Anorexia

[pLur4eVer<33]

PLEASE dont comment telling me how anorexia is horrible and blahblah because its a personal choice.

So ive tried pretty much every diet, and seeing how i play soccer and go runnings 6x a week minimum, you would think that i should have lost wieght by now. So i decided to ask around and one of my verry shmexi friends said that she just didnt eat. she said occasionally she'd eat a protein bar and whenever she got hungry she'd just drink green tea because its an appetite suppressant and it speeds up metabolism.

seeing as how im going through an incredibley fucked up time right now, food is the last thing on my mind so i think ill have no problem with this diet.

So to the main questions-

-Is anyone here anorexic?

-if so, do you eat breakfast?

-have you heard of the green tea thing? sounds sketchy to me.

-And has this worked for you? i feel like id just end up gaining wieght but, looking at this girl who recomended it for me, it might be just what im looking for.

BTW im not looking to gain muscle, if anything id like to lose muscle because ive got huge calfs and thunder thighs. im 16 years old, 159lbs.

if this doesnt work to be honest ill probably just go back to a high-carb diet and just use stimulants 2x a week -__- sorry if this is the most pathetic post youve read so far but im having the worst week and my chub is NAHT helping

 

[kace]

no, i'm not anorexic. i used to have very fucked up eating patterns, started off with restricting calories but then it sort of took over my life and i became bulimic. it was hell. and i wouldn't wish it on anyone. i know you don't want a lecture, but anorexia isn't a diet or some shit!

you can easily lose weight without getting tips from eating disorders people.

breakfast is the most important meal of the day! eat a good breakfast, a small lunch and dinner and excerise daily if you want to lose weight. also, green tea is good, it helps with your digestion, raises your metabolic rate, etc, but tastes pretty funky.

 

[Jblazingphoenix100]

I'm not anorexic, just annoyingly skinny.

I have a quick metabolism, and therefore try to cut out stims, ganja if I can't eat a ton after, and spicey food ( ) because it speeds it up.

Breakfast IS the most important meal of the day - it's good to have a big one. Skipping it is dumb as it set you up for the whole day if you have say fruit and some complex carbs in you...

THe green tea thing sounds erm...unhealthy - eat right, and just graze throughout the day if you don't wanna put any weight on.

Lots of fruit and veg is good.

I wouldn't do what your friend is doing - she sounds like she's a bit naive, and foolish.




Could you post a picture?

 

[belarki]

Hi pLur4eVer3! (you username sucks to type out by the way )

As kace mentioned eating disorders are HELL! Serious, insidious, soul-destroying hell. You are only 16 years old, now is a perfect time to start on a healthy diet and lifestyle. There are much healthier ways to lose weight & I'm pretty sure there's a weight loss thread here in healthy living already.

A couple of quick points though:
* Forget any notion of gaining muscle being bad for you. Females benefit from resistance training (weights) just as much as males. You're female right? Gaining lean muscle mass will increase your resting metabolic rate (you burn more energy) & improve your health in innumerous ways. You won't get noticeably huge and muscley for a couple of reasons. One it's bloody hard work, bodybuilders spend years getting ripped, and two you're lacking a little hormone called testosterone.
* A high carb diet and stimulants is the last thing you should be doing. Eat a balanced diet with a focus on fruit, vegetables and lean meat (unless you're vegetarian/vegan). Avoid processed carbs & sugars. A good macro-nutrient split might look something like 40/40/20 (carbs/protein/fat) - note you want to avoid certain types of fat though.
* Green tea is great for you

Perhaps check out this thread if you are in need of support or send me a pm? Eating disorders support thread v.2

 

[n3ophy7e]

seeing as how im going through an incredibley fucked up time right now, food is the last thing on my mind so i think ill have no problem with this diet.

So to the main questions-

-Is anyone here anorexic?

Hi hun, I have been suffering on and off with various eating disorders my entire adult life. Actively choosing anorexia is playing a really dangerous game. At first you might lose a bit of weight, and you might feel a bit better about yourself. But pretty soon you could easily become completely obsessed with your appearance and your weight, and with food. This obsession takes over your every waking moment, you're constantly worrying about calories, you believe that you look disgusting and you feel even worse. Your body wants food but your mind is forever playing this awful battle with itself to fight the hunger. Depression takes over as you convince yourself that you're hideously fat and you absolutely despise yourself. Then the whole cycle just perpetuates. Once you're trapped in the eating disorder mindset, you've pretty much got that looming over your head for the rest of your life.

Is it really worth it??

one of my verry shmexi friends said that she just didnt eat. she said occasionally she'd eat a protein bar and whenever she got hungry she'd just drink green tea because its an appetite suppressant and it speeds up metabolism.

i feel like id just end up gaining wieght but, looking at this girl who recomended it for me, it might be just what im looking for.

It sounds like you and your friend have completely different body types, so there really is no use aspiring to achieve the way she looks. What you should be aiming for is inner health. The more healthy you are on the inside, the better you will look on the outside.

if this doesnt work to be honest ill probably just go back to a high-carb diet

Have you ever tried following a healthier diet? I know it can be really hard in this day and age where most foods are highly processed and filled with sugar and fat, BUT if you take the time to research healthy food options, then choose your foods wisely, you can have a really good diet which will help you lose weight naturally.
Exercise is very important as well, not only for physical health but also for psychological health. Exercise releases endorphins in our brain, which make us feel happy and relaxed, and stabilise our moods, i.e. you'll feel better about yourself regardless of what you look like

As belarki said, if you ever need to talk to someone about any body image issues you might be having, or any aspect of eating disorders, please don't hesitate to PM me or belarki

 

[Jblazingphoenix100]

Actively choosing anorexia is playing a really dangerous game. At first you might lose a bit of weight, and you might feel a bit better about yourself. But pretty soon you could easily become completely obsessed with your appearance and your weight, and with food. Once you're trapped in the eating disorder mindset, you've pretty much got that looming over your head for the rest of your life.

Is it really worth it??

quoted for the ominous truth - please talk to these lasses.

 

[pLur4eVer<33]

Thanks for the support everyone. i wasnt expecting this many helpful responses is like less than 2 hours.

 

[n3ophy7e]

^^ Well you've come to the right place

Oh and one other thing I forgot to mention. Frequently skipping meals can lead to further weight gain (once you actually eat). Plus if you're really really hungry (i.e. starving) you're more likely to eat foods which are a) convenient and b) high in calories, therefore you will likely put on more weight than before.

Your best bet is to just be healthy

 

[Jblazingphoenix100]

^ Also skipping meals causes your metabolism to slow down - you go into "starvation mode", so you may lose a bit of weight depending upon how quick your metabolism works, but then it will slow down.

Best to just eat small meals steadily throughout the day - grazing as I said before.

What the Okinawans do is to stop eating as soon as you start to feel full.

 

[3rd_I_blind]

My girlfriend has sufferend from anorexia for three years and still has not fully recovered. It caused her to lose almost all her friends, fuck up her school and her parents haven't had a decent holiday since 2006, but she didn't even mind because all that mattered to her was losing weight.

Once you are on the path of anorexia, you get such a dopamine-kick from begin hungry and seeing the figures on the scale drop gram by gram, that it becomes an addiction. This increased dopamine also puts you at risk for developing other psychological problems like neurotic perfectionism and obsessive-compulsive disorder.

So instead of ending up with a body you feel comfortable in, you'll keep pushing yourself further and further. As is said below, it is not a diet, it is more of a disease that you choose to infect yourself with. Trust me, you will either perish from this disease or you will enjoy it for a few years and live the rest of your life in regret you ever chose this path.

Perhaps I cannot advice you from personal experience of being anorexic, but I can see how my girlfriend is still not satisfied with any weight loss. She can't enjoy most things other girls would, because she is always worried how other people would judge her, or that she might eat a few calories more than planned for when we go out. It's really painful to see she can't be happy with herself, but it must be even more painful for herself.

What I would advice you to do is work out more, resistance training is really good for knocking up your metabolism and feeling comfortable with your body. It's not as much that you'll lose weight, but you'll also tone your muscles and there's a whole psychological thing of working out that's hard to explain. Just try it, you won't get all bulky on muscles, the only women that are need to use a lot of male hormones to get that way.

Good luck and I hope you make the wise decision!

 

[n3ophy7e]

^^ Excellent post, thank you for sharing that. I wish your girlfriend all the best with beating her ED

 

[fizzle]

I've noticed that people who have healthy eating habits (i.e. eating breakfast and healthy snacks throughout the day) tend to be the skinnier and better looking people, especially over the long term... anorexia can cause all sort of other problems if you do it long enough, like yellowing and drying of the skin, hair falling out, hair being less shiny... if you are worried about your looks, I know those are the last things you want, so what you need to do is learn how to eat... Besides, the moment you decide to start eating again (and you will eventually, because its that or die... I'm not even exaggerating) you will put all the weight right back on and probably more, since your metabolism will have slowed down.

I can tell just from your first post that your eating habits are not quite what you need for weight loss, especially if you are going "back to a high-carb diet". High carb diets are not helpful for weight loss... quite the opposite for most people, infact. What you need to do is get into good eating habits. Start with a healthy breakfast, protein is good, so like an omlette or something, it will help to keep you full longer than carbs. Its also better to eat 5 small meals throughout the day, rather than 3 big ones, that way your metabolism is always working, which speeds it up rather than slowing it down. Nuts are a good thing to snack on throughout the day between meals, because they will help to keep you full and they are healthy, but dont eat more than a handful at a time, about a 1/2 cup if you want to get really specific. Also make sure they are dry roasted, a lot of times the flavored ones (other than salt) will actually be deep fried rather than dry roasted... which I actually just learned recently, and was surprised to hear.

Between Healthy Living and Second Opinion, I've seen lots of threads for dieting tips and ways to eat healthier, you should look into some of those, but for now the things that I have listed here should get you off to a good start.

 

[Skelu]

One person very close to me has suffered eating disorders for the last 15 years. She has tried to kill herself more than once during that time. It’s not worth it! It can (and will) affect the people who care you, more than you could ever imagine.

Sorry for being selfish. I know that when things don’t feel right you usually tend to look for solutions but I am sure that anorexia is not the right answer for you or anyone else. Living healthy is not that difficult and you must always remember that we are all individuals. I eat lots of bacon and all other meat products during the day and only a small amount of vegetables and fruits for breakfast.

I have lost somewhat 30 kg of fat and muscle during the last few years. My weight started to drop when I started eating breakfast and stopped eating just before going to sleep, which I had done since a little kid.

Hopefully you understand that anorexia is nothing to play with.

 

[foxyloxy55]

Isn't anorexia a mental issue? The only reason I ask is because the first line of your post says it's a "choice". I was under the impression that it is a lot more serious than a simple choice. It's pretty sad to me that the OP is brushing it off like it's nothing.

 

[craigyt2k]

i think the best solution is eat when you need to and eat healthy, so if you goto play sport/run, eat a piece of fruit, fast metabolising sugar/vitamins. if your not doing much stick to greens. I juice mine to save on all the chewing, and i chew seeds etc. i lost a lot of weight and eating like this and was in great shape and very fit. i fell off the wagon for a while so piled it on, especially my arse and back legs. takes will power to not eat any junk food but worth it for mental/physical health.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Isn't anorexia a mental issue? The only reason I ask is because the first line of your post says it's a "choice". I was under the impression that it is a lot more serious than a simple choice. It's pretty sad to me that the OP is brushing it off like it's nothing.

Anorexia nervosa is a mental illness and its more than simply not eating but the OP seems to be indicating that she see's it as desirable to choose to not eat, which is different than choosing to have anorexia nervosa but its a fine line and she could be anorexic and just attempting to rationalize... or she could actually become anorexic through the process of just attempting to starve herself.

Given the risks of doing this, the fatality of actual untreated anorexia, etc. I would say unequivocally that this is something that should NEVER be fucked with.

 

[MynameisnotDeja]

Anorexia isn't a choice, it's an illness.

 

[foxyloxy55]

Not eating isn't a wise dieting option either. Let's pretend all of the obvious reasons for the OP not to do this don't exist for a minute. Starving yourself fucks your metabolism and in the future, you will find it more difficult to keep weight off. Have you tried eating healthy instead? You say your exercise and that's great. Learning about nutrition and choosing what you eat more wisely is a valuable tool for losing weight. Searching for a quick fix generally never really fixes the issue.

My goodness, this is a sad thread. Anorexia certainly isn't something to take lightly.

 

[purple_cloud]

BTW im not looking to gain muscle, if anything id like to lose muscle because ive got huge calfs and thunder thighs. im 16 years old, 159lbs.

if this doesnt work to be honest ill probably just go back to a high-carb diet and just use stimulants 2x a week -__- sorry if this is the most pathetic post youve read so far but im having the worst week and my chub is NAHT helping

When I was your age, I weighed about 10 pounds more than you do now, at about 5'2. Honestly, I don't even think at that age, starving myself would have taken the weight off. I played tennis, I ate well, and the weight stayed on at that point. By the time I was 20, I had dropped to 148 pounds, and was fine with that.

Not eating is horrendous. I don't think it's an official disorder, but I have something I refer to as "anxiety-induced anorexia." When I'm really anxious, I can't eat. During the period when my mom was dying, I didn't eat for 3 months. Now I'm almost 24, and 120 lbs, with absolutely shitty horrible eating habits. Basically, eating disorder discussion aside since you want to make a choice to not really eat, I do not recommend this. Ever since that period of starving myself, even 3 and a half years later, I cannot eat properly, I don't feel like I'm getting the proper nutrition --- I'm starting out my adult life with no idea how I should eat, and my body isn't hungry when it should be. I also struggled with being a chubby "mature teen," but that had nothing to do with what happened. I wish I could recommend more to you than "read posts by n3o in particular" but, it's just not a good idea to get yourself used to starving. Whether its by choice, not by choice, because of anxiety, because of wanting to lose weight, whatever...it's horrendous.

To physically lose weight, especially if you are doing so much physical activity, you are going to feel weak and light headed all of the time if you don't eat. Restricting your calories to a smaller amount than the amount you are burning off really is the only way, according to the pediatrician I had as a chubby teen. Your body will change a lot over the next few years, and there's a good chance some of what you are upset with will come off naturally --- let nature do it's thing, and don't stop eating. Perhaps instead of a high-carb diet like you usually have, try one high in protein and have some fruit. I wish you the best of luck --- just realize you aren't alone in this, and many women and men struggle with their weight throughout their lives.

 

[tiggerific]

A friend of mines daughter has a problem with eating, eventually took her in and she was on a drip to be fed, poor thing was so lethargic, she could not concentrate properly, was always getting colds as her immune system was weak. Thankfully after a lot of counselling and hospital intervention she is fine now, well almost still on the thin side but certainly eats.
For me I can hardly go 4 hours without eating, but have never had a problems as such with weight gain as I am very active. Whenever I have not been active which tends to be over winter I gain nearly a stone in weight but quickly lose it again once I am getting out.

n3o is one of the best people you could talk to about this illness. If you are choosing this I must admit it is a very dangerous way to live and your health will suffer for it. Maybe speak to your doctor about a more healthy diet and a proper exercise regime that would be a healthier and less dangerous option.