Opioids Pregnant, oxys... Please please help

[M9o11u83se]

I am nearly 30 weeks pregnant & have very badly herniated discs. This pregnancy was not planned but very much wanted.
I am living in pain, day & night & now I've dug myself into a hole & I don't know what to do.
My prescriptions have been changing as my obstetrician & I have been trying to find what works.
I am also away at my parents at the moment- 2000km from home so that has it harder. I live in Australia by the way.
I am prescribed at the moment 30mg oxycontin 3x day + up to 4 10mg oxynorm for breakthrough pain. I regularly go over what I am supposed to have but then my ob has prescribed stronger ones so she doesn't really know I have used that much more, just that prescription isn't enough.
Before the 30's I was prescribed 40's. They were making me sick & I dropped them into a pharmacy so I wasn't tempted to use them.
Apparently there is no record of this?!?
I rang my ob today so she could fax a script of 20mg oxycontin as the 30s are still making me nauseous + I've run out.
She tried but the govt won't let her unless I took some of the others back to a pharmacy as they think I might be selling. I'm not, just icing too much, am addicted and fighting my inner demons everyday.
She rang the pharmacy & there is no record of my return.
I only have a few 10mg oxynorm a left. I will go into withdrawal tomorrow & I don't know what I should do.
I know I have done the wrong thing but trying to cope with pain is doing my head in.
I have so much guilt constantly & I know I can't go into withdrawal for the baby's sake.
My obstetrician is doing what she can but her hands are pretty much tied. I knew this would catch up with me & I can only blame myself.
The only thing I can think of is to go to the hospital but I don't know what to say or do...
I don't know what to do, any advice truly appreciated.

 

[hydr0m0rph]

you should have went thru withdrawal as soon as u found out u were pregnant..
now your baby will have to go thru withdrawals after birth. so u would prefer to let your baby suffer that pain? or are u planning to have the baby on methadone for its whole life?
i dont understand how people like u can breed.
in your whole post, i see 99% concern for yourself... and very little concern for your kid. at this point your pretty much fucked, as is your kid.
one thing you should feel as a parent is that you should be willing to take any kind of pain for your kid..
sorry if u think this is harsh, but raising a kid is not easy, and especially not as an addict.. so good luck..

 

[M9o11u83se]

That reply absolutely hurt me to the core which I guess was your goal.
My only concern is for my baby which is why I have not withdrawn. I have been under my drs care & to withdraw anytime during pregnancy is not good for baby.
I had an accident a year ago and was booked in for surgery when I found out I was pregnant.
My dr wants me on medication as my condition is severe. I would not be able to move an inch without painkillers. The stress from the pain would be worse for the baby by dr says and the baby will be well cared for in hospital when he is born. It's devastating to me but my dr has assured me the baby will be fine.
I have 3 older children already never even took a panadol & never had a coffee so my guilt here is extreme. I have never been addicted to anything & I just want to do the right thing for my baby.
I just wanted some advice but I guess I am absolute scum & don't deserve it.
Im bawling from your reply. I am a piece of shit

 

[M9o11u83se]

Please, I am begging for some advice. The above was not advice, it has certainly made me feel like I'm the worst person in the world. I knew that but what I have done is not intensional & I will forever regret it. I just don't know what to do now.

 

[Tinker55]

First and foremost, you aren't a POS. You are in a position where you need medical help-go see your OB and be honest about what you are taking. If you need to, get a referral to an OB where you are. If you can't see a doctor, go to the Emergency Room! It may not be pleasant and you will have to come clean, but the doctors there will understand that this is not just your addiction but the baby's as well.

I am unclear how much medication you actually have or when your script refill is scheduled. I'm not a medical professional and can't give you advice on pre-natal withdrawal but it seems to me you will need to stretch it out as long as possible. Can you cut down by at least 1/3?

 

[bonomoopiojo55]

Going thru withdrawl while pregnant is never ever recomnended, usually the doc will keep you and baby from that . Your best option come clean with doc ASAP so nothing terrible will happen, as desperate as you feel right now, your doc will steer you in right direction so as not to harm you or baby, but seriously what you said here needs to be said to the doc, asap

 

[DoesntLearn]

I would talk to your Dr again and make sure they know about what is going on and that you are out and about to start to WD. See what they say. No point in lieing to them because going into WD could possibly hurt your kid. If they can not help you then you should go to a hospital and tell someone there about what is going on and get help. I am almost positive that they will not let you go through WD as far along as you are because it can be dangerous to the kid. You could possibly be put on methadone like a few people i know. Im not sure how Aus handles stuff like that. I have a friend who was a heroin addict and after she got pregnant and told her Dr he put her on methadone so she wasnt shooting dope everyday.

And to this guy who made you feel like shit, he obviously doesnt know what the fuck he is talking about and he just wanted you to feel shitty or whatever because my friend who was an addict for years stayed on heroin for a bit while being pregnant then switched to methadone eventually and her kid came out perfectly fine with no WD's at all so dont go around making others feel bad with your assumptions. There is no need to be a dick, she is trying her best here and obviously wants the best for her kid, and concern for herself at this point IS concern for her kid because any stress or harm to her can be harmful to her kid while she is pregnant and that is what she is trying to avoid. Try giving advice next time instead of simply saying hurtful shit like telling her that her "kid is fucked" which is just plain mean and untrue.

This was obviously not your choice. You were put in this situation by the Dr's and you just need to get through this now. Im sure they wont let you go into WD while pregnant though because it can be harmful to the kid so like i said call your Dr and talk to him and if he cant help you then go to the hospital and talk to someone there and get help. Just tell your Dr that you are out and that you do NOT want to go through WD while pregnant because you heard it can be harmful. See what he says. I am no Dr but he is and im sure he will help you. Keep us updated. And after you give birth i hope you get the willpower to quit these evil opiates once and for all because they are fucking satan but ill be damned if i dont love it. A bit of hypocrisy i know. This is just what i would do and i am in no way a Dr, you can take my advice or wait and see what others say, but i think talking to your Dr and letting him know what is going on will only be beneficial. Goodluck and be safe!

 

[My3sons]

I definitely think you need to tell the truth about how much you're using for the baby's sake when he is born. He is going to need propper treatment and if you're lying about your use they will think his wd when born is less than it is. Imagine how he will suffer then. What do they do for babies in wd? Do they actually give them methadone and ween them?

 

[namnoc16]

you should have went thru withdrawal as soon as u found out u were pregnant..
now your baby will have to go thru withdrawals after birth. so u would prefer to let your baby suffer that pain? or are u planning to have the baby on methadone for its whole life?
i dont understand how people like u can breed.
in your whole post, i see 99% concern for yourself... and very little concern for your kid. at this point your pretty much fucked, as is your kid.
one thing you should feel as a parent is that you should be willing to take any kind of pain for your kid..
sorry if u think this is harsh, but raising a kid is not easy, and especially not as an addict.. so good luck..

Dude I know where you are coming from but whats done is done no need to lecture!
OP go to a hospital it's your only choice.You need to get well for you and your child. Please stop abusing and get well.Goodluck!

 

[when I dream]

As others have said, you need to go to a hospital or emergency room and be completely honest with them about your situation - they will help. If you truly want to do what is best for your child that really is your only option.

Good luck OP.

 

[Pretty_Diamonds]

Try to taper off so you don't go into full-on withdrawal. As your doc if she can give you anything since you think you are going to go into withdrawal soon... if she can give you anything to help taper off or deal with the w/d symptoms.

 

[P0kemama]

My3sons: I have watched a documentary where the newborn babies are given liquid morphine... the nurse had a little eye dropper to administer the dosage. They set up a tapering schedule and everything.... it showed the baby fussing more and more as s(he) got closer to its time to dose, and then how calm the baby got after receiving the morphine. I think it was filmed in New England someplace... however, the nurses seemed confident in the treatment for the baby and said that eventually the baby would be tapered totally off, and would not suffer at all... which I think is very encouraging.

As for judging OP.... I think not... who am I to judge another? As an addict who uses, at times, compulsively, with absolutely no intent on taking anything... this is a horrible experience to go through, and I believe OP loves this child... otherwise why would she even be getting pre natal care? It would be easy to just shot dope and go into denial.

M9: I think you are very brave... and I encourage you to do the right thing and fess up to the amount, so that the baby's morphine (if baby even has w/d) will be adjusted accordingly when born.

 

[BeachBum4u]

My3sons: I have watched a documentary where the newborn babies are given liquid morphine... the nurse had a little eye dropper to administer the dosage. They set up a tapering schedule and everything.... it showed the baby fussing more and more as s(he) got closer to its time to dose, and then how calm the baby got after receiving the morphine. I think it was filmed in New England someplace... however, the nurses seemed confident in the treatment for the baby and said that eventually the baby would be tapered totally off, and would not suffer at all... which I think is very encouraging.

I believe you are referring to a Drugs Inc. episode on the Heroin epidemic in Boston. I agree while it was sad to see such a predictable response to the baby's obvious need for the drug, in the end I was pretty assured everything would work out with minimal discomfort. This nurse repeatedly talked about minimized the baby's discomfort in her interviews. Sad situation but very grateful there are folks out there willing to work with these difficult situations. God Bless!

 

[Speed King]

I found this. The information gives some insight into opiate/opioid drugs and pregnancy. http://www.infantrisk.com/forum/for...y/analgesics-aa/1129-oxycodone-while-pregnant

 

[pluckstix]

Hey, back off? @ Hydr0m0rph


She's asking for HELP. Not your "fart in the wind comment" you just made.
She knows already and she's paying for it.. YOU have no idea what she's going thru. Just back up. ok?
Cheers.

 

[pluckstix]

As others have said, you need to go to a hospital or emergency room and be completely honest with them about your situation - they will help. If you truly want to do what is best for your child that really is your only option.

Good luck OP.

So I was using H and I was on a low dose of dome when I fell pregnant.
I found out from my doc and you also need to be honest with him/ her.
I'm reluctant to tell you the info he gave me... in MY situation, I was advised not to increase or decrease. That I "MIGHT" find that I would need more dome as bubs grew. So I followed his advice. I was also scared, but stupid. Like you. Meh. It's done, so it's done. Right?
Oh, so I ended up increasing but only like... 1.0ml per extra kilo added to my body. Lol. After that, I tapered down real quick and then off.
I kept in mind that I was effectively "feeding" my child, inutro and then after she was born.

Go see a professional. Either that, or admit yourself to hospital. I don't know anything other than you iced and oxied up too much for too long.... and you're pregnant. When you speak with a PROFESSIONAL, ask them what to expect. Ask everything. As much as you can think of.

It will calm you a bit. Trust me. I've been there. If shit goes wrong, you're gonna blame yourself even worse. So go. Hospital or a Doc. Keep us updated. Things have changed since I had my bubs, but maybe I can help with info, darling or lemme think.

 

[SKL]

Apparently the best thing to do is get on methadone maintenance immediately, and then taper down, even postpartum, as the methadone taper will then take effect for the neonate through the breast milk. YMMV though and this is not necessarily a practice that every OB/GYN or L&D ward is going to endorse. Obviously this is not something to do on your own but rather under the supervision of a professional.

standard disclaimer not medical advice etc.

 

[Opiephoric!.]

I agree with SKL, immediately get on maintenance of some sort. Methadone, buprenorphine, or diamorphine if you're in certain countries. But for your child and you, cold turkey could be more dangerous. Especially for the little one. It seems everyone has given you decent advice here, minus the first jackass who did nothing but insult. If it gets too physically intolerable for you, please go to the ER, your unborn child will thank you! Too much strain and withdrawal is harder on their little unborn bodies than our adult sized ones. It may seem like you should tough it out and maybe You can, but its not just You feeling it. To the baby, this is a new feeling to them, they've not experienced the real world yet so just think what you feel like is amplified by ten fold for the little one. Please take care and do what's best for the Little One!!

 

[M9o11u83se]

Thank you so much everyone for your replies- I really appreciate it xx


So today I rang my obstetrician & told her the truth, that I have been having slightly more than prescribed to deal with the pain & she was unable to prescribe me any more at this point. She was very nice but of course it's my fault that I'm in this position.
She said that she will see me Tuesday when I am back in my home town & we will go from there. She also said that there is absolutely no risk to the baby with me withdrawing. I find that so hard to believe as everything I have looked up online says NOT to withdraw while pregnant.
I have rang 2 more hospitals for 2nd opinion, first one agreed with her & the other I am waiting for a call back.
I also asked her if she could prescribe me methadone & she is not allowed to, only certain doctors can & she doesn't know of any in our town.


I went to the hospital & was there for over 5 hours. they gave me 5 10mg tablets & also put an alarm on my name for if I went anywhere else to try and get more, no one would be able to prescribe them for me until I am at home with my obstetrician. What a joke. No wonder people turn to illegal ways of getting pills. If I knew anywhere I could go just so I didn't have full blown withdrawals I would. I am so worried about the baby, I know I should believe these specialists but how can I when everything on the net says otherwise?
I have tried to find a drug treatment place but there are none in this area. Nor in my home town.
My pain is extreme, I can barely move & I have 2.5 days of driving to do in withdrawals. I've got 5 10mg tablets to get me to Tuesday I know it's going to be hell. The last time I had withdrawals I was only on a third of what I am now & that was terrible but I wasn't pregnant then so I didn't have to worry.
I feel so disheartened & really don't know what to do next.

 

[Gigaslave14]

you should have went thru withdrawal as soon as u found out u were pregnant..
now your baby will have to go thru withdrawals after birth. so u would prefer to let your baby suffer that pain? or are u planning to have the baby on methadone for its whole life?
i dont understand how people like u can breed.
in your whole post, i see 99% concern for yourself... and very little concern for your kid. at this point your pretty much fucked, as is your kid.
one thing you should feel as a parent is that you should be willing to take any kind of pain for your kid..
sorry if u think this is harsh, but raising a kid is not easy, and especially not as an addict.. so good luck..

What? You think just because the baby is still inside her it won't go through the pain of withdrawals? Your ignorance is showing. A pregnant woman should NEVER go through withdraws as it can and will set off pre term labor and the experience will be miserable for the baby.

Being in in chronic pain is bad enough but dealing with it while pregnant? Most people can't cope. Pregnancy hurts. At least it did for me. Adding chronic pain on top of it is just tourture. Sure the circumstances aren't the best but like she said the pregnancy was t planned but once it's done that's it. If she wants to keep it, getting off meds cold turkey at the beginning would have been the worst thing to do.