her to handle. The OEVs were apparently so brutally intense that she could not make out my face anymore. She reportedly could not feel her body, claimed her heart is racing, she is sweating and last but not least "stopped breathing". In reality she was fine, no sweat, pulse around 120 and most importantly her respiratory rate was around 25 breaths/min. Astonishingly she was perfectly fine to communicate and other than her suspicion that I was messing with the light there seemed to have been no mindfuck whatsoever.

So I took her into my arms, held her head and assured that everything is fine and what she is experiencing is very common. The effects would soon settle and she is going to love it. I also offered her to abort the trip with trazodone twice, which did a lot for her to feel better. I have personally never aborted a trip (after god knows how many hundreds of trips), but was still quite impressed that she wanted to pull through with it!

It took roughly 30 minutes for her to be completely overwhelmed. Two short-lived panic attacks occurred during that time which she had never experienced before, but verbally identified as such.

After that she was stunned by the beauty of the world and said 2C-E didn't do shit compared to this. Her tummy was giving her quite a bit of problems and she spent about half the plateau on the shitter, just like I did on my first acid trip. When the first wave of gastrointestinal distress dissipated she ate a shit ton of strawberries which triggered another wave.

All in all it was a lovely experience for both her and me. She absolutely loved the plateau, except for the gastrointestinal issues.

Four hours after taking the ETH-LAD we took 80mg MDMA (quantified by lab) followed by another 40mg 45min later, in fear it might become too much for her again. Nothing to write home about for neither of us. Kissing and sex were really intense, but there weren't any overwhelming feelings of euphoria.

Eight hours after taking the ETH-LAD she went to sleep, but I had to stay up for another 3 hours after which I could fall asleep thanks to two glasses of wine and a whole lot of joints.

Rough timeframe for us:
Onset 30-60min
Plateau 2-3h
Comedown: 3-4h

Not as long as I had expected, but that was a good thing since we had a lot of things on our plate for Sunday.
 
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Nice, glad you're able to do psychedelics with your wife and that she had a good time in the end. :) My girl has done mushrooms with me once, which was cool but she never really blasted off at all (nor did I). We are going to do MDMA together soon to help her deal with some childhood PTSD (hopefully). She also wants to try LSD with me sometime.
 
Nice, glad you're able to do psychedelics with your wife and that she had a good time in the end. :) My girl has done mushrooms with me once, which was cool but she never really blasted off at all (nor did I). We are going to do MDMA together soon to help her deal with some childhood PTSD (hopefully). She also wants to try LSD with me sometime.
The good shit. We've grown to love MDMA and would probably not have worked the many fundamental problems out that stood between us and a working relationship during the first year. However we've done it too often and probably dosed too high as well, so the effects are not nearly as intense as they were 2 years ago. I also mainlined it above 100mg per dose quite a few times and we all know that doesn't help reduce the tolerance. :D

I never expected she'd be hit that hard. I really have my doubts there were only 100ug on that blotter. I remember saying "two blotters wouldn't have been perfect" while she was coming up. :D
 
Has she taken lysergamides before? A friend of mine will take a half hit of ALD-52 or even AL-LAD and be tripping hard, some people are really sensitive. He also takes no more than 1mg of DOC, or like 8-10mg of a 4-sub-tryptamine, and trips at least as hard as me when I take a lot more than that.
 
Has she taken lysergamides before? A friend of mine will take a half hit of ALD-52 or even AL-LAD and be tripping hard, some people are really sensitive. He also takes no more than 1mg of DOC, or like 8-10mg of a 4-sub-tryptamine, and trips at least as hard as me when I take a lot more than that.
Nope she has not. She reacted as expected when ingesting 2C-E which has happened 4 times so far.

100ug - if that's really all that was on there - could potentially cause a very intense experience. If he is sensitive he may want to try 75ug instead, but then the experience could just as well fall behind his expectations if he reacts like I reacted to 100ug. I used to say "The only thing you can do wrong when first dosing psychedelics is taking too little." This isn't really harm reduction in the strictest sense I suppose, ;) but I was very happy I had taken 5 susgar cubes when I first used acid.
 
3-meo-pcp must have raped my tripping receptors because I dosed 100ug about 90 mins after doing 15mg 3-meo-pcp (5mg every 30 mins, everyone said they have good synergy) and was tripping but effects were only just above a very light Trip. Will have to do a tolerance reset break before trying again, no need to waste these gems.

I am usually on the middle ground for dosing lysergamides too, last trip 1 and a half, 125ug 1p-lsd blotters had me pretty damm high.
 
Have you combined a psychedelic with 3-MeO-PCP before? I ask because the first few times I tried, I had the same reaction, and then all of a sudden, it started being GREAT to combine with psychs, especially lysergamides. Now, a half hit of ALD-52 (~62.5ug) on top of a light to moderate dose of 3-MeO-PCP will make it at least as strong as a whole hit... a whole hit will rock my world. Seems to greatly potentiate it, but the first few times I tried, it seemed like it made it weaker.

Also dissociatives shouldn't mess with your ability to trip, they affect different receptors.
 
Yeah 3-meo-pcp had crazy synergy when I used it in tandem with tryptamines (4-ho-met or 1p-lsd). Amazing stuff! :)
 
I might have been just to high to feel the eth-lad properly, I totally get that it takes a few times to get combos right. Maybe i had to much 3-meo-pcp. How about a dose time, I'm going to go for 5mg 3-meo-pcp orally, wait one hour than dose the eth-lad next time.
 
Wait, is this seriously going to stop being produced? Im having one of my richest psychedelic experiences on just 100 ug of this material. I wanna preserve the shit out of this for all of eternity!!
 
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