Opioids first w/d symtoms?

[sarajenni88]

Im going thru Wds right now, the worst part for me is the insomnia, and even when you do get to sleep, when you wake up and realize you have nothing, it is HORRIBLE!!!!! Besides that, the fact that time seems to stand still during wds! Ive laid in bed a few times right after texting my dude, and literally have to lie there until I get the call to go meet him, (usually about an hour or 2), but I think this period goes slower, cuz you know your going to get some relief soon but waiting is a killer.

Oh yea, forgot to mention the damn drug dreams when you do get to sleep, I freakin hate having dreams where I find a huge fat bag just laying on the ground, but cannot find a lighter/gear...its like I cant even have a good dream about drugs, have to suffer in them too! LOL

Also I get that bad smell during wds, its nasty smell, like sweet furnace burning type smell, Ive noticed I always get this during wds, no matter where I am. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Lol one time I had a dream while w/ding that I had a king size tic tax container filled with blues!!!

 

[sarajenni88]

I'm usually just laying on the floor for a month so I don't know what order exactly but first probably the sensitivity to cold then the runny nose and bone ache's followed by sweating i get after 6 hours without a shot of dope then start the stomach issues and yea if its been more than 4 hours since I got high and its bed time then I ain't gonna sleep a wink until I got more shit in my system. After one day of withdrawal then I'm screwed and I'm stuck on the floor. I've found if I can get myself up by sniffing some t3s then if I am working its a lot easier to maintain cause it keeps my mind off the fact I feel so sick. I don't know why but one of the things I hate the most is the cold feeling you always have. I used to go pick up dope all bundled up like I'm in the arctic ( I live in Canada so its cold but not like the arctic) then when I fix I get so hot and take off all my layers I found this to be very pleasurable

O my BLBFF that sounds horrible hun

And you are so far north u mine as well be in the artic lol. I have the opposite happen actually:
i cant stand the heat. My whole body just gets overwhelmed with a heat wave. I go from hot to cold like some little fucker is inside of my turning my thermostat just for fun. Blah

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

O my BLBFF that sounds horrible hun

And you are so far north u mine as well be in the artic lol. I have the opposite happen actually:
i cant stand the heat. My whole body just gets overwhelmed with a heat wave. I go from hot to cold like some little fucker is inside of my turning my thermostat just for fun. Blah

That's the hyperactivity of the autonomic nervous system. Really shitty. I hate that, but I hate the straight up body pain more.

Not all places in Canada have arctic conditions.

where do you live?

 

[belfort]

first withdrawal symptoms i used to get was a general uneasiness, i felt shitty in my own skin, dysphoric...i would get a layer of sweat on my back, on and off temperature..the worst thing is the reality that you KNOW whats coming in 4-5 hours if you dont get some dope..your stomach will start to cramp, extreme fatigue will kick in, everything will ache, your every damned thought is fixated on dope, bad depression..you will be laying in bed tossing and turning and having to piss every 5 minutes..just a miserable experience..

the first few times i ever experienced withdrawals i noticed my legs felt uncomfortable, thats it..i had no idea what opiate addiction was or felt like but my legs had a hard time sitting still, felt sort of achy and just restless..i also noticed when i took more opiods that restlessness went away...hmm i wonder why lol

 

[belfort]

whoever said they can still sleep during withdrawals, they are very very lucky..sleep was impossible for me during the initial withdrawal phase on through to the end stage...after a week or so id start to get 1-2 hours of sleep a night..insomnia is a nightmare when kicking opiates..

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

In order of horribility, I rank them

1 Body Pain
2 Set point temperature being fucked (hot and cold sweats, temp never right)
3 Insomnia (though this has the potential to be number 1_
4 The Shits
5 Depression, though this can be increased to number 2 depending on severity of symptoms

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

Hah "horribility"? Haven't heard that one before. Totally not a word, but it should be. Haha.

 

[The Doc.]

That's the hyperactivity of the autonomic nervous system. Really shitty. I hate that, but I hate the straight up body pain more.

Not all places in Canada have arctic conditions.

where do you live?

Lolnot in the Arctic that's for sure. I live in B.C. its mostly rain it gets pretty dam cold especially being right next to the ocean it just tends to chill you right to the bone no matter how many layers you got on where as in Alberta its colder but its a dry cold so if you have a few layers your usually fine. We don't get much snow though so that's good (I hate snow)

 

[Zeppelin4519]

First comes the horrible anxiety and hot/cold body feeling with uncomfortable tingles like I haven't had a cigarette in days, then comes the diarrhea. The worst it's ever been for me was the most debilitating pain in my knees and elbows. I thought I wouldn't make it. Only happened once though when my addiction was at its worst. Have had it "under control" since then. Never get too hooked because I'm scared of that pain.

 

[fizzymk]

Im in a happy state today got my script filled, so Im good for another couple weeks!

The insomnia is bad, and worst part for me is sitting there watching the sun come up knowing you have no dope and another damn day is just getting started...damn, thats a bad bad feeling! This has got me into financial trouble more than once, as I think I can go a couple days without and then end up saying fuck it and spend money I shouldnt be, on dope instead of bills!

I really hate the way the opiate w/d works, it would be a different story if each day got better and better, but since its actually the reverse of that, I can totally understand why coming off this shit nearly impossible...how many people can put up with w/ds for weeks upon weeks, when each day gets worse?!!

They really need to come up with a new med that helps with this...if w/d got better each day I could probably kick the habit.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

Well it does start to get better each day eventually. It builds up, getting worse every day for a little while until it peaks, usually on day 3-4, then gets a little better for the next couple days.. then often reaches a plateau phase where you feel basically the same level of shitty everyday for another week or two, then it finally begins to get better every day.

It's certainly a real bitch.. ha. If it was easy, there wouldn't be so many dependent people out there. Fear of going through withdrawal and not being able to endure to the end, is the main reason people sight as to why they continue using.

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

^^

Hah "horribility"? Haven't heard that one before. Totally not a word, but it should be. Haha.

Lol, I thought I coined it, but a quick look and it's on urban dictionary:

"Horribility

the ability or the act of being horrible

Joe has so much horribility, but he instead, he decides to be nice to everyone."

It's a good word for opioid W/D

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

Hah totally.

 

[belfort]

honestly i think the worst part of withdrawal is the 5-6 month period of extreme depression and low motivation that follows the physical withdrawals..the dragging yourself out of bed only to be fatigued so easily and just depressed and dysphoric all day long was brutal..this period of nastiness rarely gets mentioned and im not sure why..the 'not feeling right in your own skin' feeling that lingers is just maddening..

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ i know what you mean by that.. im FINALLY getting outta that now. Except mine was over a year long of it.
Fucking bupe PAWS are the worst i ever had.

SO glad im done with opiates.
I'm planning on keeping it that way too

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

Well, in reality, the PAWs are probably really the worst part, because they are extended. But during Acute W/D you wouldn't agree

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^true.
Once through the acute wds I'm like ok i feel a little better, but then the little better doesn't change much for a long time.

Acute wds for me are like a sudden onset of all kinds of hurt and uncomfortableness.
PAWS to me is like slow torture that seems will never end.

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

^true.
Once through the acute wds I'm like ok i feel a little better, but then the little better doesn't change much for a long time.

Acute wds for me are like a sudden onset of all kinds of hurt and uncomfortableness.
PAWS to me is like slow torture that seems will never end.

Exactly. Why opioids are so addictive.

I do hope they discover a drug that can reset receptor changes, and we can get high with not worries like weed!

 

[fizzymk]

^^

Well it does start to get better each day eventually. It builds up, getting worse every day for a little while until it peaks, usually on day 3-4, then gets a little better for the next couple days.. then often reaches a plateau phase where you feel basically the same level of shitty everyday for another week or two, then it finally begins to get better every day.

It's certainly a real bitch.. ha. If it was easy, there wouldn't be so many dependent people out there. Fear of going through withdrawal and not being able to endure to the end, is the main reason people sight as to why they continue using.

I wish my wds peaked after 3-4 days, I have went thru methadone wd so many times in the past 11 years, Im surprised Im still alive...I can honestly say heroin wds are a walk in the park compared to methadone wd.

For me, usually the first 2-3 days of wd from methadone are not that bad, I can still get full nights sleep, dont feel great, but not in bedridden condition yet either....but then on about the 3 or 4th day, the wds start to kick in heavy, not sleeping much, aches all over, horrible headaches, nasty sickening 'smell' I notice wherever I am at, body temp going crazy, nasty sweaty feeling, sneezing and yawning fits, stomach all cramped up...NOTHING seems to work to ease these wds, Ive tried smoking pot, getting drunk in the past, but ultimately, that just makes the wds worse in my opinion.

During this time is when I cant resist the urge to pick up my phone and text my guy, its almost impossible not to...Ive tried, but I keep thinking, their number is just sitting in my phone and I know the dope is just a text away, My mouth starts watering when I think about it, during this time period, time itself seems to stop! LOL

For me I experience the above for up to 12 days, but it probably is longer, 12 days is the longest Ive EVER went going thru wds, and for me, (Ive heard methadone wds can go on for months), they did not peak, it was worse and worse by each day, to get thru it,a person has to REALLY want to stop using and be a VERY strong willed person as well, I am neither of those, I enjoy opiates and am not strong willed, if I have the money, (sometimes even if I dont), I still ALWAYs give in and make the call. I cant count how many times in the past I have called friends/family making up some sob story about having something come up, some bill, or car repair, etc, which I dont have the money and ask to borrow a few hundred bucks, and usually 90% go straight to dope right after I get the cash in hand!

I truly think the ONLY way I could get thru wds would be if I had ZERO connections, ZERO money, and no chance of getting any, not even $20, but Im not sure what I MAY do in such a time either,Ive never been in that desperate of a spot before.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

Yeah methadone withdrawals are brutal because of it's extremely long half-life. The acute-withdrawals don't peak with methadone for weeks sometimes.