RCs alpha-PHP , a-php - Has anyone got any information?

[JfM]

I read about snorters and vapers being disappointed. Well, that sucks cause php IV is THE BOMB LoL.
Seriously, especially the crystal form. I like it better than pvp and mdpv with that ROA. Just sayin
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[NeuroDr]

This drug, a-php, has got to be hands down the most pussy stimulant drug ever. I could funnel this down my throat by the kilo.

I am going to time the duration of the different ROAs and finish this thread with solid facts on first hand experience of the drug.

I personally don't enjoy stimulants much but i do enjoy trying new things whether or not I expect to enjoy them. I've tried eph, mdpv, various cathinones, and a lot of empathogenic stimulants and I have to say, aPHP is hands down my favorite. Granted I vaporize which provide a HUGS dopamine rush on par with allowing me to nod off almost in pure ecstasy. Not overly stimulating, doesn't last long, perfect for my needs. Tolerance does build and can use more than a day in s row if that befor you lose that initial rushes usually it's that first incredible rush and then maintains an nice pleasant very euphoric stimulation. But that first rush. Just rocks my world.
Good thing i could never use needles or this may have s been another problem on par with heroin. 2 years clean opiates no looking back. But much prefer php to mdpv bc mdpv gives me no euphoria, just straight energy, almost usually overwhelmingly so.
So that's my 2 $.02 works wonders for me. So far no compulsion to not use when I shouldn't ...know yourself though. And happy trials ?

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

I read about snorters and vapers being disappointed. Well, that sucks cause php IV is THE BOMB LoL.
Seriously, especially the crystal form. I like it better than pvp and mdpv with that ROA. Just sayin
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No one, if disappointed with those ROAs should try IVing this chemical.

Eventually you'll be disappointed when either all your veins are collapsed or you have a stroke.

 

[PartiersParadise]

Got 2 grams, big orange moonrocks of a-PHP. After telling myself how responsible I'd be and that I'd only dose when necessary like for when I'm tired or need to get work done. Needless to say, I ended up awake for one week straight with barely any food, threatened to kill my dad for asking what I was on, then ran miles down the road in my pajamas in 90 degree weather, idk how I didn't die or pass out, my shirt smelt like that nasty typical pyrrolide scent you may recognize from other similar pv compounds. The cops were called by my dad telling them I was smoking bath salts and I waa let go because I seemed fine and they let me leave with friends, I honestly thought this might have been more forgiving than a-PVP but nope. Also the methylenedioxy version of this (MDPHP) has known to destroy muscle tissue and ever since I used a-PHP, which was over a month ago, my body has been sore especially the muscles in my legs, I never have body pain either so just be careful, this shit could be as bad or worse than MDPHP in terms of toxicity.

Also anyone notice a-PVP, a-PHP etc are getting more popular like in Florida being sold as "Gravel", I told one of my ice dealers I had a-PHP and he was begging me to throw it away saying he's seen someone he knew that started using it and made them a mess and that their flesh was rotting away from using Gravel, I've never heard of a-PVP causing such dangerous effects outside of media bullshit. There must be some extremely impure toxic pyrovalerone chemicals being sold on the street these days.

Personally after an ER visit from MDPV years ago, family issues from my drug use, irresponsibility, addictive nature and that last a-PHP insane nightmare, I am done fucking with these chemicals. Even when I used them properly at low doses, extreme anxiety, paranoia, and panic attacks would occur after 20 minutes of enjoyable effects. a-PHP would have me unable to catch my breath most of the time while on it. I'd take a hit of it from my meth pipe and have to lay down for 2 minutes to catch my breath. I know my dosing wasn't the issue, I've used MDPV when I was 14 years old, tried replacements over the years, and knew everything about these chemicals and how bad too high of a dose will twack you out. My friend agreed that one hit instantly gave breathing problems. My advice? Stay away from the pyrrolidemons. Stick to reliable friendly methamphetamine if you're a frequent stim user. I only used these horrible chemicals because of how cheap they are, and I became addicted to how intense the sex drive is, I'd stay up forever just watching porn or fucking my girl all night from how that shit could turn me into a pornstar lol, MOST of you pv users can relate. Stay safe with this kinda shit, it WILL make you it's bitch when you think you're in control.

 

[chase_in_56ace]

Can confirm Florida is completely awash with a-pvp and other dangerously impure related compounds. This shit is destroying lives and is cheaper than a pack of cigs on the street.

I now live in Broward, and here we have a BSO task force called the "flakka squad." (flakka/gravel = a pvp here) they are ruthless and will have u pulled out of ur socks in three seconds if you get caught leaving a known area. I'm telling you guys, as surprised as I am to say this... Most of the side effects of prolonged abuse are not media hype. I was able to shoot some and only did it once. The comedown was atrocious and even after the heroin wore off I still had that unmotivated, suicidal ideation that no other comedown from a drug can induce.

 

[InterestingFACT]

http://www.vice.com/read/behind-the...kka-is-causing-real-damage-in-fort-lauderdale

"As is the case with many drugs sold on the street, the people who take flakka often don't know exactly what they're smoking, snorting, or injecting. The labs that create these compounds are often attempting to modify chemicals in order to get around the DEA's list of banned substances said Broward Sheriff's Office spokesperson Gina Carter. "In order to skirt the system, dealers alter the molecular structure by adding other substances to it," Carter said. "It could be anything, which means no one really knows what users are ingesting or how their body will react to it."
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Lol. As if dealers are doing home chemistry to alter a-pvp into something legal. At least vice interpreted what she said into a partially comprehensible statement.

It's interesting to me that a-pvp is being touted as "flakka" rather than just "bath salts."

 

[bree5126]

Yeah i can vouch for this. Just got some a-php and have been using iv ROA from the start, and now im almost at the end of my gram so i did what i normally do for other stims, double the last dose because otherwise i didn't think i would even feel it. But that was a huge mistake! I started to hallucinate almost instantly. and i more than felt it. i've been eyeballing doses all night but i would probably say my last shot was around 100mg or so. Which is way too much at any stage of using this drug. It went away in like 20 minutes, but it was fucking intense man. I saw moths crawling around on my floor and when i turned on the lights to investigate further, they were just peices of cotten, and than they stopped moving. So i turned off the lights again and went to my cpu to write this lol. This drug is by far not one of my fav's. I got a g of EPH a few days ago and it was 100x better.

 

[TMNPothead]

I can confirm the vapor hallucinations coming off just about everything. crazy stuff

 

[klais]

Reagent testing for a-PHP?

What would be the proper reagent test for a-PHP?
Would it be the Marquis reagent turning yellow, as it would for MDPV and other pyrovalerones?

 

[Mr.Dosed2Hard]

So this will be my first post here at bluelight. I've never been one to post on any of the forums but I truly feel that this is needed information regarding Alpha-PHP and the adverse health issues that have arose over my past 3 and a half week vapor binge of 5 grams crystal.

This compound has been the least harsh to handle for me as for re-dosing, I don't feel I absolutely must but just want to. Secondly I've found it to be the least of the other cathinone analogues to produce euphoria in the way such chemicals as MDPV or A-PVP have in my past 3 years of research with this specific group of rc's. I'm confident that this one is the cleanest and easiest to handle when it comes to social anxiety or anxiety in general. However, I do have some issues that I have found nowhere else in any forum, study (Government, Pharm, etc.), or any other source.

I'll explain this with the full story from day 1 to this very moment I am sitting here in my floor typing this taking occasional breaks to vape the substance. This will be my last night of experimentation with this substance and in no way condone nor do I suggest trying it in any form of consumption on humans. This research was gathered for long term binge, at mild doses, via vaporization to see if any adverse problems arose.

BEFORE EXPERIMENT STATISTICS
Info/stats test subject: Myself
Weight: 55.791 kg's
Height: 6 ft 1 inch's
Age: 19
Health issues: None
Smoker/Drinker: Yes

Day 1: Received my first pure batch of A-PHP with 5g's present in the package. ALL CRYSTAL. All I could think was fuck yes. This shits bout to be the cats potatoes son!!!! I had used MDPV before as well as PVP crystal and powder and PVP PHP mixture powder but never straight crystal only PHP. I ate a few things before cause I knew I would be binging, and eating after that was out the door till the next day when I needed a tolerance break for a few hours. I began my first dose without scaling which I have never done with any of cathinone an's when it came down to vaping. Just throw in a crystal and go at it. My vape method was both foil and a glass rose (Meth pipe, chillay, bulb pip, oil burner) but more the pipe then anything. Just a cleaner taste and easier cleanup. Anyways first hit. INSTANT NAUSEA!! The feeling took me back but the taste took my stomach back to the highschool locker-room. Just disgusting but sure enough I was hooked to that taste after the first rip.
(STOPPED FOR VAP HIT)
I had told some friends I was getting it and wanted them to try it so they came over and each took a hit hating it and saying it had a repulsive scent making me and my home smell of bleach filled sweaty socks. They left and I continued to re-dose sitting in my floor in this exact spot I am now listening to music taking the occasional cigarette break or restroom break. So we can go ahead and skip the next 20 days cause that is literally all I did. I managed maybe about 72 hours of sleep in that time and at least one meal or half a meal a day with lots of fluids being consumed. As for the paranoia or hallucinations I am very used to it from the others so I just ignore it and put all my things away in my safe before lying down at night, taking a short break to go somewhere, or whatever I must do.
(VAPED AGAIN)
So the timing was perfect because I had been laid off from my job for almost 3 weeks but had a large investment that I had made so money was no issue and plenty of time to just do research and take notes but then the break was over when they called the night before and told me that I would be back in for a job the very next day..... I was in no condition to make it to work but I just slept for 2 hours the night before and took my pipe to work vaping only when things got to be too much including audio hallucination, strange glimmering in eyes, and paranoia I would go vape in the bathroom for a quick jolt back. It's very stressful as well because it's hundreds of people and 1 bathroom to vape in inside a military plant....
(STOPPED TO VAPE)
I got through my 9 hour shift without much of a problem just listening to music through my headphones doing paperwork and occasionally having to talk with the clientele visitors looking to invest in the various products as well as tour the facilities production floor but luckily it was the slowest day I've had since I started last year. Got home and vaped every 10 minutes till work was a mere hour away so I got ready took my vape and headed in.
(STOPPED TO VAPE)

This is when my first real issues began to arise with this compound after a full blown 23 day binge of constant vape re-dosing. I made it to work just fine only 3 minutes past time I needed to be there. No biggie. But then get this shit guys and gals. The only one bathroom is being re-tiled and is blocked off with a sign saying "NO ENTRY". Naturally I thought okie dokie well guess they won't have work since it's down. WRONG!!! A state owned building about 40 yards away from ours that handles multiple things from elective junk, building permits, and something I'm on which is probation offered to let use their restrooms as needed to keep work up and flowing..... Needless to say I made it about an hour before I started getting withdrawal symptoms I've had before with nicotine or alcohol. These include sweating, bi-polar like mood swings, constant bowel movements, dry mouth, headache, and restlessness. I told my boss I wasn't well and would be using PTO time for the rest of the day. Got home and instantly scurried to my room to vape down on the substance in huge amounts until satisfied for the remainder of that day until around 1 in the morning deciding to get at least a few hours of sleep since I was off for the next couple days.

Day 24:
(STOPPED TO VAPE AND SMOKE CIG)
I slept till around 4 the next evening surprised at how long I had actually slept. Made some food and ate a good bit since sobriety was something that I hadn't had in awhile and felt very relieving. After I vaped for the remainder of the day until around 11 that night when literally all of a sudden out of nowhere a very sharp tight pain started in my upper right pectoral through my shoulder into my back that left me very short of breath, coughing, and in rather excruciating pain. The pain was there regardless of my body position or any other factor but would be much more prevalent whilst breathing deeply, coughing, or drinking liquids of any kind. I kept vaping but at a rate of every 45 minutes as oppose to every 5-10 but didn't get neither worse nor any better. I also felt a small bit of bubbling like feeling in the area. Like if you were to see a bunch of air bubble in a bottle of soda. I decided to sleep it off that it was nothing to sweat around 1 this morning. I slept until 7 this evening and felt so awful that I thought I couldn't get out of bed. As I stood up I noticed my condition had gotten almost 10 times as bad with even more symptoms arising. These include with all at the time shortness of breath, heart palpitations, tightness, excruciating pain from upper pec. into shoulder through the upper back and lower neck. Headache, wheezing, bubbling I spoke of more common, mucus buildup being expelled upon cough, tiny black/brown particles in expelled mucus, and difficulty exhaling/inhaling completely. I took some medications for these symptoms but have had no relief or improvement at this time. I am currently sitting in my floor typing this up to warn of this adverse issue that may have developed from the substance. The only relief I have gotten is from vaping more A-PHP that seems to make almost all the issues virtually not there other than slight pain and shortness of breath......

I'm so confused about what could be happening with my right lung or if it's my lung at all but I am considering more than not of going to the ER in the next few hours if it persists to worsen or other problems arise. I couldn't breath for 45 seconds at one point from choking on mucus that would be expelled but get stuck and re-inhaled when I tried to catch a breath kinda making a paradox if you catch my drift......

Any advice or anybody that can relate would be appreciated. I have work again tomorrow and I'm so worried if I'll make it till tomorrow with the breathing problems I'm experiencing.

 

[beniceman]

Wow. I'd go to the ER or at least see a doctor about it.

How much did you smoke on average?

 

[Zerwas]

That sounds absolutely terrifying. I second going to the ER immediately and definitely stop using these in my opinion nearly instant life-ruining substances.
It's like a crack addiction with no boundaries regarding money and supply.
I know it is much more easy to say than actually do it but you are still young and have your whole life in front of you.
So if rehab is an option, please consider it.

I wish you all the best.

Z

 

[Mr.Dosed2Hard]

So..... Day 25 or 26 I'm not 100% now that I look back but either way the symptoms listed in just a moment are the current ongoing that are happening as of this moment.
Sobriety per say I guess. I've built a tolerance even at my light weight that it takes crystals about the size of a pinky nail jammed into an oil burner and vaped over an 1-3 hour period to sustain any kind of stimulation.

Positive symptoms:
Hmmm good question?? After long term binge consumption almost all positives are virtually gone other than satisfaction of re-dose brought on by the problems it's causing in the first place. Hell of a paradox if one isn't aware of the loop they are in.

Nuetral:
Mild energy boost for periods of around 10-15 minutes

Negative:
Difficulty breathing
Difficulty functioning mechanically
Social anxiety/awkwardness
Unwanted or overwhealming self-awareness
Symptoms of mild heart attacks
Numbness in legs, arms, feet, etc.
Sharp/stabbing pain in upper right chest, back, shoulder, neck
Pressure or tightness in all listed above
Clicking of heart against something... Feels like my heart is the spokes of a bike and whatever it's hitting is a card... ??
Sweating and fever
Paranoia if allowed
Dry cough accompanied by sharp pain in upper right side of chest
Burning sensation in legs (Rare)
Mucus buildup in throat (Brown in color)
Loss of breath
Shortness of breath
Forgetting to breath
Pauses due to uncontrollable breathing pattern
THAAA SHIIIIITTTTZZZZZZZZZ or Diarrhea
Gas buildup
Fatigue
Auditory and Visual hallucinations (Not an issue for me to rid myself of)
Heart palpitations
Irregular heartbeat

I feel there is more but you get the idea I'm sure. However, I must say that my Blood pressure was at an outstanding 125/76 and beats per minute at 107 taken about an hour ago. I currently have more than I need left of this I must say almost useless chemical to put myself out forever if I was a complete uncontrolled fiend of a user but it was just an experiment and although I did plan to visit the doctor this evening after work (which went well actually) I decided I'd rather not sit in a room for possibly 4 hours (which is the usual time) and die, I'd rather do it in the comfort of my own home. That was a serious statement but in all reality if it gets to a point of imminent permanent damage or fatal I have some friends over who have now as I am letting them, (since this experiment is over) take them from me and dispose of them properly as well as monitor my health until cleared by a physician tomorrow evening. I have no want or drive to further my use. It is the same result every time regardless. Either death, injury, or insanity for those who forever chase the high.

Soooooooooooo..... I will be going to the doctor tomorrow and will give a full diagnosis with x-rays hopefully and all to show just how damaging and dangerous this RC can truly be on the body when abused long term even if your at the ripe age of 19.

Thank you,
PM me any question or reply here,
JUST DON'T WORRY!!!
Cya on the morrow!

 

[Mr.Dosed2Hard]

As for how much I can't say honestly. No approximations were made whilst going into the full binge. I was just dropping 2-5 rocks around the size of a bb for awhile then began just cramming it into my oil burner with rocks 3 to 5 times that size. It got out of hand very quickly without a monitor to stop me this time around (as requested by myself). I can tell you though to prevent rubbing my thumb skin off I used a candle and just held the gas of a lighter to the flame but eventually was dropping rocks everywhere and on occasion would mix a small bit of rocks and wax that I had carved out (for whatever reason I'm not sure of) together and ruin a whole bulbs worth. Took me awhile to notice what was happening first time around. Felt my nose getting stiff and then plucked out some hardened waxy booger berries. Rather disgusting and not pleasant. Just figured it started tasting better. MAN WAS I WRONG HA!

 

[cousinskeeter]

Can confirm Florida is completely awash with a-pvp and other dangerously impure related compounds. This shit is destroying lives and is cheaper than a pack of cigs on the street.

I now live in Broward, and here we have a BSO task force called the "flakka squad." (flakka/gravel = a pvp here) they are ruthless and will have u pulled out of ur socks in three seconds if you get caught leaving a known area. I'm telling you guys, as surprised as I am to say this... Most of the side effects of prolonged abuse are not media hype. I was able to shoot some and only did it once. The comedown was atrocious and even after the heroin wore off I still had that unmotivated, suicidal ideation that no other comedown from a drug can induce.

It was only a matter of time. I seriously hope.... hope to god they can get this stuff under control and it doesn't spread. Meth aint shit compared to a-PVP in my opinion. Even MDPV aint shit compared to a-PVP in terms of self destructiveness. I've used and abused just about every drug and every class of drug out there, both 'legal' and illegal. a-PVP is by far the strongest drug I have ever used. Not only is it the strongest, it is (for lack of a better word) the most dark and evil. After a day or two of meth use, you might start acting a little mean-hearted. After a day or two of a-PVP, I was ready to rob senior citizens for pocket change simply for the fun of it.

Obviously personal control, and personal variables play a huge role, and I won't lie and try to completely blame the drug for my poor decisions. But shhiiiieeeeet! Honestly, I am still fucking up daily, just luckily no longer with a-PVP/MDPV. Baby steps. I was seriously screwed up in the head for a solid 4 months. At one point there was a few days where I was convinced I had solved the physics problems between Einsteins relativity and Quantum physics. After 4 days no sleep I was hearing the radio come out of my lamp, and an opera coming out of my ceiling fan. :D

a-PHP was underwhelming, and had a ceiling that was super easy to hit. It didn't even hold a candle to MDPV or a-PVP.... but maybe that is a good thing haha.

Alcohol and weed for me nowadays.

 

[Jabberwocky]

25 days on the shit? Very moreish tho even when the paranoia kicks u still want more

 

[3dempty]

Big site pulled A-php due to cyanide in crystals and insect lava.tpr

 

[Jabberwocky]

Insect lava can be vaped? What's cyanide taste like

 

[lolwhatzdrugs]

insect lava what? lol

If you are ingesting insect lava, best to titrate down before it solidifies inside your noggin

 

[Jabberwocky]

I can feel something like insects crawling.in.my skin I'm always scratching at my skin. So that's what they put in meth then