Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

[iRavage]

damn I just put my order through and didn't go for the ho-pce due to the stimulant properties, what if it's the next MXE? :D imma ask if they could hook me up anyways

is there any way to find out what your disso tolerance is at? I mean I did lotsa K to the point where 200mg wouldn't hole me, idk about the purity though... I should have felt something with the
27mg opce+dck though, right? it was both nasally, hopefully my tolerance isn't fucked up in the arse

//edit: wouldn't the new compound feel somewhat like MXE? since it affects the mu opioid receptor?

 

[yepyepwoah]

if you had 60% pure K a 200mg line would only be 120mg of actual K. So if you think your shit is cut.....

I just sniffed 35mg DCK about 2 hours ago. Feel less than the 25 oral I took before that. I've been through multiple G's of it, I know sniffing it sucks but still do it on occasion becuase I'm an idiot.

I remember O pce being about the same. Sniffing it was a waste and a shitty high. Oral etc is where it's at. You might feel more from an oral dose of 15mg than you did snorting the 27mg.

 

[Nitemares M3MORI3S]

... Sniffing it was a waste and a shitty high. Oral etc is where it's at. You might feel more from an oral dose of 15mg than you did snorting the 27mg.

Thx for the info, because normally it is the other way round.
Deschloroketamin was a little bit more effective when i sniffed it than with oral application.

 

[MSK]

I snorted like 100mg of 2-oxo-pcm with little effects yesterday, while 50mg oral does the job.

With 2-oxo-pce snorting seems a waste as well. With 3-meo-pcp it worths to snort on some situations, but the dose needed is higher as well.

 

[Xorkoth]

I like all dissos except ketamine that I've tried better orally, and I also find them more potent orally. The only one I take nasally is 3-MeO-PCP, usually, because I don't like to get dissociated on it, I like it for its stimulating properties which are better snorted. But I agree it's more potent orally.

 

[MSK]

I like all dissos except ketamine that I've tried better orally, and I also find them more potent orally. The only one I take nasally is 3-MeO-PCP, usually, because I don't like to get dissociated on it, I like it for its stimulating properties which are better snorted. But I agree it's more potent orally.

That's the point, I tend to snort 3-meo only if I want to use it as a stimulant (better than any real stimulant BTW), if I'm socializing with other people taking the substance snorted as well, if I need to do work the next day and should sleep earlier, or if I want a lighter and shorter experience. 3-meo really worths and shines a lot in those situations.

But with all the other ones (Except ketamine) oral seems the way to go, snorting is just a mediocre less potent experience.

What makes me wonder.... Why the fuck ketamine seems to be the only arylcyclohexamine that is more potent snorted than oral?

 

[varg]

I love this stuff! Yesterday I started with 16mg, added 5mg at +1:00 and added 10mg DCK and vaped some weed for some sedation at +2:00. Beautiful dissociation, adding some nitrous made me travelling through the multiverses. Near hole territory. Music was awesome, Dark Side Of The Moon by Pink Floyd was incledibly good to listen to. My cats got some kind of contact high during the experience, they made me laugh multiple times during the experience and cuddling was super smooth.

 

[crOOk]

But with all the other ones (Except ketamine) oral seems the way to go, snorting is just a mediocre less potent experience.

No way. Route of administration always has an influence on the qualitative effects of a dissociative experience. IV, IM, inhaled (in the case of PCP) is usually my preferred ROA.

 

[MSK]

No way. Route of administration always has an influence on the qualitative effects of a dissociative experience. IV, IM, inhaled (in the case of PCP) is usually my preferred ROA.

I couldn't try that one jet, IV/IM will obviously be the most potent route. But snorting 2-oxo-pce/2-oxo-pcm doesn't work very well for me, lackluster experiences vs oral route. Of course every body is different and that just could be true for me.

 

[DroneLore]

I have a question for the people who have accidentally ingested more 2-OxO-PCE than they meant to. During my heady days of MXE use, sometimes I would wind up utterly confused. This tended to happen towards the end of sessions after multiple redoses. The most particular time I remember, I was chilling in *MY* apartment, with a lot of close friends. And I didn't know where I was, or who anyone was. I was looking at these people I knew very well and all I could do was say, "who ARE you?" over and over. Is that kind of like what happens when 2-oxo-pce gets "beastly"?

 

[DroneLore]

The things I've found to help were Gabapentin(Muscle and Heart Stim)+Klonipin(Mental Stim) or Mirtazapine (Both). I smoke weed the entire comedown. Not saying these are safe, just what worked for me.

Just putting this out there as HR for anyone who may not be aware: gabapentin significantly potentiates benzos.

 

[MSK]

I have a question for the people who have accidentally ingested more 2-OxO-PCE than they meant to. During my heady days of MXE use, sometimes I would wind up utterly confused. This tended to happen towards the end of sessions after multiple redoses. The most particular time I remember, I was chilling in *MY* apartment, with a lot of close friends. And I didn't know where I was, or who anyone was. I was looking at these people I knew very well and all I could do was say, "who ARE you?" over and over. Is that kind of like what happens when 2-oxo-pce gets "beastly"?

The experience of a high dose of 2-oxo-pce can be like that. I woke up from the hole very confused a lot of times from this substance, without recognizing my own room or beeing able to recognize who I am. I always trip alone, but if any friend or my flatmate were at that time with me, I wouldn't recognize them at all.

I'm looking forward to trying this in combination with a lysergamide this Monday, any tips arround? I usually combine it with a tryptamine, but can't remember if I tried the combo with acid. I have got LSD, ALD-52, ETH-LAD and AL-LAD. I think I'm going to do it with 300ug ETH-LAD and taking 30mg of 2-OxO-PCE 3h into the lysergic trip, and maybe some 2-OxO-PCM lines and weed joints, and I'm going for a whole month drugs break after that, I was taking dissos and psychedelics very frequently this month. Wish me luck!

 

[Jabberwocky]

I notice a lot of people take dissos after taking a psychedelic. I've always done it the other way around. First load up on disso, let it hit and peak then take the psychedelics. Hits pretty hard this way IME, perhaps a bit unpredictably so. Curious if anyone has an opinion on which order is preferable for those who have tried it both ways [i.e disso then psyche or psyche then disso]. More of a general question, haven't tried O-PCE. And yes, good luck MSK!

 

[StMorningGlory]

Little warning 150mcg ETH-LAD and 150mcg AL-LAD taken 2 hours before 30mg O-PCE resulted in a 4 hour vomit fest. I usually love the ALD-52 and O-PCE combined but these ones don't seem to play as well together.

 

[CosmicKoala]

Question for you all: how is O-PCE when plugged? I may have already asked this in this thread but i dont remember. anyways is it as good as it is with mxe? or is oral dosing better? gonna have some soon!!

 

[Asante]

O-PCE is quite good plugged, I usually plug 15-20mg doses, 20 may be much, and a grand total of 250mg over 24 hours or so. I only take it plugged because it works so well. Its a reasonable substitute for MXE.

 

[MSK]

I notice a lot of people take dissos after taking a psychedelic. I've always done it the other way around. First load up on disso, let it hit and peak then take the psychedelics. Hits pretty hard this way IME, perhaps a bit unpredictably so. Curious if anyone has an opinion on which order is preferable for those who have tried it both ways [i.e disso then psyche or psyche then disso]. More of a general question, haven't tried O-PCE. And yes, good luck MSK!

I'm finally taking your advice just for the sake of changing my habits. Took 35mg 2-OxO-PCE an hour ago and dropped 300ug AL-LAD just now. Will update and the end of the day with conclusions on this matter, as I have different patterns of taking dissos and psycedelics I want to share, but I'm a bit dissociated right now for keep typing. See you in a few hours! :D

 

[Solipsis]

Just so that people can nuance copying habits like yours, what do you think makes you able to keep taking dosages of drugs like that and remaining functional (bearing in mind your regimen on a normal day)?

And I do truly mean in a very neutral way to share more about our different patterns and abilities to tolerate our habits.

This instead of having to wait for everyone with their habits to escalate into problems - or not at all.
It's helpful for people to have more insight on what can work and what just does not work - and why! :D

I found O-PCM to be very burdening on a very long tail-end and others have said the same thing. O-PCE doesn't seem to be too different. So how can you still go about your business, combined with psychedelics and/or weed or G etc when it is not even weekend? How active are your business then - I have heard of just a regular job with enough duties.

Again, not judging, it is just good for others who might take this as an example to realize what makes this work or what makes it exceptional. Cheers.

 

[StMorningGlory]

I actually find O-PCE to be functional under 10mg or after 5 hours below 35mg.

I find all of these dissociative drugs to be very useful for post-trip pain relief. I have used 8mg for helping me at work as I have to walk about 12miles for my job everyday.

 

[MSK]

Just so that people can nuance copying habits like yours, what do you think makes you able to keep taking dosages of drugs like that and remaining functional (bearing in mind your regimen on a normal day)?

And I do truly mean in a very neutral way to share more about our different patterns and abilities to tolerate our habits.

This instead of having to wait for everyone with their habits to escalate into problems - or not at all.
It's helpful for people to have more insight on what can work and what just does not work - and why! :D

I found O-PCM to be very burdening on a very long tail-end and others have said the same thing. O-PCE doesn't seem to be too different. So how can you still go about your business, combined with psychedelics and/or weed or G etc when it is not even weekend? How active are your business then - I have heard of just a regular job with enough duties.

Again, not judging, it is just good for others who might take this as an example to realize what makes this work or what makes it exceptional. Cheers.

I always forget advising after posting my dosages that I'm a disso and psychedelic hardhead. DON'T TAKE MY DOSES AS AN EXAMPLE OF ANYTHING!

My disso tolerance is fucked up because of many years of daily use of ketamine and MXE, and this past month was a bit crazy and I did some kind of disso nearly weekly, so 35mg was not a high dosage for me, judging that the day before taking this combo I was snorting ketamine and 2-OxO-PCM like if it was the end of the world.

Psychedelics, I don't know what it is, but it seems to be a natural tolerance to the effects, I never manage to have got a lot of mindfuck or visuals from my trips, even when I was beggining and there wasn't any tolerance to talk about. I'm taking psyhedelics no more than once a month, and always combined them with dissos since last year, so it's a familiar feeling for me.

The combo wasn't hard for what I'm used, the 2-OxO-PCE barely was felt and the 300ug of AL-LAD was a mild trip, not very potentiated by the 2-OxO-PCE. Was really functional the whole time, managing to surf the internet, understand films, and move trough the flat, but a bit slow at work today. Yesterday I had a day off because of carnival Though, my intention was not to be functional at all, but be smashed by a "dissodelic" punch.

I just need a break, that starts today and ends on the first of next month.