Thorns Have Roses
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^Not even a realization of anatta? You are truly a singular person.
I dunno if I'm that singular.
Have you really lost all sense of your self to the extent that a tramp could walk in, pull your trousers down and have sex with you and you wouldn't notice?
I dunno if I'm that singular. One of the standard definitions of a psychedelic drug is that you're aware you've taken a drug. If you arn't they usually call that a deleriant instead. Have you really lost all sense of your self to the extent that a tramp could walk in, pull your trousers down and have sex with you and you wouldn't notice?
Seeing as everyones idea of what "ego-death" means is different I think many people just confuse "ego-death" with "being high on a psychedelic drug".
No, in the same way that someone who is meditating is likely not to let someone repeatedly stab them. Don't be ridiculous.
For me, LSD is not a drug that I take to achieve ego death. 5 grams of mushrooms laying down on a couch in a dimly lit room will get you "there" no problem.
Then by definition you havn't "lost all sense of self". Think about it.
On DMT the last thing I was thinking was "I'm on a drug right now!"
But the point is you would have realised you were on a drug - again this is proof positive you havn't lost "all sense of self".
Nah, you're talking out the back of your arse there chitown. I've taken 3 times that dose of mushrooms and never had an "ego death". Can you define what you mean by "having an ego death"? Or is it just the feeling you get when you can't handle your high on a big dose?
Ego death really means one thing. Dissolution of the users ego, aka loosing all sense of self. Separation of the mind from body in the simplest description.I dunno if I'm that singular. One of the standard definitions of a psychedelic drug is that you're aware you've taken a drug. If you arn't they usually call that a deleriant instead. Have you really lost all sense of your self to the extent that a tramp could walk in, pull your trousers down and have sex with you and you wouldn't notice?
Seeing as everyones idea of what "ego-death" means is different I think many people just confuse "ego-death" with "being high on a psychedelic drug".
Yes, on high doses of psychedelics I have zero sense of self (once you reach the point of no return generally starting around the peak) . You don't know you are on drugs if your experiencing ego death. You don't know who "you" are. You are everything and nothing at the same time. Complete ego dissolution.
On high enough dosages there really is no fighting it.
I dunno - I've taken incredibly high doses and always realised I was tripping. That's the beauty of psychedelics for me. I can't see any enjoyment in being totally bewildered as to what's happening to you and not understanding you're on a drug. If I wanted an experience like that I'd take a heavy dose of datura, not a psychedelic.
Usually the higher doses keep you from getting to those kind of states.