Your opinion: OC the same as dope?

[Khadijah]

Someones comment in another thread in here made me think.

It was somethign like "why do you do OC, heroin is cheaper and better" or etc.

And i know that basically....in many ways, youre fuckin with the same shit when it comes to dope and OC. one or the other, it dont matter, of course theres the differences in the high itself and the qualities of the high but in the end, each one is just as "bad" as the other one, i think just about everyone agrees on that right?

But alot of people (including me) wont touch dope but love OC. Peeps give alot of different reasons for it, most of them are stupid like the classic "man, i dont fuck with that her'on shit man, that shits bad, that shitll fuck you UP but oxycontin's a pill, its cleaner na mean, that shits safe, dope aint safe." its that ignorant type of 'well its in a pill so it gotta be better"/"heroin is the devil" mentality

But my reasons more simple....i did dope too much back in the day and didnt like where it took me. and theres too much bad shit associated with it to me now that if i ever did it again it would just lead to problems. to be real, i got no desire to do heroin. im done, its just outta my life.

But i still do like a good deep fucked-the-fuck-up opiate high....

I do OC to substitute for that feeling that i love without all the baggage attached to dope. for whatever reason i dont really have a problem controlling OC use, when dope was basically one of them things where if it was there, it would be gone, no matter how much i said i would save it, whatever, if i bought 3 bags id do 3 bags, if i bought 6 bags id do 6 bags, it was impossible to leave alone.

OC i can cop some and let them chill for a few days without even doin em. so to me, even doe basically in a lot of ways, as far as how "severe" the drugs are, dope and OC are interchangeable (i dont mean that as in "if you done OC you done dope" or nothin like that, cuz that aint true at all, im just sayin both are strong ass opiates with the power to ruin your life if you let it and they are equally "bad" or risky to use) to me one is playing with fire and the other ones just lettin myself enjoy my shit once in a while..


So what about yall

How do you see it? Are you a dope or OC user, why do you use the one you use? Are you one of them peeps whose like "well if you do OC you might as well just do some fuckin dope because its the same shit and dope is cheaper anyways"

Or do you got your own reasons for doin whatchu do?

Or is it all the same to you and you just take what you can get.

Im curious of peoples opinions on the "Its the same thing, OC is no different or no better than dope" issue.

 

[Abraxus]

Someones comment in another thread in here made me think.

It was somethign like "why do you do OC, heroin is cheaper and better" or etc.

And i know that basically....in many ways, youre fuckin with the same shit when it comes to dope and OC. one or the other, it dont matter, of course theres the differences in the high itself and the qualities of the high but in the end, each one is just as "bad" as the other one, i think just about everyone agrees on that right?

But alot of people (including me) wont touch dope but love OC. Peeps give alot of different reasons for it, most of them are stupid like the classic "man, i dont fuck with that her'on shit man, that shits bad, that shitll fuck you UP but oxycontin's a pill, its cleaner na mean, that shits safe, dope aint safe." its that ignorant type of 'well its in a pill so it gotta be better"/"heroin is the devil" mentality

But my reasons more simple....i did dope too much back in the day and didnt like where it took me. and theres too much bad shit associated with it to me now that if i ever did it again it would just lead to problems. to be real, i got no desire to do heroin. im done, its just outta my life.

But i still do like a good deep fucked-the-fuck-up opiate high....

I do OC to substitute for that feeling that i love without all the baggage attached to dope. for whatever reason i dont really have a problem controlling OC use, when dope was basically one of them things where if it was there, it would be gone, no matter how much i said i would save it, whatever, if i bought 3 bags id do 3 bags, if i bought 6 bags id do 6 bags, it was impossible to leave alone.

OC i can cop some and let them chill for a few days without even doin em. so to me, even doe basically in a lot of ways, as far as how "severe" the drugs are, dope and OC are interchangeable (i dont mean that as in "if you done OC you done dope" or nothin like that, cuz that aint true at all, im just sayin both are strong ass opiates with the power to ruin your life if you let it and they are equally "bad" or risky to use) to me one is playing with fire and the other ones just lettin myself enjoy my shit once in a while..


So what about yall

How do you see it? Are you a dope or OC user, why do you use the one you use? Are you one of them peeps whose like "well if you do OC you might as well just do some fuckin dope because its the same shit and dope is cheaper anyways"

Or do you got your own reasons for doin whatchu do?

Or is it all the same to you and you just take what you can get.

Im curious of peoples opinions on the "Its the same thing, OC is no different or no better than dope" issue.

In my opinion, Heroin is far superior to OC. It's cheaper, stronger, lasts longer, has a better rush, and is generally more euphoric.

I think anyone who uses IV would much prefer heroin. You don't add that much to OC by shooting because it's so orally/nasally bioavailable, and the rush isn't that great from IV. There's nothing like the warmth and euphoria provided by a shot of H. Most of the people that I know that prefer OC to Heroin snort them. Snorting OC is very effective(as is eating it), but not nearly as effective for heroin and forget about eating heroin. Add the stigma that heroin has and peoples desire to not feel like a heroin "junkie", that is where OC's popularity in that regard comes from. Snorting OC is very good, and snorting dope is very good. Shooting OC is just okay, but shooting dope is unreal.

All in all I think it comes down to personal preference like many other things, but I have not meant too many IV users who prefer OC. I could be wrong, but that's just my take on it. Maybe it varies in places that heroin quality and price are not as good as in the Northeast. I know you're from Jersey Lacey, and the dope there is great, and I'm from Philly, which is also known for very good dope. Maybe someone in Alabama or Montana would have a different view on the subject, I don't know.

 

[uumpaloompa]

In my opinion, Heroin is far superior to OC. It's cheaper, stronger, lasts longer, has a better rush, and is generally more euphoric.

I think anyone who uses IV would much prefer heroin. .

Couldn't agree more....

 

[Footloose]

I don't IV but smoking dope was always more problematic for me... was addicted to it and used daily for about 3 months. Anyone who says smoking H is weak doesn't know how to get big hits...

 

[Khadijah]

somethin about dope "catches" me which is why i cant do it. i cant fuck with that shit and use moderation. OC on the other hand....well...i couldnt resist it if you offered me some for free or if i had enough money to snap it up, but it dont grab me and lock its claws in, ill do it once a month and its straight and been doin it like that for years now so shits all good with me.

 

[ToxicFerret]

I've had a lot more heroin than oxy, and I can safely say that the high doesnt compare. There's some element of that perfect opiate high that is missing in oxy. That feeling where it just doesn't fucking matter what happens right after you take your bump/shot doesn't exist with oxy. It's also far more expensive and I can't really afford to do oxy more than once a month. I still enjoy vikes and oxy since heroin, but they are just not as good. I don't shoot (yet? I have before but I prefer sniffing it) and still there's something about heroin that makes it perfect, and oxy lacks that quality.

 

[Khadijah]

That feeling where it just doesn't fucking matter what happens right after you take your bump/shot doesn't exist with oxy

So fuckin true. i wish it did. that was the whole feeling i lived for, for a lil while. but i aint tryina go back.

OC just gives me more of a "Daaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh" drooling retard type of high and i do have some of that not givin a shit but the 'nothin matters' of heroin is in a class of its own.

 

[OCjunky]

Heroin is worse then OC to fuck around with because for some reason, H fucks with you. H is so powerful that if i do it like 4-5 days in a row, ill go through 2X as bad as withdrawls as if I did OC the same amount of days, physical and mental. And H kinda fucks with your receptors so you cant go back to the other lower class opiates you like, and your tolerance for some reason will never be what it used to be after using H several times.

With this thread, you can say the same thing with hydrocodone too. I mean whats so good about Oxycodone IMO? I have a script right now for it and its NOT that different then Hydro just more stimulating, simple as that (Lacey, you would see this if you could get loaded on Hydro still). I think you just like Oxycodone more because you cant get high off of hydrocodone anymore. But if you could STILL get high on hydrocodone and see its potential, i think youd have this threads title be " Hydrocodone the same as dope?", but probably not, but my point is, if you can feel the high on hydro like you were a rookie, you wouldnt be bickering about what one is better, because you would think they are both fuckin GOOD.

Oxy has its plus with being able to snort shitloads without dealing with APAP and its just more handy to take a few pills then 6 or 7....

Lastly, i say this all the time and its true because everyone is different, some people like pizza more then spaghetti, others like it the other way around, but my point is, its all in the persons likings.
Peace

 

[Khadijah]

OK, dont even start the oxy vs hydro shit in here, theres already a thread for that.

This aint "whats your preference, OC or heroin?"

I think its pretty clear from what i said in the thread that this aint "what one do you prefer" but im asking:



To YOU personally, is OC just as bad to fuck with as heroin?

Do you say, fuck it, Im doin OC i might as well just be doing heroin because theyre basically the same anyways?

Do you believe that heroin is the devil, or somethin just as bad, but OC is somehow safer/better/less addictive cuz it aint heroin?

Hope that clears it up

I ask cuz ive had a lot of peeps say to me "why the fuck dont you just do diesel? i dont get it. you do mad OC, but you absolutely refuse to even touch dope, what is the deal with that? OC is just as bad, it aint like youre less likely to get addicted or some shit just cuz it aint "the big H" youre just bein stupid about heroin."

Im like nah son....and give the explanation i gave at the beginning of the thread

Im wonderin if its like that for anyone else but me , also

 

[psychetool]

Heroin was much stronger and more euphoric for me. OC is ok, but it definitly feels more pharmepseudical (less euphoria, seemed to kill the pain well) . They are basically the same to me, with heroin just being better and cheaper (of course I can never find any) but yeah. If you're doing OC, you might as well be doing heroin. I'd still never shoot either of them, though.

OC just gives me more of a "Daaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh" drooling retard type of high

Good description. I agree. I would just sit there drooling not caring that I was watching a movie on OC where as on H I could actually get into things a little bit. H felt like sweet poetry.

 

[OCjunky]

Yeah, Lacey i get what you mean, if your doin any strong opiate, you might aswell go for the gold and not hold back.....

Its like fuckin smokin shwag nug everyday and not smokin good shit when you can get it for cheaper, simple as that...

 

[rat tat tat tat]

Just the mention of the word heroin makes most people cringe. It sounds much better to say "oh, I do oxycontin" then "heroin", bleh, I never use the word heroin for this reason, always "fucking the brown bitch" or "blows". Plus the fact that OxyContin comes in regulated pills where you can easily measure a dose and makes it much harder to overdose. Plus, you don't have to travel to seedy areas usually to acquire OxyContin and deal with people that may rob you or sell you fentanyl instead of brown. I'd vote for OxyContin as long as you've got $$$.

 

[RollinJ]

i enjoyed the nodding pout high from heroin ALOT more than the alertness i got from oxy. plus, 10 bucks got me high once with oxy, and 20 got me high for almost 3 days, 2 of those days pretty much all the way through

 

[blase deviant]

Heroin feels so much more warm and full than OC...

I agree about obvious downsides (purity, people, cost), but...

 

[-Guido-]

Hell no! OC the same as dope? If you can get your hands on near pure dope it will blow any legal pharmacutical out of the water. I used to prefer Oxy to Heroin in terms of quality. With the Heroin Im getting now, fuck Oxycontin. I just snagged a gram of some good shit and a few tiny bumps later Im in heaven. The warmth, the feeling of nothing is a euphoria like no other in its self for me. Heroin is just absolutly beautiful. Oxycontin produces a great high no doubt, but Heroin, its not a high, its bliss. With my experience yesterday and today I truly realize now why people can become so adicted to Heroin.

 

[-Guido-]

Just the mention of the word heroin makes most people cringe. It sounds much better to say "oh, I do oxycontin" then "heroin", bleh, I never use the word heroin for this reason

When Im asked by friends what Im doing I always say diacetylmorphine. They immedialty think morphine not heroin. Im going to have some 'splainin to do if they ever find out it means heroin.

 

[`bLow?]

lol, anyone thats ever done both will tell you that oc and heroin aint even close to the same. heroin is cheaper and better. i stopped my heroin use and have kept it strictly pharmaceutical opiates, and the difference between how i feel/cravings after 5-6 days of dope use compared to 5-6 days of oxycodone abuse is ridiculous.

not to mention that oc doesnt produce nearly the same euphoric deep nod of dope.

 

[blase deviant]

When Im asked by friends what Im doing I always say diacetylmorphine. They immedialty think morphine not heroin. Im going to have some 'splainin to do if they ever find out it means heroin.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.

 

[robatussin]

I would prefer oc due to my dope use just to think to myself (at least im not doin dope), but the truth is where i live heroin is way cheaper than oc and my oc connect recently passed

 

[charlie horse]

I can't bring myself to waste money on OC anymore, when I could just buy dope for a better high. In one aspect if I shouldn't be doing dope at the time, I don't do OC and pretend it's not as serious. From the other side, dope has better affects, and that makes it much worse because it's that much easier to get hooked.