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Your HPPD might not be HPPD

Jesusgreen

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Alright, I just wanted to add a recent experience that may or may not clear up some peoples worries that they have HPPD. I am very short-sighted (-5 in one eye, -4 in the other if I remember right) and have had short-sightedness for a long time now, however with my glasses it has never bothered me. I've also always had slight visual "static" (like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Red-blue-noise.gif), particularly at night.

Recently I purchased 100mg of 4-AcO-DMT, and a day or two after my second trip I began noticing sparkling/shimmering spots in the corner of my vision. I attributed this to after-effects of the 4-AcO-DMT, however after a few days it had not gone away and had seemingly got worse, whenever I went outside it would be very clear and apparently, big sparkling spots in the corner of my eye. I also noticed at night my visual static was much worse than usual, and I attributed this to possible HPPD.

A few days later it was getting too much, and I was worried it was something serious, so I went to the ophthalmologist, got my eyes tested to see if I needed new glasses, and also had a general health check on my eye - I specifically mentioned my problem so they looked in detail to see what might be causing this. Eventually they came back with the result that I have a thin retina, this is actually a fairly common (usually hereditary) problem with eyes, particularly in those with strong myopia like my own. The ophthalmologist then went on to say "What you have been experiencing is perfectly normal and all people with a thin retina experience things like this - however many people never notice them until one day when one of these spots gets in the way of your vision and from then on you keep on noticing them until you stop paying attention to them", she then advised me to simply ignore them until I no longer noticed them. I did, and they went away.

Next time I tripped, once again, a day after the trip these same effects occurred again, this time I knew just to ignore them, and almost immediately they disappeared. They have not come back except temporarily when I think about them.

I just thought I'd share this because I've heard of people describing their "HPPD" in this way and I am confident that many of these cases are simply an existing eye condition that they never noticed until after use of psychedelics. I mean, we all know how much clearer the world looks after dosing with psychedelics, the same is true of visual impediments, they suddenly become easier to notice until you put them out of your mind.

I hope this puts some peoples minds to rest. Get your eyes tested if you are having something similar, if you have Posterior Vitreous Detachment, Retinal Detachment or even simply a thin retina like me then you are most likely simply noticing things that have been there all the time - just unnoticed. If you do find you have one of these eye conditions, then, just as I was instructed to, ignore it! The problem goes away very quickly once ignored. I do still notice visual snow at night because that is a harder one to ignore, but it's also less of a serious/debilitating problem so it doesn't bother me.

Hope this helps some people :)
 
Wow. I am very glad to read this. I still have what they call visual snow or that static, but this restores much hope. Thank you!
 
thanks for posting this, i'm sure it will reassure a lot of people.

I myself experience flashbacks rather more frequently than some people - probably because I started using psychedelics at the age of 15 (most people don't recommend you use them until your brain has stopped developing). I experience morphing, movement, patter distortion and other such visual effects, along side a slight psychedelic feeling, up to several times a week.

I used to hate this and feel I had a mild form of HPPD, however, after several years, I'm not used to it and it no longer bothers me - simply ignoring it, as you suggest, restores me to a usual state of mind and vision. Often, if i'm not busy, I'll simply enjoy the effects.

peace
 
thanks for posting this, i'm sure it will reassure a lot of people.

I myself experience flashbacks rather more frequently than some people - probably because I started using psychedelics at the age of 15 (most people don't recommend you use them until your brain has stopped developing). I experience morphing, movement, patter distortion and other such visual effects, along side a slight psychedelic feeling, up to several times a week.

I used to hate this and feel I had a mild form of HPPD, however, after several years, I'm not used to it and it no longer bothers me - simply ignoring it, as you suggest, restores me to a usual state of mind and vision. Often, if i'm not busy, I'll simply enjoy the effects.

peace

It's interesting to hear that ignoring it can help with actual HPPD itself too. This is good to hear, maybe people with actual HPPD should try that too and hopefully more people will be able to be in control of their HPPD :)
 
Am I the only one who loves my constant swirling vortex of static and pretty colours, I don't see it as a problem :)
 
Interesting, i'm short sighted too (my lenses are -5 & -5.5), i've always had visual static and floaters, though i certainly notice the static more since i started tripping. I'd always assumed it was a combination of being more aware of it and a slight increase due to the drugs.
Its never bothered me, when i was younger i assumed everyone had visual snow at night/looking at the sky/etc
 
i think ignoring my possible (probably not actually) HPPD made it go away.

in fact I think thinking about it may have caused it in the first place, not the drugs. 8)
 
It's interesting to hear that ignoring it can help with actual HPPD itself too. This is good to hear, maybe people with actual HPPD should try that too and hopefully more people will be able to be in control of their HPPD :)

I have to disagree that ignoring can help somebody with a serious problem. I don't have HPPD technically (it doesn't interfere with my life, so no), but it's a bit hard to ignore trails and inching persian carpet visuals constantly.

Lingering PSYCHEDELIC visuals include increased floaters and static for me, but I feel that most everybody has these.
 
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