Loads of Red Defqon discussion over the last few pages, ToL.
My personal experience with 'em has been kinda meh so far. Pretty sure I was being a bit overly cautious as I stuck to thirds all the way and, aside from a pretty frikkin full-on come-up, the rest of the night just plodded along never really going anywhere. Given the consistently rave reviews from people who know of which they speak I don't doubt the pills so much as maybe overestimating them just a wee bit.
Underestimating them also seems a very bad idea by all reports so I reckon at least a half - maybe 2/3 for the tolerant or very keen - should be the sweet-spot.
Rightly so to be cautious. As stated before there are now several official test centre reports over the last 5 months to show clean but dosage has been varying from a whopping 240+ down to 147. 200 mg seems to be the average. Irresponsible pressing if this is the case and likely later will be lower but impossible to tell what u have
For me 2/3 was great, could of taken a whole but 2/3 was totally controllable and no heavy feelings or nausea. 1/3 I'd of been meh. Even at 240 you'll only be on 80 and for me that probably wouldn't even give an alert.
For me I certainly have to get that first drop right. I can get stuck in the never getting there. Not sure if it's just me but it always happens if I do go low even when I try to ignite shit by going heavier on the redose.
Presume I got a mid mg defqon as my sweet spot is 130 - 150 redose + 1 at 60 to 90. That's based on 84% EC tested crystal.
As Bella stated redose at around + 1 literally as you start to feel the intensity of the first drop is the best way to extend the peak. You do feel redose come on no doubt for me but it just adds to the good feeling rather than becoming to much. Redose also generally gives an extra hr in the zone for me without increasing the overall intensity of the peak high. And yep sorry Stee total waste to be multi dosing all night long. MD doesn't deliver that way. One shot and redose on the come up that's all you get, then it just becomes amphet and or trippy and or monger with limited euphoria empathy etc. Of course it varies for everyone and I guess some have big fresh young brains bursting full of bags of serotonin.
Always find if I aim under 250 but above 130 per experience it delivers in all ways without negatives. I no longer bother trying to chase a 3rd drop. I've learnt it's a waste brings in more negatives especially on comedown and ruins my vibe. MD for me is a 4 to 6 hour window which I can never extend. Took me awhile to realise it but now I know what my body and brain agrees with it makes experiences so much easier to plan and enjoy.
It does Piss me right off that club culture has changed to extended hours running till 6 am and why the hell put a headliner on at anywhere after 3am is just plain dumb. It's really forcing the issue of multi drops. Totally out of sync. If i got back into the night game I'd be opening doors at 10.30 have the headliners on between 12 - 3 and be thinking about closing up at 4. Yeh party pooper but good HR if I was running a club and was thinking about how people will be using my club.
I'd place myself as medium on the scale of tolerance plus I'm 6"2 and mistaken for a rugby player. Use 1 month minimum wait but regularly it's more like 2 to 3 months between experiences.
Hope that's of help to finding yours ?
On behalf of ecstasy airlines enjoy your flight. Taking you higher for longer.
