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How much did you do? What was the ROA? Did you take anything else with it?
The Big & Dandy Methoxphenidine / MXP / 2-MeO-Diphenidine Thread
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How much did you do? What was the ROA? Did you take anything else with it?
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same as above :-(
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I've only had it on a few hundred mg Tramadol (tolerance), nothing to write home about. Judging from my gut feel, a low dose dose might go very well with a high dose of opiates. Gonna have to find that balance of nodding without sleeping, the 2MeO-Diphetidine should put a different spin on it. In fact, there is a dosage range where dissociatives potentially share a lot of features with opiate nods. Now any other combo does not sound worth it to me (low dose opiate to take the edge off or anything like that...).
The main problem I see is that for all we know you already suffered kidney insufficiency and have been in a polytoxicomanic frenzy for weeks and finally decompensated after an astronomically high dose of 2-MeO-Diphetidine. On the other hand you might as well have been sober for the past year and only took a low recreational dose upon which you had to be rushed to the hospital due to acute kidney failure.
I'm certain you can easily see how these two stories make a difference when it comes to evaluating them in respect to 2-MeO-Diphetidine's safety profile. If you could supply more information it would be very much appreciated, you can rest assured of that. You might even save lives of people with pre-existing kidney dysfunctions who might decide against using this substance after reading your information.
Could you do us the courtesy to supply an actual report or some blood work results? I appreciate your registering to post this, but your post will simply be overread or not taken seriously the way it is. If you support the statement with further data, your story is likely to reach more people. The higher the credibility, the higher the chance other users like me will feel inclined to spread the word.
The main problem I see is that for all we know you already suffered kidney insufficiency and have been in a polytoxicomanic frenzy for weeks and finally decompensated after an astronomically high dose of 2-MeO-Diphetidine. On the other hand you might as well have been sober for the past year and only took a low recreational dose upon which you had to be rushed to the hospital due to acute kidney failure.
I'm certain you can easily see how these two stories make a difference when it comes to evaluating them in respect to 2-MeO-Diphetidine's safety profile. If you could supply more information it would be very much appreciated, you can rest assured of that. You might even save lives of people with pre-existing kidney dysfunctions who might decide against using this substance after reading your information.
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Last time I took some of this I took around 200mg in 2 100mg capsules (Estimate the capsules held 100mg of zoloft powder before i emptied them, I know density and shit yo) and by the lord liftin jesus what a trip! At one point for what seemed like an eternity i entered a state of pure bliss! It was just this overwhelming calm sensation, in my fucked up mindstate all I could think of was "I hacked life!" and "Am I permanently retarded?".
Hello everybody, on the psychonaut wiki of MXP ( http://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Methoxphenidine ), it is said : " IM, IV, and nasal require the tiniest bit of citric and results in a less gradual come-up ".
I am ok with IM and IV needing to be dissolved in water with citric to be injected but what does that really mean for the snorting side ? I do not get how you could snort something mixed with citric acid...or maybe I am getting something wrong and you just have to squirt in your nose the liquild you would inject otherwise. I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance and have a good evening.
P.S : Mine is the powder form.
I am ok with IM and IV needing to be dissolved in water with citric to be injected but what does that really mean for the snorting side ? I do not get how you could snort something mixed with citric acid...or maybe I am getting something wrong and you just have to squirt in your nose the liquild you would inject otherwise. I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance and have a good evening.
P.S : Mine is the powder form.
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Got round to trying this the other day, only remember the experience in bits and pieces as I experienced pretty intense amnesia whilst under its influence. You definitely don't need citric acid to dose it nasally, in my experience it worked similarly to nasal MXE. At the onset I found MXP made me feel philosophical and introspective and I found myself engaged in intellectual topics of conversation with my friend who had also dosed.
We watched the film The Wrong Ferarri which was very intense and I experienced strange spacial distortions when attempting to focus on the screen. There is an hour and a half gap missing from my memory around halfway through the film and I have no recollection of what happened at this point. After coming out of this amnesiac blank spot I felt very unnerved and kept asking my friend what had happened. Everything seemed like it was covered with a layer of shiny plastic and the rooms in my house seemed huge and cavernous.
We redosed a little more and I reached a hole of sorts while listening to Stars of The Lid, I can barely remember the hole but it consisted of a bizarre out of body experience where I drifted through a number of enviroments as a phantom observer including a night club. I also experienced incredibly vivid physical sensations such as my entire physical being bouncing, twisting and popping. Some of the thoughts that were going through my head at this point were completely insane and at one point I firmly believed that these strange physical sensations were signs of my newfound superpowers that were going to be of some great benefit to humanity. Very odd substance.
We watched the film The Wrong Ferarri which was very intense and I experienced strange spacial distortions when attempting to focus on the screen. There is an hour and a half gap missing from my memory around halfway through the film and I have no recollection of what happened at this point. After coming out of this amnesiac blank spot I felt very unnerved and kept asking my friend what had happened. Everything seemed like it was covered with a layer of shiny plastic and the rooms in my house seemed huge and cavernous.
We redosed a little more and I reached a hole of sorts while listening to Stars of The Lid, I can barely remember the hole but it consisted of a bizarre out of body experience where I drifted through a number of enviroments as a phantom observer including a night club. I also experienced incredibly vivid physical sensations such as my entire physical being bouncing, twisting and popping. Some of the thoughts that were going through my head at this point were completely insane and at one point I firmly believed that these strange physical sensations were signs of my newfound superpowers that were going to be of some great benefit to humanity. Very odd substance.
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how do you guys get this stuff to dissolve for plugging? i try mixing with tapwater and stirring, waiting, stirring again, and it still wont dissolve. then i plug it and its the slowest comeup ever, my asshole burning all the while this powder still clings to these tissues. would PPG or ethanol help, or some pH stabilizer such as the afreomentioned citric acid for IV/IM shots? I remember snorting this stuff gave a good rush, I just don't wanna go thru that again
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It's bullshit. You don't need citric to dissolve it. I did it both with and without and the solubility never increased the tiniest bit. You need propylene glycol is what you need if you have the same salt I have (it might as well be a freebase, but I don't think it is).
Same goes for rectal ROA, just don't do it. Trust me, I used to be a HUGE fan of plugging before I started shooting. Just not worth it here. You have to understand that the majority of substances does not kick in faster if you plug it.
Injecting this substance is not really worth it. I only take my dissociatives IV, but in this case you can really just eat it.
My recommendation:
-empty stomach
-propylene glycol
-tween 80
-mxp
-milk
->drink
Takes me 15 for comeup and a bit over an hour to peak. Some people report it takes them 3 hours or longer, definitely never seen that happen.
I use 250mg IV and 400mg orally, but be damn sure that this might be a lot more than you will enjoy. It's definitely more than I enjoy. Hell.
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Just trying 100mg wrapped up in a rizla and bombed. Been the gym today and ate fairly lightly except a couple of protein shakes and an omelette . Took a single benzo earlier to chill and watch films and perhaps get an early night but now I fancy exploring time and space 
No intentions of having any company or going out ... will probably end up watching a couple of 3D films ... but who knows
Will report back later, if I remember
Stay safe out there!
No intentions of having any company or going out ... will probably end up watching a couple of 3D films ... but who knows Will report back later, if I remember
Stay safe out there!
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Had a really enoyable experience on this the other day, there's definitely more to it than i first thought. The experience itself seems very malleable and open to suggestion and the high hard to pin down. The aesthetic of the trip seemed to dramatically change several times.
The bodily sensations I experience when on MXP are utterly bizarre, reminding me a little bit of being on opiates but mixed in with a distinctive dissociative weirdness. At times it felt like my whole being was composed of vibrating and popping bubble wrap. Listening to music made me feel nostalgic and philosophical and the overall general feel at this point was one of much contentment.
Redosing lead to increased mania and general scatterbrained weirdness by all parties involved. Large amounts of alcohol were consumed at this point and at one point i felt compelled to "write the MXP bible" but writing was far beyond my capabilities and an attempt to pen the words "in the beginning there was methoxphenidine" came out as little more than a scribble. At this point things felt like they were moving in slow motion and were flanging fairly dramatically. While we sat in the dark in my friend's living room watching fractal videos from youtube on his TV screen one member of our group completely lost the ability to speak for around an hour and could only communicate in bizarre slurred noises.
The day after I also felt very at peace with myself yet also quiet and introspective with no hint of any hangover.
The bodily sensations I experience when on MXP are utterly bizarre, reminding me a little bit of being on opiates but mixed in with a distinctive dissociative weirdness. At times it felt like my whole being was composed of vibrating and popping bubble wrap. Listening to music made me feel nostalgic and philosophical and the overall general feel at this point was one of much contentment.
Redosing lead to increased mania and general scatterbrained weirdness by all parties involved. Large amounts of alcohol were consumed at this point and at one point i felt compelled to "write the MXP bible" but writing was far beyond my capabilities and an attempt to pen the words "in the beginning there was methoxphenidine" came out as little more than a scribble. At this point things felt like they were moving in slow motion and were flanging fairly dramatically. While we sat in the dark in my friend's living room watching fractal videos from youtube on his TV screen one member of our group completely lost the ability to speak for around an hour and could only communicate in bizarre slurred noises.
The day after I also felt very at peace with myself yet also quiet and introspective with no hint of any hangover.
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3 hours in. Snorted a line of about 50mg an hour ago and bombed another 50mg. Blundering about clumsily and writing random rubbish to various people. Fairly mellow. Think the benzo might be holding me back a bit. Seems a fairly inoffensive chemical Im happy in my own little world but still very much on earth. Tempted to just do the last 200mg and see if a K-Hole is possible ....
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This is a complete medical Breakthrough. I purchased some of this. I took one 100mcg of 1P-LSD and 100mcg of this in a drink and drank it through the night. While listening to Emotional Vocal trance in my room. It was nothing but Amazing. But you have to be very careful. When i felt myself coming round i took 7mg of diclazapam which made me fall asleep. I woke up feeling quite at one with everything and especially music. But i still wanted to go deeper into my subconcious because i felt there was still under lining problems in me that i had to face. So i decided to put 0.9 g ( The rest of the MXP) in my drink. And i layed there with spiritual music on. I could slowly feel myself going deeper and deeper. And eventually i just drank it all. And at this point i knew there was no turning back. If i came out of this dead or alive i knrw i had to do it. All the pian and suffering and every memorie ( Remembered or Forgotten) came to me over the course of 24 hours. I remember things that i never even knew. I had so much realisation of who i was because i was standing over my body witnesing what other people see and my soul was telling me that i had to stop drinking and doing drugs because it was ruining not only my life but everyone elses. I then saw my grandmother, grandfather and step-father who died and told me it wernt my time to join them and i cried and cried saying that i wanted to stay with them but they wouldnt let me. Gradually they started to mist out and get further and further away and i couldnt reach them no matter what. Slowly and slowly i started coming out from this deep hole. Asking my father calling him (daddy) i want to watch my favourit childhood film Harry Potter. And he has said i was acting like a 4 year old gradually getting more mature as the hours past. I slept that night with him looking after me by my bedside. When i woke up the next morning i went and hugged all my family and said sorry for everything iv ever done to hurt them and that i loved them. I was previously a Alcholic and addicted to meow. But since this has happened i havnt craved or thought of any drug or inpurity. This could be a medical breakthrough for people suffering Phsycosis or any mental illness or trauma that has effected thier lives. But make sure someones on hand to look after you. I recomend the dose i done for the cleanse to take effect.
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Im going to be doing a long post soon on how MxP has helped me overcome my health issues by supressing my need to smoke and drink whislt on it. Its a gr8 substance. (cooincidentally the above post is somewhat the same thing). Everytime i come out of the trip i feel stronger than before! great substance, but use with care!
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I've got 2 grams of this on the way as something of a tester against buying quite a bit more 3 MEO PCMO and will let you know how they compare.
I think context and setting is crucial with dissociatives,, but for me I managed to get 5 grams of 3 MEO PCMO REAL cheap and I gotta say - having missed getting my hands on cheap dissociatives for a few years now but probably hammering K especially a bit too much back in my younger days,, I was pleasantly surprised with,, all I'm gonna say is most definitely higher doses of 3-MEO-PCMO.
I've always felt,, begrudgingly that once you've gone through an initial phase of dissociative binges, tolerance can often stay rather high despite years away. And this certainly proved the case with 3-MEO-PCMO as much as it does with the (obviously still far superior) K.
However I'm just at one of those points in my life where it's far easier now to get the hard street drugs,, mainly opiate based is my preference than it is to get dissociatives (unless I turned to the darkweb / silkroad stuff which for me is probably a bad idea longterm,, besides,, bitcoin is thankfully well confusing!),, So anyway I was pretty pleased at news that a new dissociative like 3-MEO-PCMO was available legally. Makes a change,, but my brain chemistry's just always suited lesser, long lasting opiates, dissociatives, shrooms and benzos to cope with the tyranny of boredom and coping socially. Why on earth alcohol and weed are socially accepted but pods, shrooms and,, ,, urggh,, sigh,, not worth even typing about is it?!!
Thanks ever so much for this thread,, I'm reading as I go but will try to report back on my own experiences of Methoxphenidine compared to 3-MEO-PCMO.
I'd have to say at this stage I certainly preferred high doses of 3-MEO-PCMO to higher doses of MXE when that was around.. Nothing I've come across beats the quick onset and effects of Ketamine imho but then we did seem to rinse it for all it was worth till urinating felt like pissing razors, K-holing just led to a strange 'wibbly-wobbly' type effect, and its moreishness just led to me needing a break from it for a good few years - I'm sure some here will know what I'm admittedly poorly describing. I wish I'd have done K a lot more sparingly, longer, than I did once upon a time.
Anyway,, great to see some legal dissociatives around and I'll try to update you on comparitive effects between Methoxphenidine and 3-MEO-PCMO in days ahead.
Thanks again for all you guys superb input.
Try to stay safe and all, ya know.
I think context and setting is crucial with dissociatives,, but for me I managed to get 5 grams of 3 MEO PCMO REAL cheap and I gotta say - having missed getting my hands on cheap dissociatives for a few years now but probably hammering K especially a bit too much back in my younger days,, I was pleasantly surprised with,, all I'm gonna say is most definitely higher doses of 3-MEO-PCMO.
I've always felt,, begrudgingly that once you've gone through an initial phase of dissociative binges, tolerance can often stay rather high despite years away. And this certainly proved the case with 3-MEO-PCMO as much as it does with the (obviously still far superior) K.
However I'm just at one of those points in my life where it's far easier now to get the hard street drugs,, mainly opiate based is my preference than it is to get dissociatives (unless I turned to the darkweb / silkroad stuff which for me is probably a bad idea longterm,, besides,, bitcoin is thankfully well confusing!),, So anyway I was pretty pleased at news that a new dissociative like 3-MEO-PCMO was available legally. Makes a change,, but my brain chemistry's just always suited lesser, long lasting opiates, dissociatives, shrooms and benzos to cope with the tyranny of boredom and coping socially. Why on earth alcohol and weed are socially accepted but pods, shrooms and,, ,, urggh,, sigh,, not worth even typing about is it?!!
Thanks ever so much for this thread,, I'm reading as I go but will try to report back on my own experiences of Methoxphenidine compared to 3-MEO-PCMO.
I'd have to say at this stage I certainly preferred high doses of 3-MEO-PCMO to higher doses of MXE when that was around.. Nothing I've come across beats the quick onset and effects of Ketamine imho but then we did seem to rinse it for all it was worth till urinating felt like pissing razors, K-holing just led to a strange 'wibbly-wobbly' type effect, and its moreishness just led to me needing a break from it for a good few years - I'm sure some here will know what I'm admittedly poorly describing. I wish I'd have done K a lot more sparingly, longer, than I did once upon a time.
Anyway,, great to see some legal dissociatives around and I'll try to update you on comparitive effects between Methoxphenidine and 3-MEO-PCMO in days ahead.
Thanks again for all you guys superb input.
Try to stay safe and all, ya know.
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I will be doing this with at least poppy-pod tea on one occasion - and perhaps a recreational dose of methadone (25mg/ml) to if I can fit them both in after trying them from straight.. I only have 2 grams to play with but will at least be able to fit pod-tea in to.
Not that anyone should ever consider this (unless you're me of course,, my life) but especially if you're not well accustomed to the effects of such longer lasting opiates.
Will let you know.
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So 2 grams arrived today, and after reading much of the thread (much appreciated) I think it safe for me to gauge a starting dose of 125mg orally, but I won't redose no matter what, as from what I've read this seems like it could be quite a beast compared to MXE and 3 MEO-PCMO,, maybe even K fingers crossed.
I'm just on the tail end of a mild 20 mg/ml (recreational- once a week) methadone dose from yesterday alongside a strong pod tea yesterday and mild (2nd rinse) pod tea earlier today so a bit lightly 'noddy' but fairly straight.
Crucially I'm home alone which is always my preferred setting for dissociatives anyway with Valium spare, and as mentioned I did get through a load of 3 MEO-PCMO at the weekend - which I was actually pleasantly surprised with effect-wise but on way higher doses than normally mentioned.
Anyway,, thanks for all the advice everyone,, will let ya know.
*Update - 125mg orally,, on fairly full stomach left me fairly unimpressed.
I'd describe the physicals more like woozy-drunk than any of the more fun angular style of walking wonkily with gravity that K does. It has an interesting effect on the body coming up on it, more heavy than light though,, like you can feel its pull more like Salvia than Ketamine. That sucked as I'm no fan of Salvia.
MILDish dissociative feelings sure (3 outta 10 type. Could still go out and talk / score easily) but not even approaching what fun I got up to on K > MXE or 3 MEO-PCMO at much higher doses,,which I did very recently so this may have hindered initial try-outs to be fair.
This underwhelming experience is blatantly mostly a tolerance issue my end rather than the drugs subjective effects.
But still for what it's worth it wasn't near anything as forgettably memorable as even a mid-MXE dose this time round.
And the long onset / duration is so far from the snorting half a gram of K type BOOM onset/experience I for one prefer, so probably about as far from K as a dissociative gets for me thus far but I got more to play with.
Though just speaking for myself,, whilst I do over emphasise subjective elements to all this (for good reason especially with this substance) I'm actually a bit more likely to want some insane for a few hours dissociation like cr00k eloquently suggests than a more typical psychedelic experience.
That first dose felt a bit like being back in dissociative kindergarten whilst trying to remind the teacher I got to IM'ing K just to try to make the most of a now pretty damn expensive substance comparitively years ago.. Still I appreciate that especially with this strange substance there's no other way but to take it very easy at first.
Perhaps some would recommend this as an entry level dissociative,, I personally wouldn't on that and having read half the board notes by now,, meh, once I tweak the variables maybe I'll get better results. There'll be a next time - and context is always important (I seldom do dissociatives with others for starters).
To be fair I was left unimpressed enough to have a poppy-pod tea three quarters of the way through. My bodies obviously not yours but for what it's worth I'm an experienced, healthy-ish male mid-30s and yeah,, definitely got some of the effects described but basically for a first time not that impressed. Then again I wasnt with 3 MEO PCMO either till I well upped the dosage to suit me. I figure I'll up my dose next time, do it on an empty stomach without opiates - which I found didn't particularly help at very least the opiate buzz but it was just a pod tea anyway.
On the positive (and actually it is surprisingly positive) I did wake up the following day with an alarmingly happy spring in my step for some weird reason so not all bad. I'm fairly sure I'll be able to handle around 200mgs next seeing as I could function in public on 125mgs even though,, yeah,, more of a clear headed but woozy effect on the body physically. Sloppy drunk rather than wonky robo-K walking. Hopefully I can plug this stuff to. Meh.. Till next time
I'm just on the tail end of a mild 20 mg/ml (recreational- once a week) methadone dose from yesterday alongside a strong pod tea yesterday and mild (2nd rinse) pod tea earlier today so a bit lightly 'noddy' but fairly straight.
Crucially I'm home alone which is always my preferred setting for dissociatives anyway with Valium spare, and as mentioned I did get through a load of 3 MEO-PCMO at the weekend - which I was actually pleasantly surprised with effect-wise but on way higher doses than normally mentioned.
Anyway,, thanks for all the advice everyone,, will let ya know.
*Update - 125mg orally,, on fairly full stomach left me fairly unimpressed.
I'd describe the physicals more like woozy-drunk than any of the more fun angular style of walking wonkily with gravity that K does. It has an interesting effect on the body coming up on it, more heavy than light though,, like you can feel its pull more like Salvia than Ketamine. That sucked as I'm no fan of Salvia.
MILDish dissociative feelings sure (3 outta 10 type. Could still go out and talk / score easily) but not even approaching what fun I got up to on K > MXE or 3 MEO-PCMO at much higher doses,,which I did very recently so this may have hindered initial try-outs to be fair.
This underwhelming experience is blatantly mostly a tolerance issue my end rather than the drugs subjective effects.
But still for what it's worth it wasn't near anything as forgettably memorable as even a mid-MXE dose this time round.
And the long onset / duration is so far from the snorting half a gram of K type BOOM onset/experience I for one prefer, so probably about as far from K as a dissociative gets for me thus far but I got more to play with.
Though just speaking for myself,, whilst I do over emphasise subjective elements to all this (for good reason especially with this substance) I'm actually a bit more likely to want some insane for a few hours dissociation like cr00k eloquently suggests than a more typical psychedelic experience.
That first dose felt a bit like being back in dissociative kindergarten whilst trying to remind the teacher I got to IM'ing K just to try to make the most of a now pretty damn expensive substance comparitively years ago.. Still I appreciate that especially with this strange substance there's no other way but to take it very easy at first.
Perhaps some would recommend this as an entry level dissociative,, I personally wouldn't on that and having read half the board notes by now,, meh, once I tweak the variables maybe I'll get better results. There'll be a next time - and context is always important (I seldom do dissociatives with others for starters).
To be fair I was left unimpressed enough to have a poppy-pod tea three quarters of the way through. My bodies obviously not yours but for what it's worth I'm an experienced, healthy-ish male mid-30s and yeah,, definitely got some of the effects described but basically for a first time not that impressed. Then again I wasnt with 3 MEO PCMO either till I well upped the dosage to suit me. I figure I'll up my dose next time, do it on an empty stomach without opiates - which I found didn't particularly help at very least the opiate buzz but it was just a pod tea anyway.
On the positive (and actually it is surprisingly positive) I did wake up the following day with an alarmingly happy spring in my step for some weird reason so not all bad. I'm fairly sure I'll be able to handle around 200mgs next seeing as I could function in public on 125mgs even though,, yeah,, more of a clear headed but woozy effect on the body physically. Sloppy drunk rather than wonky robo-K walking. Hopefully I can plug this stuff to. Meh.. Till next time
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OK, 2nd time round on this. Gummed (oral) a first 125, nastyish taste but went away / Ate a 2nd 125mg both around 10.5 now hours ago
Before even thinking how I'll end this report I've A) noticed it seems a far better anti-depressant than it is a hardcore dissociative and B) noticed that at least in public lends itself to an annoying slurry type of physical wooziness which is about as far from the fun I had 'back in the day' when I used to challenge myself to shadow-box having just snorted big lines of Ketamine,, which as a past-time used to be a super-fun challenge for the body,, physically. This stuff,, FOR ME, physically, certainly on a trial dose of 125mg is just nothing like that. Context is everything though,, I know. .
So I've been on a 250mg dose for the past 10 hours,, 10 and a half whilst typing this and a bit of re-editing but probably most crucially to this report keeping very busy with an "art" project I have 2 weeks to submit -
But for this report it's more about things like mixing glues with sands, sticking cotton wool to plasticene, whitewashin,, basic craft stuff whilst listening to documentaries and so on - anyway,, so,, 250mg of this stuff,, pretty lucid,, (but I may just have the wrong idea of what terms like 'lucid' means,, like 'art' and 'god') - pretty functioning and able to handle this dose anyway - just stopping by to type this in before getting on with other stuff.
Anyway, after at least 10 hours (though more in case I want to re-edit any info,, the main thing is,, it seems to give me more pep than usual,, maybe even a 250mg dose for me isn't as much an issue as what I'm doing whilst on the stuff - but none of the classic dissociative fun type stuff like happened after hoovering up fuck-tons of that 3 MEO-PCMO stuff whatsoever. Maybe I'm a borderline drugs mutant though?
But anyway A BIG ISSUE is that whenever I sit down I get small muscle spasms mainly in my legs.
The mental and psychadelic effects are minimal, more of a decent workhorse type stim like ephidrine coffee and nicotine with a few kinda spacey feelings - certainly nothing to put me off the stuff whatsoever at this level. Seems weird they're even marketing this one as a dissociative to be frank next to the 3 MEO stuff at very high doses,, maybe I just need high as heck doses in different circumstances and your an allergic spastic reading this who dies from 1 mg of the stuff -
I don't know kids,, but whilst they're still legal and until a certain "legal highs bill" gets enforced forcing us all to start injecting our own shit out of boredom in this particular submergian country of tossers - I just got delivered quite legally a little uhhh, 3-Flurophenmetrazine (90210) and some Diphenidine so I'll be back to type back to my somewhat refined readership about how they compare.
Until then,, I'm sorry if this isn't your normal style of report but it's just how I like to write as you'll maybe read in later posts. Besides I haven't really been posting about all the usual head-shop stuff they sell to bluelight but it looks like I'll be doing more posting to here this summer due to the cheap prices these things come at and having not much else to do except these style drugs,, opiates and art-work projects. But yeah,, this,, as a drug for me at 250mg 10.5 hours in is a decent way to keep busy until an art deadline and the entire world stops taking all drugs under a new political bill being put through parliament is what the computer is suggesting anyway. Weird little muscle spasms though,, definitely. And it's about as far from classic K-holes as is but what'evs,, maybe I'm just a bit special at trying to be human or something.. Beats me.
Before even thinking how I'll end this report I've A) noticed it seems a far better anti-depressant than it is a hardcore dissociative and B) noticed that at least in public lends itself to an annoying slurry type of physical wooziness which is about as far from the fun I had 'back in the day' when I used to challenge myself to shadow-box having just snorted big lines of Ketamine,, which as a past-time used to be a super-fun challenge for the body,, physically. This stuff,, FOR ME, physically, certainly on a trial dose of 125mg is just nothing like that. Context is everything though,, I know. .
So I've been on a 250mg dose for the past 10 hours,, 10 and a half whilst typing this and a bit of re-editing but probably most crucially to this report keeping very busy with an "art" project I have 2 weeks to submit -
But for this report it's more about things like mixing glues with sands, sticking cotton wool to plasticene, whitewashin,, basic craft stuff whilst listening to documentaries and so on - anyway,, so,, 250mg of this stuff,, pretty lucid,, (but I may just have the wrong idea of what terms like 'lucid' means,, like 'art' and 'god') - pretty functioning and able to handle this dose anyway - just stopping by to type this in before getting on with other stuff.
Anyway, after at least 10 hours (though more in case I want to re-edit any info,, the main thing is,, it seems to give me more pep than usual,, maybe even a 250mg dose for me isn't as much an issue as what I'm doing whilst on the stuff - but none of the classic dissociative fun type stuff like happened after hoovering up fuck-tons of that 3 MEO-PCMO stuff whatsoever. Maybe I'm a borderline drugs mutant though?
But anyway A BIG ISSUE is that whenever I sit down I get small muscle spasms mainly in my legs.
The mental and psychadelic effects are minimal, more of a decent workhorse type stim like ephidrine coffee and nicotine with a few kinda spacey feelings - certainly nothing to put me off the stuff whatsoever at this level. Seems weird they're even marketing this one as a dissociative to be frank next to the 3 MEO stuff at very high doses,, maybe I just need high as heck doses in different circumstances and your an allergic spastic reading this who dies from 1 mg of the stuff -
I don't know kids,, but whilst they're still legal and until a certain "legal highs bill" gets enforced forcing us all to start injecting our own shit out of boredom in this particular submergian country of tossers - I just got delivered quite legally a little uhhh, 3-Flurophenmetrazine (90210) and some Diphenidine so I'll be back to type back to my somewhat refined readership about how they compare.
Until then,, I'm sorry if this isn't your normal style of report but it's just how I like to write as you'll maybe read in later posts. Besides I haven't really been posting about all the usual head-shop stuff they sell to bluelight but it looks like I'll be doing more posting to here this summer due to the cheap prices these things come at and having not much else to do except these style drugs,, opiates and art-work projects. But yeah,, this,, as a drug for me at 250mg 10.5 hours in is a decent way to keep busy until an art deadline and the entire world stops taking all drugs under a new political bill being put through parliament is what the computer is suggesting anyway. Weird little muscle spasms though,, definitely. And it's about as far from classic K-holes as is but what'evs,, maybe I'm just a bit special at trying to be human or something.. Beats me.
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I got that effect off 3-OH-PCP, which on top of that was not psychoactive at all. Scary stuff. I advise you to stay off this chemical, you never know what it may do to your heart.
That being said, this chemical has a threshold dose at which things really spin out of control at which point the effects become a lot more like those of ketamine, but infinitely crazier and more importantly very bizarre and scary. I've said it before, but I experienced my first NDE on this (after hundreds of inhaled/IV DMT and IV Ketamine experiences). Below a certain dose it's just whack though and not really worthwhile in my opinion. On the other hand, the plateau has never really lasted longer than roughly two hours with the onset being located in the first hour after an oral dose and most residual effects being gone after 6h. That means I suspect effects vary profoundly, probably due to some type of variance in how we metabolize it, but there really is no telling. In other words, some people may not be able to experience the effects that manifest past said threshold.
Be that as it may, don't take this stuff if you experienced muscle spasms on it and value your life.
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