The Wizard
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- May 29, 2007
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I'm so jealous of you guys who've gotten to try DPT, DMT and Ayahuasca. Those 3 are high up on my list of hallucinogens I'd most like to try. Shulgin's descriptions of his DPT experiences, as well as Erowid's trip reports, and the fact NY has a church which uses DPT sacramentally (The Temple of the True Inner Light is it called) have me really wanting to try it.
I don't see it offered much though on the research chemical market anymore and the suppliers I do see I fear aren't legit or could get hot. And these days no one wants to give out their sources for RC's so it's really hard to get in the loop unless you already know the right people. It was sooo nice last year when stuff like 2CE was still so readily available from reliable vendors.
If I had access to 2CE now I don't know if I'd even do it much as I built up a heavy permanent tolerance. The magic totally disappeared unless I did it in an interesting setting. If I was to do 2CE again I think I'd want to combine it with a Tryptamine psychedelic and some good MJ to add the right sparkle to it. I find Phenethylamine and Tryptamine psychedelics are sooo much better sometimes when combined than taken alone.
I would suggest never doing LSD again. No one should do it more than once or twice a month really.
It's wierd how you've lost the "magic" of LSD, but you like LSA. I tried LSA before LSD, when my tolerance to every drug was pretty low, Puruvian Hawaiin Baby WR, and that shit made my stomach hurt like none other. The whole trip was just an anticipation of when it would be over, when my body would stop hurting. I wouldn't reccomend LSA to anyone...LSD is a beautiul thing to me, but I only do it 2-3 times a year. Every time is mindblowing and magical.
I'd say if any of you guys have had really weak experiences with LSA (in the form of HBW, MG or Rivea seeds) you either A) got old or improperly stored seeds (heat, air, light, moisture weaken them), B) got a weak strain (like HBW from India or Ghana), C) prepared the seeds wrong, D) did them in the wrong set and setting, E) did too low a dose, F) already have a high tolerance to psychedelics or G) had the wrong expectations going into the experience.
Fresh, untreated, high quality Hawaiian Baby Woodrose or Morning Glory seeds prepared right (grind your seeds to a very fine powder via a coffee grinder and put them in capsules and mix them in a thick, sweet beverage like a malt, smoothie or frosty), taken at the right dosage, in the right set and setting can be QUITE a powerful, inspiring, mystical, lifechanging experience. I talk to so many people who gave up on LSA too soon after only trying it once or twice and didn't have the patience to through trial and error find the right seed varieties and dosage.
If you got such horrible nausea you prob. had too much food in your stomach and got a bad batch of HBW. I've tried HBW from 6 different vendors and some companies sell HBW which for some reason cause MUCH more nausea and cramps than other HBW varieties. If you get really dirty feeling HBW even a low dose might cause severe nausea and/or cramps whereas with really clean feeling HBW a higher dose can feel fine.
I wish so many psychonauts didn't right off LSA-containing seeds as just legal bullshit and instead only have an interest in the more popular mainstream psychedelics. These people have no idea what theyre missing out on. If you are a serious lover of Psilocybe, LSD, Mescaline, 2CE or X I highly recommend you try LSA enough to have a fullblown powerful breakthrough experience. The thing about HBW and MG you're going to have to actually do a good bit of research before trying the seeds to know where to get them, how to prepare them and what set and setting to go into the trip with. It isn't a psychedelic you can just rush into whereas more hedonistic psychedelics can be (like E).
When a guy like me who has gotten down with Cid over a hundred times, rolled over 50 times probably, done 2CE somewhere between 30 and 50 times prob., DXM prob. over 500 times, Psilocybe prob. somewhere around 20 times and IMed and IVed K man times (usually 100-200 mg at a time) tells you LSA is right up there with any of those insight and euphoriA wise maybe you should look into giving HBW/MG/Rivea a shot. By the way, Rivea supposedly causes little to no nausea at all. if you're afraid to try LSA because of the potential nausea. Holla at me if you need sources for any of these seeds, particularly HBW.
I don't see it offered much though on the research chemical market anymore and the suppliers I do see I fear aren't legit or could get hot. And these days no one wants to give out their sources for RC's so it's really hard to get in the loop unless you already know the right people. It was sooo nice last year when stuff like 2CE was still so readily available from reliable vendors.
If I had access to 2CE now I don't know if I'd even do it much as I built up a heavy permanent tolerance. The magic totally disappeared unless I did it in an interesting setting. If I was to do 2CE again I think I'd want to combine it with a Tryptamine psychedelic and some good MJ to add the right sparkle to it. I find Phenethylamine and Tryptamine psychedelics are sooo much better sometimes when combined than taken alone.
I would suggest never doing LSD again. No one should do it more than once or twice a month really.
It's wierd how you've lost the "magic" of LSD, but you like LSA. I tried LSA before LSD, when my tolerance to every drug was pretty low, Puruvian Hawaiin Baby WR, and that shit made my stomach hurt like none other. The whole trip was just an anticipation of when it would be over, when my body would stop hurting. I wouldn't reccomend LSA to anyone...LSD is a beautiul thing to me, but I only do it 2-3 times a year. Every time is mindblowing and magical.
I'd say if any of you guys have had really weak experiences with LSA (in the form of HBW, MG or Rivea seeds) you either A) got old or improperly stored seeds (heat, air, light, moisture weaken them), B) got a weak strain (like HBW from India or Ghana), C) prepared the seeds wrong, D) did them in the wrong set and setting, E) did too low a dose, F) already have a high tolerance to psychedelics or G) had the wrong expectations going into the experience.
Fresh, untreated, high quality Hawaiian Baby Woodrose or Morning Glory seeds prepared right (grind your seeds to a very fine powder via a coffee grinder and put them in capsules and mix them in a thick, sweet beverage like a malt, smoothie or frosty), taken at the right dosage, in the right set and setting can be QUITE a powerful, inspiring, mystical, lifechanging experience. I talk to so many people who gave up on LSA too soon after only trying it once or twice and didn't have the patience to through trial and error find the right seed varieties and dosage.
If you got such horrible nausea you prob. had too much food in your stomach and got a bad batch of HBW. I've tried HBW from 6 different vendors and some companies sell HBW which for some reason cause MUCH more nausea and cramps than other HBW varieties. If you get really dirty feeling HBW even a low dose might cause severe nausea and/or cramps whereas with really clean feeling HBW a higher dose can feel fine.
I wish so many psychonauts didn't right off LSA-containing seeds as just legal bullshit and instead only have an interest in the more popular mainstream psychedelics. These people have no idea what theyre missing out on. If you are a serious lover of Psilocybe, LSD, Mescaline, 2CE or X I highly recommend you try LSA enough to have a fullblown powerful breakthrough experience. The thing about HBW and MG you're going to have to actually do a good bit of research before trying the seeds to know where to get them, how to prepare them and what set and setting to go into the trip with. It isn't a psychedelic you can just rush into whereas more hedonistic psychedelics can be (like E).
When a guy like me who has gotten down with Cid over a hundred times, rolled over 50 times probably, done 2CE somewhere between 30 and 50 times prob., DXM prob. over 500 times, Psilocybe prob. somewhere around 20 times and IMed and IVed K man times (usually 100-200 mg at a time) tells you LSA is right up there with any of those insight and euphoriA wise maybe you should look into giving HBW/MG/Rivea a shot. By the way, Rivea supposedly causes little to no nausea at all. if you're afraid to try LSA because of the potential nausea. Holla at me if you need sources for any of these seeds, particularly HBW.
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