DeathIndustrial88
Bluelighter
If you have a tolerance to heroin or heavier opioids, tramadol won't do anything but possibly keep you out of withdrawal.
And even with no tolerance, it took about 5-6 50mg pills in a staggered dosing form for me to enjoy it. (About 400mg total).
It was incredibly long lasting & had a weird noddy but stimulated feel to it.
Once I got into heroin & then buprenorphine, tramadol lost all of that magic.
It's still a nice feeling tho tho to throw a few tramadol ontop of your buprenorphine to kind of it give a better experience.
Tramadol itself is incredibly weak but it metabolizes into O-desmethyltramadol which is much more potent. And those who lack the right liver enzymes for this will find tramadol even more lackluster.
It's possible getting into the heavier opioids ruined tramadol for me, or that my liver enzymes changed once I got older & now I don't metabolize it as well.
However, my 60-somethin' year old mother use to be able to pop 1 50mg pill & start cleaning the house & feeling really energetic. She once told me she understood now why I was so addicted to them. lol So I guess everyone reacts differently. 1 50mg pill wouldn't have done shit for me, even with no tolerance.
I use to get the nods & scratch my body up on tramadol, just like I did on heroin.
And even with no tolerance, it took about 5-6 50mg pills in a staggered dosing form for me to enjoy it. (About 400mg total).
It was incredibly long lasting & had a weird noddy but stimulated feel to it.
Once I got into heroin & then buprenorphine, tramadol lost all of that magic.
It's still a nice feeling tho tho to throw a few tramadol ontop of your buprenorphine to kind of it give a better experience.
Tramadol itself is incredibly weak but it metabolizes into O-desmethyltramadol which is much more potent. And those who lack the right liver enzymes for this will find tramadol even more lackluster.
It's possible getting into the heavier opioids ruined tramadol for me, or that my liver enzymes changed once I got older & now I don't metabolize it as well.
However, my 60-somethin' year old mother use to be able to pop 1 50mg pill & start cleaning the house & feeling really energetic. She once told me she understood now why I was so addicted to them. lol So I guess everyone reacts differently. 1 50mg pill wouldn't have done shit for me, even with no tolerance.
I use to get the nods & scratch my body up on tramadol, just like I did on heroin.