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Ye old 2C-T-4 thread

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VictorBorge said:
THAT doesn't sound good...

What did you like about the effects, though?
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I like the confused, bizarre, tangential thoughts that I get. I can't really explain how I feel on it, but it's very unique. I don't compare it to t7 AT ALL, as others have. It's different, but not in a bad way. The t4 trip is special because you don't *fucked up* on it. You're just kind of detached from reality. Very drifty, spacey thoughts. I get caught up in my mind, and blurt out things that make no sense at all, because I'm so deep into the weird ideas that are going on. And yet it's not hard to pull it together and have a half way normal conversation, but it doesn't last long.

The visuals are mild, and the body buzz is decent if the nausea is absent. I think that if you want more specifics, I'll have to remember to post during or right after I try it again. It's definitely on my list of "favorites," if that means anything.
 
^^^^^^

The "detachment from reality" that you mentioned. It reminds me of my 2C-T-4 trip. In the end, 2C-T-4 reminded me more of a cross between dissociative and a psychedelic. It was very different that the other 2Cs. Would you use the word "dissociative" to describe the nature of 2C-T-4 at all?

Note: After reading Vibr8tor's post again, I see she did describe it as dissociating. So my question was answered. Silly me. :)
 
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Clockwise said:
I know two people who just recently did this stuff, and they say they had spectacular and colourful experiences. Sadly, most people who take trips don't write to Erowid or anything, but I'll try to convince them to do so.
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What dosages did they take? Did they eat it?
 
Thank you for sharing some valuable info, vibr8tor. :)

I look forward to trying this chem out one day, only the consistent nausea worries me. Haven't you tried to counteract it with something like weed, ginger, other medications..? Oh well, I'll bring a bucket.

For some reason this chem reminds me a bit of AMT, though they're incredibly different in effects, there are some identical as well. Duration, a bit dissociative/lethargic/detached, and the nausea.. Only AMT has a far more "friendly nausea" from what I've read about 2C-T-4.
 
I doubt 2C-T-4 is anything like AMT. Granted I have not taken AMT, but what I read about AMT is nothing like what I experiened on 2C-T-4. The similarities are limited to surface things, like that they both make you sick and both can last a long time.
 
I know, it just made me a bit nostalgic I presume. :)

Btw, what does everyone recommend trying out for their first time? Obviously something lower as 10 mg, as this one has a wide variation in effects (compared to the Alephs by Shulgie).

I thought starting with 4 mg.
 
I'd say 4mg to 6mg, or for the more risky, no more than 8mg on a first time 2C-T-4 trip if you want to be smart. Obviously I was not very smart the first time I tried this. :) At least I stayed within Shulgin's dosing recommendations. I don't consider it a super-stupid/you are a dumb motherfucker thing until you excede the maxium Shulgin-recommended dosage on your first time.

I've only a superstupid/you are a dumb motherfucker a few times. I went over Shulgin's dosing recommendations only three times I think; I took 24mg of iprocin my first time (Shulgin say's no more than 20mg) and I took 26mg of 2C-I my first time (Shulgin say's no more than 22mg I recall).

But the first time I tried 2C-T-7, which was back in 2000, I took 50mg. Now that was REALLY stupid of me, but in my own defense, it was before psychedelic research chemicals really had gotten big, and at the time I had read little of the great variability these designer psychedelics can have. Erowid had listed 50mg as a high dose and so I took that dose, as I was looking to trip my balls off. And I did! Lord, ever did I! 8o

That trip taught me a lot, because I'd never tripped like that before. Not even with LSD. At the peak, I couldn't even see over the colors and fractals! I shit you not. I truly know what they mean by "psychedelic soup." A report is at erowid. I've never gone that high over Shulgin's dosages with anything after that.
 
morninggloryseed said:
I doubt 2C-T-4 is anything like AMT.
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Correct! They feel nothing at all alike. Even the time thing doesn't compare for me at least; T4 hits me literally twice as long. AMT is fun and emotional, makes my body feel smacked out and my insides feel tweaked, and always promises ground-shaking sex on the comedown. Gotta love that. T4 isn't like a roller coaster, it's like a balloon ride that gradually goes up and up and you just hover there. It's not crazy; it's just an experience. One without come-down sex. But they're equally emotional and helpful with bonding, if you do them with someone close.

and looking back at my post, I was wrong about how I dose. I took 18mg, not 20.
 
2c-t-4 felt a lot like a trippy methylone. Unlike methylone, the euphoria felt natural, never forced or synthetic. Parts of the trip were very cosmic, out of body feeling not noted in other 2c's.
 
It seems to me like 2C-T-4 is kind of a dud. I am sure as hell not gonna search and try if I too get the extreme time dilation, no visuals and just wishing it would go away.

There is also a Big & Dandy 2C-T-4 Thread for this so if you don't mind I'll copy yer post
to it and designate this here the Old 2C-T-4 Scraps :)
 
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