Your thoughts on Salvia?

[missmegandelaney]

i'm an experienced usuer when it comes to shrooms and lsd, but..

i've never smoked salvia! and I really want too. But can someone please tell me what the trip is like compared to a shroom trip or an lsd trip? If they're alike in any way or different...!

 

[Enables]

i'm an experienced usuer when it comes to shrooms and lsd, but..

i've never smoked salvia! and I really want too. But can someone please tell me what the trip is like compared to a shroom trip or an lsd trip? If they're alike in any way or different...!

I wouldn't bother with it if I were you. Many consider its effects to be unpleasant. I have only done it once, but I didn't break through. It's supposedly nothing like an acid/shroom trip. Instead of being in somewhat the same reality on acid/shrooms, I hear it's like your in a different reality. DMT is supposedly much better. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than I can give additional input.

 

[boiledfruit]

My advice - if you aren't a shaman, stay away.

 

[eye_wide_open]

I love mushrooms. Salvia is also very cool to me. I don't do large enough dose to break through. I just relax and take a good puff or two and let it take me and make my body feel good and I see some colors and sometimes a mellow train ride that goes around Disneyland. lol
Figure that one out.

If you can relax and don't consume a huge dose, it's actually quite comforting and funny and lifts your mood.

Salvia is like a 5 minute huge dose of mushrooms but different in a way.
It's not exactly relative to LSD so much..
Kinda more like DMT almost... overpowering. But taken in low doses can be very smooth and relaxing.

I can get an awesome little buzz going if I do it just right. I don't mind using the 10x or 20x salvia... I don't see a reason to burn some crazy 120x or something.
I buy the lowest price stuff at the liquor store and am perfectly happy with it.

When I smoke it, I lay back on the floor in a room by myself or with a friend. I do my best not to go wandering around like the boneheads on youtube. I just try and lay back and enjoy. It can be different each time. Or sometimes, eerily the same.

both DMT and Salvia will take you to other wolrds (or other places in your head some may say) if you are going for broke.. then again so will shrooms. All three are highly misunderstood. Each has their value in my eyes for certain reasons.

 

[webbykevin]

I was gung ho till I watched other people do it, now I don't think a salvia breakthrough is for me, I'll stick to my tryptamines and the occasional acid binge..

 

[eye_wide_open]

Just ease into it like anything else. No rush..shit's abound plenty on the cheap.

 

[ParappaTheRapper]

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[Mikes678]

Oh my, salvia huh haha. My last trip was off an entire bong bowl of 80X in one hit, and that was plenty to break through. I was in an alternate reality, and had completely forgotten I was tripping. The initial kick, I saw myself talking with yarn falling out of my mouth. I looked at my friends, and they were in the same body but they weren't the same people. I wandered through a cartoonish world, not recognizing anything. Towards the end, I saw my friends in two different realities trying to help me, and at the last second the reality that wasn't mine rolled onto the one I knew. It took me about an hour to completely come to, as far as feeling normal and comprehending everything again. I could fully explain my trip, but I could write a short story haha. I guess it depends on the person, but I would like to venture there again, I just need a better setting next time.

 

[Br1tannia]

I've smoked large amounts, weak and strong extracts in bongs and joints but have never broken through for some reason. It looks more scary than pleasant really

 

[RR279]

I messed around with 60x a few years ago. My last trip consisted of me taking as many hits as possible. I didn't enjoy any of the trips, but there is a reason why that was the last salvia trip I ever took. It made shrooms look like a hit of schwag, and I don't mean that in a positive context.

 

[PandaGun]

I tried 60x and i'm telling you it 'aint fun, but if you wanna experience some head fuckery to a horrible horrible level... Do it. IMO I would have rather done it than not done it and regretted it. In retrospect it was amazing, at the time... NAHHHH (-=

 

[joe456]

For me it doesn't do a huge amount until i breakthrough, then you are suddenly in a state of complete confusion and disorientation, I have mistaken my sofa arm for my consciousness (concluded that the long yellow colour moving around like a snake, whcih turned out to be my armchair arm, was moving too fast to be my conciousness), i have said to myself "what's going on" then forgotten what that meant and thought it was a one word noun, asking myself whenever i saw a new hallucination "is this whatsgoingon?", I've become 2d with many other 2d images of myself in front and behind me causing me to wonder if I would be the image that became 3d reality when i sobered up. I could go on for a long time and I have only taken it a few times. I'm leaving it now until I'm more experienced with psychedelics and meditation, never found it pleasant apart from non-breakthrough amounts, you wont know how much will make you breakthrough until you do

 

[Medicineman94]

Salvia is the kind of thing you want to experiment with but not do a lot IMO. It has had some crazy results for me including and out of body experience which was definitely very cool. Good for meditation and a break in reality, but I wouldn't necessarily call it fun.

 

[missmegandelaney]

Do you guys think I should try it first alone?

 

[eye_wide_open]

I did it alone my first time and found myself totally confused.
Luckily it was only 10x and one good solid hit, not a 3 hit breakthrough attempt.
I was fine. I lay down on the floor when I did it to try and convince myself that's where I would need to stay when things got funky. I ended up rolling over on to my stomach and lifting my head up and grasping the floor with my hands an seeing lines of gravity everywhere pulling on me. Lots of fractal type things too.

But, I couldn't recommend it is safe to try your first time alone.
It's quite possible you could be one of the guys who wanders over to the window and jumps out.

After a bit of experience I can take a rip or two while sitting here in my chair just fine and enjoy it pretty well. When I'm coming down I always want to take another rip or two and go back up half way.

Most other people I know do not enjoy Salvia but I think it's because they go all out right away and don't learn it or ease into it to understand the feelings you experience on it.

Sometimes I wonder why folks enjoy DMT so much when it's very much like Salvia that people don't enjoy so much. Body load, other worlds, entities, visuals galore, you name it they are fairly similar.

Both are great in low doses. DMT is awesome in breakthrough dose, but can't speak for Salvia breakthrough. I have not broken through on Salvia on purpose yet. Salvia is one thing I keep on hand... I think I may try to break through on it one day just to compare with DMT. Since my first real high on Salvia it has always interested me enough to keep a tiny bit around for "if I feel like it".

It's cheap, readily available and natural (to whatever extent your stuff is).
I have a friend who is a police officer. He tried some Salvia since he can't try anything else or he'll be tested or polygraphed for it. He said it felt like gravity was pulling him around and he got a good buzz. He didn't break through, he just tried a rip for "educational purposes".

I was gung ho till I watched other people do it, now I don't think a salvia breakthrough is for me, I'll stick to my tryptamines and the occasional acid binge..

Lol to add.. in comparison to Salvia,
if you'd see me on a breakthrough dose of DMT you wouldn't touch it either. hahahaha
I come back shaking like a volcano that's about to erupt and totally loss for words stumbling all over my own speak trying to explain what happens. super euphoria mushroom hole it feels like or something. nobody else I have seen try DMT does what I seem to do for some reason. I go to outer space and talk to entities hardcore.

 

[vegan]

(related to one's personal experiences, results course differ)

- experience brainwashing, as in, the plant will try you to make you decide what it wants you to

- effects are very close to a very weird dream to me
so close that i'm surprised never to see any comparison

- i didn't know plants could talk to you.

- if you walk around, you may not have taken enough

- you have a good chance of entity contact (meeting :the spirit of the plant" or whatever it is... but it is

- weird pins and needles sensation as if things were creeping under your skin, not bad, but you may feel like taking a shower just after the experience

- one of the "big ones" (with 5-MeO-DMT, DMT, ketamine) (if you want to add to the list, feel free to propose)

- not experienced enough to be at ease, but really wants to try again to explore more. more interesting than all but a half-dozen drugs

- sitters should be fucking quiet while you're on it, and not ask constantly "are you feeling it? are feeling it?"

- can be done without a sitter, on the conditions that there are no dangerous objects around; that you lay down, which will may it almost impossible to stand up and walk around when it hits you; that the doors are locked and that the neighbours won't open it while you're out there; that there's no way your pipe/lighter can put something on fire if you drop them

- effects cannot be compared to any other drug, except for characteristics such as length, smoking technique , etc. it's unique

- like it or not, it's damn worth the try

My advice - if you aren't a shaman, stay away.

my advice - if you care about shamans (crooks who believe in their lies), don't give ignorant advices

Salvia is like a 5 minute huge dose of mushrooms but different in a way.

painting is like soccer, but different

 

[vegan]

I wonder why folks enjoy DMT so much when it's very much like Salvia

obviously we're not using the same vocabulary with the same meaning here

having common characteristics doesn't make DMT similar to salvia in any way

you can put shrooms and ayahuasca in the same basket, but DMT and salvia are not alike at all
not connection in feelings, visuals, colours, insights, ..., nothing

 

[Mikes678]

sitters should be fucking quiet while you're on it, and not ask constantly "are you feeling it? are feeling it?"

I highly disagree on this one, part of the reason I started freaking out during my trip was because no one was talking. Before I even finished exhaling I was tripping hard. No one looked at me and no one said anything, that's when I thought my friends were from a different dimension. If they had reminded me I had just taken a fat rip, I'm not sure I would have been able to grasp it, but it would have been better than silence haha. But yes, don't sit there and repeat "are you tripping yet", keep casual conversation going and let him/her enjoy it.

 

[Clocktower]

I've smoked salvia a few times, and personally I love it, just reading this thread makes me want to do it again!

In general, most people don't "love" Salvia, because unlike most other drugs (that I've tried) it doesn't provide any euphoria or mood lift. The best assessment I can give is: take a long, hard, bong rip, lie on your back, and BAM, you're dreaming. Might be a good dream, might be a bad one, might be weird, might be normal(ish). It's very common to have a feeling that where you are looks like the real world, but isn't. It's also very common to laugh uncontrollably for several minutes. The effects last about 30 minutes, and after that expect to take a nap.

I agree with those who've said it's not really like anything else, and that's why I like it so much. On Salvia I've experienced emotions and learned about myself in ways that were never really available on, say, LSD. Basically, if you're looking for a "buzz" or a "party," stick with something else, but if you're ready for life lessons from another world, jump right in!

- you have a good chance of entity contact (meeting :the spirit of the plant" or whatever it is... but it is

YES! First time I tried Salvia I felt the presence of a second emotional being that shared my body/mind, was incredible.

Do you guys think I should try it first alone?

It's good to have a sitter for safety reasons, and just to have someone to talk to while you're "dreaming" and after you "wake up."

 

[eye_wide_open]

One thing I'd like to add is I don't get paranoid when consuming Salvia. At all.
I did a few times on DMT though.

but DMT and salvia are not alike at all
not connection in feelings, visuals, colours, insights, ..., nothing

In your opinion
I personally feel they could be compared in many ways, about as many ways as they are different.
I could sit here and list reasons to support myself but meh.. it's just my opinion.