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Thanks for all that info Plasticity.
Couple quick questions:
What did you think of THIS part of the article:
"Fatal incidents with Mitragynine have been associated with cardiac arrest"
WHICH "fatal incidents" are they referring to??
I've only heard of 2 POSSIBLE ones so far: this guy in Colorado they CLAIM died from Kratom but we don't have proof that that's true, and then there's one report that several years ago a 17 year old Heroin addict died after a combo of some kind of Kratom or Kratom extract along with some unknown dosage of some kind of benzodiazepene which they say was a "therapeutic dosage" and some unknown dosage of some allergy medication which they also say was a "therapeutic dosage" but we don't know what else could have been wrong with him, the exact dosage or type of ANY of the other drugs he took even if they are claimed to be therapeutic, and also, Heroin addicts are FAR from healthy test subjects....
Then I also just found out that all of the following drugs can cause Torsade de Pointes: Prozac, Dexadrine, Albuterol, Cocaine, Erythromycin, Azithroymcin, Ketaconzole cream, Risperdal, Ritalin and Pseudoephedrine.
I've used ALL of those, and was even on Prozac for 20 years but if people were dropping dead from it it would be pulled from the shelves as would the others so can we not compare their risks of TDP to those of Kratom?
And just as a personal question:
Do you think that the fact that I take ONE pill of Allegra D--(pseudoephedrine) along with my Kratom to prevent allergies...considering that Psedefed has also be linked with Torsade, and then like to go to the gym and do moderate to moderately-heavy cardio on an elliptical while on both (and caffeine...and ONCE a week Phenibut... is significantly risking my chance of heart problems??
I am more talking about the Kratom/Pseudopehd/exercise combo than once a week Phenibut or caffeine but I am WELL aware that I need to cut down on the caffeine as a risk factor and plan to do so next month.
I have personally never noticed any stimulation from Allegra D which is interesting because i DID used to notice stimulation from Sudafed, and I know that Allegra D has pseudo ephedrine, but it just doesn't feel the same at all...I never notice any extra stimulation after taking it and I think therefore that it may be somewhat different and less stimulating than the old formula.
EKGs, EEGs, stress tests and blood pressure monitors have all confirmed I have no heart issues or high blood pressure and I am in good shape and 35 years old.
It doesn't seem like it would, but I just wanted a second opinion if you have the time.
Thanks