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black53

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Mine is a combo of 5 and 6 apb (around 75mg each). I love the fact that it's not too stimulating (actually fell asleep while on it once by accident, didn't think that was possible before but I guess it is), a little trippy (nice visuals), really improves your mood, makes you more talkative and gives me no sides nor comedown (back when it was still legal in the UK and thus easy to get I abused it hard for a few months (2-3 days in a row, 5 days off, repeat, with an occasional week off and sometimes the 5/6 combo was replaced by 5-mapb)). I know the abuse was stupid and that I'm lucky but it didn't leave any bad effects, I just felt normal when off. Still I wouldn't suggest this to anyone because I've read reports of bad comedowns from much less. Anyway since they became illegal in the UK they are much harder to get so I couldn't abuse it even if I wanted to and I don't because I've pushed my luck enough.

The others I've tried are mdma, 5-mapb, mdai, 5-apdb, mdai+ethylphenidate, 5-apdb + ethylphenidate. Would like to try mda, 6-mapb, 6-apdb, al-lad + 5/6 apb (love both on their own so...), not sure about 5-eapb, the trip reports I've read just aren't that impressive.

Yes, I'd pick a combo of 5 and 6 apb over mdma.

On their own neither 5 nor 6 apb are that great but the combo is just magic.

Mdai is also under appreciated as far as I'm concerned.

So which is your favorite and why?
 
MDMA & 6-APB :)

Definitely do not need any explanation hahaha <3!


That's crazy how you fell asleep! I didn't think it was possible either! I didn't think it was impossible but that was certainly the first time I've ever heard about it happening to someone without the peak having worn off. Good to hear the abuse hasn't caused you any incredibly noticeable side effects.
 
Yes, I'd never think it was possible either. But they were a little late (we were supposed to meet in a pub but I got a text saying they'd be like 15min late), I decided to lay down a bit, next thing I know my phone is ringing and they are asking me if I intend to come because I was 1h late and I was still peaking. Never tried sleeping on that again, but it definitely feels good to just lay down and think abut things while watching your arm leave trails as you move it in the air.

Anyway, that is also probably why I prefer them over MDMA - I like nice and relaxed nights out with friends but don't really enjoy clubbing/dancing/....

Yes, I'm grateful I got lucky and suffered not bad effects from my abuse. Maybe the UK ban actually saved me, because they aren't nearly as available as before (think that's more likely than me being a special snowflake with different brain chemistry that makes me immune from the side effects from abuse of serotonin releasers).
 
Well, this thread is making me want to try MDA (isn't that actually supposed to be similar to the apbs?) :)

Anyone enjoyed 5-eapb? I mean more or at least as much as the other ones?
 
@Folley
Yes that's what I read as well, so I didn't even bother trying it. But I'm still curious if anyone tried it and liked it a lot.... I mean I love MDAI while most people find it meh...

@severely etarded
I knew about the molecules being similar..... are the effects similar too?
 
^^ it's not really as euphoric, but that doesn't mean it's worse. It's almost a more manageable euphoria, more directed instead of just orgasming out of every pore in your body


How many times have you done MDA? I used to think the same, but once the novelty wears off I started preferring MDMA. MDA is a lot better at home if you just want to melt into the floor and do nothing, but MDMA has a LOT more empathy that makes doing it with other people SOOO much better. Obviously both combined are still the BEST, but if I could only have one or the other it'd probably be MDMA

With MDA it just feels too good to sit and do nothing haha, makes it so you end up missing a lot of the roll just because you're too monged out to do anything
 
Folley said:
It's not really a classic empathogen, but 2C-B is really one of my all time favorites. Such amazing euphoria, and the visuals and headspace are second to none.
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I agree with mr Folley here, 2CB is one hell of a ride. It has the euphoria and energy of about 80mg of MDMA, combined with LSD visuals and a relatively clear head. There's also it's physical component which makes dancing in raves a trip for your body basically(much deeper than the physical connection you feel with MDMA imo).

My favorite emphatogen is MDMA hands down, there's just no beating it and there's a reason why it's the fastest spreading drug in history. My favorite emphathogenic high though is 2CB+MDMA, I seriously don't think you can get a better high off any other substance/combination of substances.
 
I'm not sure i'd present it like that, it's a psychedelic in the full sense of the word. and a major one at that. i've had some very dysphoric moments on 2CB and two ++++s. I think it's just a different beast.
 
It can very well be, i'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that the reason people don't look at it as an obvious emphatogen compared to MDMA is because they serve two different functions - the former being a psychedelic with clear empathic and tactile overtones(meaning the experience is less easy and much more far out there), and the latter being a full blown homo fest and a predictable experience.
 
> ^^ it's not really as euphoric, but that doesn't mean it's worse. It's almost a more manageable euphoria, more directed instead of just orgasming out of every pore in your body
Is it trippy at all? That's one of the things I like about the apb combo.

And I agree with you that there is overlap between empathogens and psys.
 
AMT hands down. outrageously pleasant experience which has lasted up to 22 hours for me...
 
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