I wouldnt go so far as to say it doesnt work at all; it was merely an example to show how the sceintific community can successfully identify problems; unless you were referring to pbuilders use of smoking to discredit kratom's safety whereas I was arguing the otehr way. I was just saying for long term side effects they can still find the root problems. It jsut so happens (I didnt know about this thing so wasnt sure) this one would show itself immediately with sudden death so even better chances in terms of the likelihood of it being identified.
Anyway Im not interested in this thing it is a mountains out of mole hills as far as Im concerned. Kratom remains on my safe list