Hello and an MDPV Question

It was completely the opposite to the white I had been using like I said I felt the anxiety cloud being lifted as the effects came on. You might be right about the binge I've been on and how it effected it but the main point I need to get across is it was a completely different high to the white. For me I'm happy that I can get this to where I want, not saying I'm disappointed, it was a brilliant buzz, and for a while I thought I'd cracked it first time, but I also was looking for the sexual side of things.

Like I said before I wish I'd gambled more and had a bit more confidence to have a few attempts.
 
Indeed. Sounds like a work in progress but definitely seems like the only real progress made by somebody nobody thinks is an alt. Suggests to me that there may well be something to this process. But it appears I'm easily led on the matter...
 
Except he wasn't taking diazepam (unless he forgot to mention it) and had been binging on white peev before using whatever it was he made. Maybe he managed to accidentally synth some new benzo instead ;)
 
Shambles said:
Indeed. Sounds like a work in progress but definitely seems like the only real progress made by somebody nobody thinks is an alt. Suggests to me that there may well be something to this process. But it appears I'm easily led on the matter...
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I am too, I really wanted this to be real, now I know that its more attainable than I ever imagined.
The only way you'll really know however is when you have a go yourself.
 
And I will be just as soon as I can actually find some white peevee with any peevee in it. Vendors are really taking the piss recently. At least all mine have been :\

More Google-bothering and cash-wasting for me for now but when I strike white (fool's) gold I'll be processing my lil backside off ;)
 
I mean the high, although the Diaz does not take away the sexual effects.

Seriously, just get some Diaz / GBL and save yourself the conversion efforts :D
 
Problem is that white peev has virtually zero aphrodisiacal effect. Certainly not even 1% of what tan did. Although I must admit I'd be more than happy with summat that had the tan effects profile even if it lacked the sexytime effects. But would rather the whole shebang. Emphasis on both the "she" and "bang" parts =D
 
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Also my appetite went through the roof and eating anything became quite euphoric and gratifying. The uplifting subtle euphoria lasted for a maximum of 3 hours if that and quietly left.
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I posted at length about uncontrolled appetite in post #194. I know exactly what you did. You created what I call Tan Minus. It's the exact Tan euphoria without the Tan hypersexuality. Don't know what the fuck it is or how it's chemically different from Tan, but I do know how to create it. I accidentally made it early on in my experimentation, and have duplicated it dozens of times since. I don't care for it by the way. I'm not at all into the euphoria. I'm only interested in the prosexuality. What I was hoping someone would do is stumble onto the reverse of Tan Minus.

The other difference between Tan and an Minus is that Tan suppresses appetite for a week or so of continued use and then unaccountably increases appetite enormously if you continue to use it daily (see post 194). Tan Minus creates the hyperhunger immediately.

Anyway, to make Tan Minus you double the bicarb quantity and follow the quick and dirty technique up to the point that all of the yellow-green PV freebase oil is gone and the dark yellow oil has precipitated to the bottom. Then, instead of cooling and dispensing into a dish, you continue to heat without agitating for 8 to ten hours. The dark yellow oil will slowly change it texture (best word I can describe). The color remains constant but it begins to change from an oil slick shape into an almost organic shape - uneven filaments extending out beyond the oil slick puddle at the bottom. When the filaments stop growing, decant it and continue with the quick and dirty as if you hadn't added this step. Again, the substance doesn't interest me so I never attempted to find a way to purify it like I did with the Tan.

As Ben has reported, the euphoria of Tan Minus is as extreme as the Tan euphoria. The vision thing happens with both substances at higher doses. The prior PV use may also have contributed. Very high doses of Tan bring on hallucinations, not unpleasant usually, but definitely disturbing if you're having sex at the time. The other characteristic of both Tan and Tan Minus that Ben reported is that it immediately stops the tweaking created by extended PV use. The strung out feeling completely disappears and is replaced by an astonishing calm. Unfortunately, when it wears off, the PV buzz reappears, as Ben may already have discovered.

Good work Ben. The fact that I didn't get your same results following your approach is certainly due to temperature differences which I'll look into.
 
All the above rings true with what I experienced, also the yellow oil was left to heat through circumstance. Thanks, now I know what to avoid in future. One thing that did really surprise me was the visual side, colours seemed to brighten and take on character out the corner of my eye drawing my attention, my depth perception for a little while was really messed up something I'd never experienced before on pv be it white or tan. I never experienced any hallucinations as such thankfully and once the effects wore off I slept without effort soundly for the first time in over a week.

I think the reason you didn't get the same results were due to the timescale involved, when you mentioned continued heated after the egg yolk oil is formed that really rung a bell because I had to leave it unchecked for a period of time after that stage.
 
Yes, the visual effects of higher Tan doses are remarkable, and, for me, one of the few aspects of the euphoria that I find enjoyable. The depth perception problems occur at really high doses. I don't know how much you took, but the dosage may have been influenced by the prior Pv use.

The sleeping soundly after the effects wear off is probably the greatest difference between Tan (or Tan Minus) and PV. Everyone always sleeps soundly after the effects wear off, even at super high doses (not recommended).

As to the differences between our results - I'm pretty good at avoiding making Tan Minus. If filaments begin to appear, I throw the mix away.
 
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Most promising post so far, I'd say. The lack of anxiety, lightness and tinglyrushy Goodness definitely sound like it's heading toward tan territory to me. Perhaps the prior use of white peev recently diminished some of the effects too? Not sure how heavily you'd been using the white but it was fairly recent use I think? Pretty sure that would affect things somewhat. Keep us posted (or not if you go with the paranoia stuff) cos it's sounding like the right track has been found to me from what you say there :)
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Yes, PV definitely reduces the effects of Tan. One of the early problems was unconverted PV in the solution. If the PV/Tan ratio is high enough, the Tan effects can barely be perceived over the roar of the PV. Tan is a very subtle substance. The smooth euphoria can be overlooked at first because of the other effects that are occurring (erotic energy couple with dead calm, for example - an odd and startling feeling), or the hypersexuality can be overpowered by the sensation of weightlessnes, or the visual effects that Ben reported. Depends on the mental condition and prior drug experience of the user. PV, on the other hand, is anything but subtle. So if PV is added to the mix in high enough percentages, weird shit happens.
 
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I believe most who try it end up trying to fuck cats. Far riskier than trying to fuck dogs due to the claws. So I hear.
 
Just when I thought it was dying...

...this fascinating thread moves to a whole new level of intrigue and awesomeness.

I can't be the only one who has read the Fast Company article (http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/145/fantasy-island.html) and noted the reference to Quorumex focusing on developing a female viagra.

"Adonizio has one last surprise for me. Three months before I arrived, she says, McAfee had a brainstorm: What if they went looking for an herbal compound that would bolster the female libido? The potential market could be huge -- a distaff corollary to Viagra. And with that, libido-boosting herbs had become a second priority."​

How many references in that article and this Gizmodo one (http://gizmodo.com/#!5569746/from-antivirus-to-antibiotics-mcafee-searches-for-a-last-cure) are there to "trickster" and even "sock puppetry" are there??

SM must be pretty secure in his job at Quorumex to out himself on a public forum as using the company lab to develop/perfect an illicit* drug. I know I wouldn't feel that secure unless I owned the company or had permission (implicit or otherwise) from the owner.

* I'm using illicit here not as a synonym for illegal but rather to mean "not approved by common custom, rule or standard".
 
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The Gizmodo article didn't work for me but the "Female Viagra" thing is interesting. Claims made for hypersexuality have focussed on the effects on fellas so far but peev definitely works on ladygirls too in that way (even the white stuff if they're not familiar with tan) and would be interested to hear more from the gals.

Oddly, or perhaps not, the member who created an alt (I think?) called "Sockpuppet" to post here was firmly in the "It's all just shilling" camp. And definitely nothing to do with Stuff going by the brief PM communication we had.
 
minging said:
SM must be pretty secure in his job at Quorumex to out himself on a public forum as using the company lab to develop/perfect an illicit* drug. I know I wouldn't feel that secure unless I owned the company or had permission (implicit or otherwise) from the owner.
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I have photos of the boss fucking dogs in my safe at home. I think my job is secure.
 
Shambles said:
The Gizmodo article didn't work for me but the "Female Viagra" thing is interesting. Claims made for hypersexuality have focussed on the effects on fellas so far but peev definitely works on ladygirls too in that way (even the white stuff if they're not familiar with tan) and would be interested to hear more from the gals.
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Check out the comment from Jeff Wise (the author of the Fast Company piece) (comment #21) here: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/21/lawsuit-plagued-mcaf.html
 
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