futura2012
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Hello
Thought I would start this thread in hope I can share information with other people who have been affected from this awful combination.
It seems for some of us unlucky few when you mix MDMA and BZP some kind of long term comedown is triggered.
I have personally had two of these comedowns from this BZP mix.
One lasted for 6 months the other one I am still unfortunately experiencing.
This comedown experience is truly AWFUL. My life has been shot to shreds.
I picked this up from a king pin post in 2008
"CYP2D6 is the enzyme that breaks down both MDxx and Piperazines. Now when you take the two together they both inhibit the CYP2D6 from breaking down the other. As a consiquence neather realy get broken down and your body can't handle being intoxicated for that long as such. Its thought that taking the mdma first gives the worse results as its the stronger inhibiter."
mr blonde
"Well, keep in mind that MDMA is mostly excreted from your body unchanged, it doesn't get metabolized much. BZP though could probably be affected, whether it's dangerous or not I don't know. "
the extreme
David Urpeth, Assistant Deputy Coroner of Sheffield, England, said there is a “significant chance” that more deaths will occur from BZP, which is “a new drug and a cause for concern.” Urpeth said that BZP is not deadly on its own, as it is only about a tenth the strength of Ecstasy, but that it “appears to cause death in conjunction with Ecstasy.” And since it is much less potent than Ecstasy, it’s likely that most people will use BZP to enhance the experience of MDMA.
Just wondering if there is anyone else out there with a similiar experience with this horrible MDMA and BZP mixture and to possibley try and find out more as to the true cause of it..
I am particularly to know if anyone understands in more detail apossible theory as to the cause of this.
Is the CYP2D6 enzyme the actual cause?
Has anyone taken any meds and had success stories?
Whats your story?
Futura
Thought I would start this thread in hope I can share information with other people who have been affected from this awful combination.
It seems for some of us unlucky few when you mix MDMA and BZP some kind of long term comedown is triggered.
I have personally had two of these comedowns from this BZP mix.
One lasted for 6 months the other one I am still unfortunately experiencing.
This comedown experience is truly AWFUL. My life has been shot to shreds.
I picked this up from a king pin post in 2008
"CYP2D6 is the enzyme that breaks down both MDxx and Piperazines. Now when you take the two together they both inhibit the CYP2D6 from breaking down the other. As a consiquence neather realy get broken down and your body can't handle being intoxicated for that long as such. Its thought that taking the mdma first gives the worse results as its the stronger inhibiter."
mr blonde
"Well, keep in mind that MDMA is mostly excreted from your body unchanged, it doesn't get metabolized much. BZP though could probably be affected, whether it's dangerous or not I don't know. "
the extreme
David Urpeth, Assistant Deputy Coroner of Sheffield, England, said there is a “significant chance” that more deaths will occur from BZP, which is “a new drug and a cause for concern.” Urpeth said that BZP is not deadly on its own, as it is only about a tenth the strength of Ecstasy, but that it “appears to cause death in conjunction with Ecstasy.” And since it is much less potent than Ecstasy, it’s likely that most people will use BZP to enhance the experience of MDMA.
Just wondering if there is anyone else out there with a similiar experience with this horrible MDMA and BZP mixture and to possibley try and find out more as to the true cause of it..
I am particularly to know if anyone understands in more detail apossible theory as to the cause of this.
Is the CYP2D6 enzyme the actual cause?
Has anyone taken any meds and had success stories?
Whats your story?
Futura