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There are quite a few articles saying otherwise.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...ian-health-official-says-pure-ecstasy-is-safe

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/ecstasy_safer_than_peanuts/
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2008/sep/05/australia_drug_researcher_says_e

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/mar/23/constitution.drugsandalcohol

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rse-riding-says-Governments-drug-advisor.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574273/Ecstasy-is-a-safe-drug-says-police-chief.html



Now, there are just as many saying the exact opposite. Probably a lot more, really. Saying it is safe or unsafe is a load of horse shit, though. It's both. It is an EXTREMELY safe drug when used responsibly, if you read the Six Simple Rules To MDMA and follow them, there is really not much harm that can come to you.

Adulterants are the main source of harm in "ecstasy" abuse, although I can't deny that the drug it self can be quite damaging. In fact, I would also argue it is one the the most damaging drugs out there. I have made that argument before. This is only with serious abuse, though. There is a key difference between use and abuse, just as there is a difference between someone using Desoxyn for severe ADD and someone smoking crystal for days on end chasing the shadow people.

I could continue, but honestly I think you already understand that a responsible 150mg (~1.1mg per kg for human) dose once every month or two is not the same as the 3000mg (I've seen up to 15mg/kg) a day doses they are injecting into mice for 3 consecutive days for weeks on end to display this neurotoxicity.




Meth and heroin can also be used safely, but due to their strong reinforcing properties and addictive nature this is MUCH, MUCH harder than using MDMA in such a manner.



As regards to the first article, "may not have negative long-term health effects" is about as vague as you can get. And he's talking about pure MDMA, which how many people actually get?

The second: "A much larger percentage of people suffer a fatal acute reaction to peanuts than to MDMA." is their only claim. Fatal. What a trash-piece of writing.

The third: "Drug Researcher Says Ecstasy Safer Than Binge Drinking". He notes that the ecstasy dose is very small. Duh. Again, I'm not comparing copious amounts of heroin to small amounts of ecstasy. And he doesn't say it doesn't cause damage, only that its safer than binge-drinking. And that's one researcher's opinion. You get all kinds of opinions in academia.

Fourth: Yeah, ask addiction specialists to evaluate physical damage. They should have gotten neurologists. Again, they indicate that they're judging ecstasy based on deaths, not long-term physical damage which doesn't result in death.

Fifth: Nutthead again. He is one opinion. And the daily mail is not a good source.

Sixth: Did you really just cite an opinion of a police officer?

So far you've cited all of three opinions that ecstasy is safer in use that doesn't result in death, and I doubt they take into account pills/powders that were ingested and have been found to have no MDx in them. And I can guarantee you that though the proportion of people who die from alcohol abuse is higher that in low-moderate amounts its much much more safe than the neurotoxin you're defending.

Your sources are pretty much moot, in other words. You need to cite scholarly articles, like this one: http://www.jneurosci.org/content/15/8/5476.short

and this: http://jnnp.bmj.com/content/68/6/719.short

and this: http://stke.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/sci;297/5590/2260

Notice how two of them don't have to do with mice, nor at ridiculous doses.

Your only point (which you didn't fully flesh out) was the last thing you said. And I counter with even a moderate recreational dose is much harder on the brain than a high recreational dose of the others, making you not need to binge to get such negative effects.

I hope you now understand that MDx is a neurotoxin.
 
My general rules:

1. Take care of myself..that is shower, put on make up, eat, keep my weight up, drink a lot of fluids, take at least a multi vitamin.
2. Dont neglect general responsibilities (i.e. taking care of the house, etc)..and thatll go with..
3. Dont get messed up to the point where either Im in a dead sleep or tripping bad and having panic attacks.
4. Since I have fibromyalgia, I do always have opiates however, I take whats prescribed. Only extra if I'm in more pain then usual.
5. Benzos only when a bad panic attack hits or when I need to sleep.
6. Meth..I limit that to twice a month, 4-6 hours between hits, no smoking 4 hours before bed and dont do it for more then 3 days at a time. While doing it, I eat, sleep etc. so the comedown isnt bad at all.
7. Weed..once every few months. Not a big fan.
8. No other drugs, no iv'ing ever.
 
In no order:

1. No selling. While I appreciate that some people do I can't risk my freedom.
2. Only get fucked up at home (this could have saved me a lot of trouble if I did this as a teenager)
3. Don't do anything stupid that could get me in trouble with the law.
4. Pay all my bills first.
5. Don't buy anything on the front
6. Take care of health. Physical and mental. I have to eat something even if I'm not hungry.
7. Sleeping is not optional and must occur every night. As long as I don't black out I can use as much alcohol as necessary to get this accomplished.
8. Don't abuse my scripts. They are for medical use only and I don't need to fuck with my tolerance or supply for a cheap buzz.
 
That was mine to for a while ^
Never thought in a million years i'd do heroin (got addicted) or meth.
Crazy how the longer you stay in the drug game the more of your own rules you break. You just lose more and more value for your self, and your rules simply die off with out you being real aware of it.

Moderation.is.key!
 
No matter how sick, wait until I'm in a safe spot to shoot up(no parking lots, moving cars, etc)
Don't take shit on the cuff unless I KNOW I'll have cash to cover ASAP
No more than two people in the car when copping. Ever.

As far as the drugs themselves, it's more common sense shit-
If you're not strung out, don't go for more than 2 days(in my case)
Just got a new stamp, don't go banging the same amount as you've been of the last ones
Etc, etc, etc.
 
I will never steal, pawn, or let myself go. My hygiene and personal appearance are never affected my my usage. My bills come first, then comes my pleasure. I also only use when I'm off work; I won't go to work under the influence since shooting up is a lot stronger and more noticable than when I smoked my shit. I rush hard as a mother fucker when I'm using, though. Well worth the wait.
 
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