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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

Yes the safety profile should be approximately the same, and as Xorkoth noted the effects are different from LSD. I meant "heart-centered" in a metaphysical sense - to me (and some other people have noticed this too) the ETH-LAD trip seems to be less intellectual/head and more heart/love, when compared to LSD.
 
Ok. I see now
Anyway i'll be reporting back. Thanks for your advices.
 
Xorkoth said:
1p and ALD-52 are basicallt the same as LSD, because they turn into LSD in the body. But ETH-LAD and AL-LAD are not the same, they do not turn into LSD, they're just closely structurally related. They have similar effects, but different receptor binding profiles. Like how all the 2C-Xs are similar in ways, but also unique drugs.
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I'm not an expert and never have lsd. but from my own experience i was able to identifie ald and 1p in a blind test 2 times ( let alone ethlad it is very easy to reconize it). I think those sunstances are potents even before they get metabolized into lsd.
 
I fully concur that they could be... I know in the case of 4-HO-DMT and 4-AcO-DMT, I notice dramatic differences, leading me to believe that 4-AcO-DMT is active on its own and that some people convert it faster than others to 4-HO-DMT so some experience effects that are a lot closer to 4-HO-DMT.
 
Sounds bad ass....the reinvestigating patterns line. Curious, what about smoking made you wanna quit? You ever try vaping (ie not ecigs....I mean a proper subohm or mod where it tastes awesome and gets you nicotined up)?

Hmmm, good to know I got a few months to invest in Dely's siblings.

What about the brother with a different father? LSZ? Good one? I think I have one of those somewhere but never tried it.


Xorkoth said:
My favorite way is to take 2-3mg bumps throughout the day and really get into that 3-MeO sparkling/hypomanic state as well as you can. THEN take the LSD, and the synergy is through the roof. It's like the 3-MeO allows the LSD to fully affect the mind, for much stronger and more profound/personal effects. The combo, when taken thsi way, really brings out the best in both drugs. Almost every time I do this, even with a half hit of ALD-52 (~62.5ug) (but especially with a whole 125ug), I end up invariably having intense, profound, meaningful trips that cause me to re-investigate my behaviors or patterns. I quit cigarettes on one such trip, didn;t use any tobacco products for week... eventually that resolve ran out and I started at it again, unfortunately, but the epiphany and resulting motivation/action were real, and powerful.

My most psychedelic LSD trip to date is when I toom 3-MeO and then a full 125ug of ALD-52. I was way too high for situation (a great professional band recording in our studio. Everyone was cool but one dude's dad was there and his 16 year old sister, it was freaking me. I ended up hiding in the control room praying to any deity that would hear me to prevent strangers from coming in. I was watching the screen at the waveforms of the tracks and they were disconnecting from their fixed positions and dancing dramatically all over.. some of the strongest visuals I'v ever gotten from acid. After they left, my intense anxiety faded and I had such a wonderful and profound experience listening back to their tracks. It's metal band Kairos... they are so fucking good. I had a moment where I finally understood metal, and I broke through to appreciating metal music. It was such a full-on psychological trip, up there in my top 10 for sure.



Yeah they determined that the 6-sub lysergamides aren;t worth the cost to synth when ALD-52 and 1p_LSD have far greater yields, so even though demand is high, they stopped. So what's out there is all that's left. They suspect the stock will last through most of the rest of the year. But I wanna jump. I want to get at least 50 ETH-LAD and AL-LAD, because I love them both as unique drugs as compared to LSD.
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Xorkoth said:
I fully concur that they could be... I know in the case of 4-HO-DMT and 4-AcO-DMT, I notice dramatic differences, leading me to believe that 4-AcO-DMT is active on its own and that some people convert it faster than others to 4-HO-DMT so some experience effects that are a lot closer to 4-HO-DMT.
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My own experiences have convinced me of the same, especially such trials that bypassed presystemic metabolism. I like to describe the effects of 4-ACO-DMT (pre-conversion) as reptilian. I become especially sensitive to motion, and experience a suppression of my ego while my id is boosted. If that makes any sense.
 
Just A Guy, what do you mean by your ID is boosted?
I can definitely relate to the feelings of motion sensitivity and extreme ego suppression during the first half of a 4-AcO-DMT trip, the second half feeling more like magic mushrooms ime.
Ego suppression/dissolution with 4-AcO-DMT always seems much easier to access compared to most other psychedelics.

Does anybody know when ETH-LAD is actually supposed to stop being synthesized & out of production this year?
 
It's already out of production. It will be gone when the current batch sells out.
 
sean107 said:
Does anybody know when ETH-LAD is actually supposed to stop being synthesized & out of production this year?
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Last I heard it is not being synthesized at all anymore, but there should be enough to last until at least the end of this year. Stock up while you still can! I just got ten hits and plan on getting at least 40 more. I actually have yet to try ETH-LAD ;) I'm waiting for the right time
 
Hi
just a mini TR about my experience of candyflipping eth-lad / mdma
doses:
125 µg eth-lad at 4pm
100 mg mdma at 7pm
prior to dosing: a big meal at 3pm.
the trip beggin with a lot of anxiety, my set and setting wasn't perfect cause i was bored by some peoples who i don't know very well who come to see my trip sitter.
then come the effect of mdma ! The anxiety disappeared to give way to an unequaled well-being, i was really happy and i noticed that even if the visual are way stronger, mdma gaves me a sort of sobriety, I no longer had the characteristic confusion of lysergamides, just awesome visuals, and happyness. it was perfect !
i've also to say that i'm glad i have reduced my doses. i normally doses eth-lad at 150-200 µg and my standard dose of mdma is 175 mg.
 
fuck, I need to restock on that eth-lad... I still have got 20 hits of it, plus 25 of al-lad, a tenstrip of ald-52 and 200 hits of LSD so I was putting my money into dissos those last months. I've got enought of them for years as well thought... I need help, can't stop buying drugs I won't have time to take xD
 
MSK said:
...I need help, can't stop buying drugs I won't have time to take xD
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You're not the only one!... I think there are many of us "collectors" here :D

I'm wishing for more free time and quicker tolerance reversal in between trips nowadays than for more substances ;)
 
@ MSK your blue friends might be able to help you blott up any excess loose blotters
 
MSK said:
fuck, I need to restock on that eth-lad... I still have got 20 hits of it, plus 25 of al-lad, a tenstrip of ald-52 and 200 hits of LSD so I was putting my money into dissos those last months. I've got enought of them for years as well thought... I need help, can't stop buying drugs I won't have time to take xD
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Yo i wanna party en espana whats up ;-)
 
So basically guys ETH LAD was insane. I understand what they mean by intense now. The most extreme auditory hallucinations I have experienced. I heard "wa-wa's" and "flanging" sounds... What I have noticed with most analogs is the lucidity. I was mostly clear headed and could easily evacuate the house if something happened, however the sheer intensity and overwhelming sensations in the chest, and slight panic was present for a little while.. I also noted extremely fast comeup- 10 minutes was obvious I was going to be high as fuck. The effects for me were very physical, and lacked headspace. At the tail end of the trip it had some humor to it.

And at about 4 hours in, it subsided, and i watched porn for about a hour and got off numerous times. I know, i have absolutely no idea. I am glad I tried it, but it shared very little. The duration was about 12 hours until I could sleep. Thank you so much bluelight.
 
Hello friends at Bluelight. I am one of the operators at PsychonautWiki. I have recently completed the latest draft of our ETH-LAD page. I would sincerely appreciate any comments, feedback, or anything I might have missed out on. Please let me know what you think so I can improve on it on the future, thank you :)

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/ETH-LAD

Code: 
[B]ETH-LAD Editor's Release Notes (Version 2.0)[/B]

- Showcases our new developing style guidelines for substance page introductions (subclass: research chemical/lysergamide)

- Modified and ported in some information on substance combinations (general piece of advice from me: Just don't :P)

- After much deliberation and discussion with the PsychonautWiki admins, I have decided to include a non-dissociative compound as a member of our list of substances that display our so-called "[URL="https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Disconnective_effects)"]"Disconnective effects"[/URL]". 
Note that this inclusion is very much experimental and its inclusion will depend on input from the community as to whether it is a reasonable addition. 
If it is agreed to be reasonable, they will be considered as possible additions to other "dissociating psychedelics" such as [[2C-P]], [[DET]] and [[DPT]] at high to heavy doses.

- Converted "Spiritual effects" -> "Transpersonal effects", with a new preamble, compliments of Yours Truly :)

- Check out our newly introduced Literature section at the bottom of the page!

- Implemented "Combinational effects" subsection under "Subjective effects"

- Implemented "Dangerous combinations" subsection under "Toxicity and Harm Potential"

- I plan to expand the "Pharmacology" sections soon. If anyone would like to help out please don't hesitate to get in touch!

Of course, all feedback, comments, concern, criticisms, corrections, and suggestions are welcome. Thank you for taking the time to read this. I hope you find it worth your while.

Cheers,
Claire
 
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