y xtract mescaline?

[Ph0r.W3-R-m4ny]

Ive been doing some reading about mescaline and the cacti it is found in. Also have seen a lot of things mentioning extracting it. It doesn't seem all that hard to do, but why bother really when you can just eat the cactus? I have not seen anything written about it, but if you had powder pure mescaline could you snort it? does it make you get less sick? just to reduce the volume and make it easier to hide? or like a novelty thing? or all of this?

 

[!SIS]

Erowid has loads of tutorials on extraction depending on what you're trying to get mescaline from. I posted this tek in another thread just a few moments ago,

"Highest dose I've taken is 50gs of San Pedro which is 400 to 500 mgs of mescaline according to some sources - erowid mainly. When I prepare chips, blend for 15 minutes then boil it for 4 hours - constantly topping water up. With the goop pour and sieve then squeeze remaining water from the plant matter with something like a pair of tights. Boil and stir the remaining liquid collected until it evaporates to a manageable amount. Consume shots every 10 minutes, chase it down with ginger beer to settle ya stomach. Easy riding an hour and 30 in.

edit - trip was 13 hours, pure bliss. no negatives then again that might be because of experience."

You can try eating pedro/torch chips or cuttings but good luck with that. All the good stuff is in the skins of the cacti. Peyote is the easiest cacti to eat because it has the highest mescaline content.

 

[Survived Abortion]

It's probably for several reasons: it's difficult to be sure of your dose when eating the cactus, and some people find it hard to consume. I've managed to eat the San Pedro by way of making a tea, but I'm not sure I would eat it raw. The flesh itself is even harder to stomach than drinking the tea. It's actually making me gag thinking about it now. You've got to have a strong stomach, but it's good if you can get through that stage, because the trip is wonderful.

I'll be doing an alkaloid extraction next time I use mescaline. I just find the whole process of eating the flesh so messy. I would also like to be able to weigh out my dose of alkaloids and be sure I'm going to get a strong trip. You can also put the doses in capsules and take them out on a hike or whatever. That way you don't have to dose at home and then rush out.

While the cactus experience is lovely, if I wanted a fully immersive trip I might have to eat and drink more San Pedro than I could stomach. That's why I would use the mescaline extraction. Peyote would be easier though, since there's not as much flesh to consume.

for mescaline.

 

[Solipsis]

Gulping down a vile bitter slime is just aversive to a lot of people including me. It is just really hard to get down enough to make it work plus you don't know how much is in there, how active your dose will be.
With synthetic crystal that is a totally different story. Some part of the cactus experience may be lost if it is pure mescaline instead of a mix of alkaloids though. So a purified alkaloid mix may be even better than synthetic mescaline.
I think I also find a DMT alkaloid mix better than synthetic DMT, though that doesn't mean I want any impurities in there that are not active.

 

[vibrancy3]

Gulping down a vile bitter slime is just aversive to a lot of people including me. It is just really hard to get down enough to make it work plus you don't know how much is in there

I remeber when i 1st tried drinking down like 1l of this green slime, ooh it was unbearable, tried adding lemonade 4 some reason just made it sparkling green slime. tl:dr......

Did'nt get any effect really cause i could'nt drink all the mesc juice!!!

Currently saving up to do 69rons tek, just that damm food dehydrator to get (soo xpensive) grrrrrr

 

[rouss]

I have eaten a san pedro . It is sick

 

[helium-4]

I probably would choose an extraction route for the first few mescaline/related alkaloid experiences (still haven't gotten around to getting the most important material). I like to do as much as I can to diminish the potential for body load or vomiting during psychedelic experiences, and I'm more than willing to lose some potential synergistic alkaloids for that purpose. I also find that marijuana or dissociatives can supplement/become a wonderful addition to traditional psychedelics by adding a bit more depth to the experience. So if need be, I can find a way to increase the breadth

Also, being a chemisty/chemistry student, it becomes a fun project that is extremely rewarding. Nothing like watching you go from a large quantity of plant matter to grams of psychedelic substances, whicht just leaves you salivating, especially when you take the time to do a little research/science. Extracting DMT is always a very enjoyable experience and only seems to add to the set of the DMT experiences as well as give you a greater appreciation for where the drug came from.

Not to mention, having an extracted product of a reasonable purity allows for more accurate dosing. Yeah, not many people have a GC laying around, but knowing the potential mescaline content for the species, as well as being able to titrate your dose with a concentrated product product that is consistent in it's purity for the batch produced allows for more controlled dosing. I for one never like to take drugs with out knowing exactly how much of what I'm consuming.

 

[Changed]

For me, the easiest route of administration is orally, with juice. I can't go into particulars right now, but suffice it to say that a blender and a boiling pot are all you need for a psychoactive experience beyond your wildest dreams.

edit: perhaps this isn't and extracting method. For me, drinking a ginger tea and fasting the day before results in no nausea. 12 inches of cactus is the standard dose, and that is all that is required for my chop, blend, and boil technique.

I shall revisit this thread when I'm not deep in the throws of chemical intoxication!

 

[Ph0r.W3-R-m4ny]

^I'll be back to write more later when I'm more capable, but last night I had a life changing time with extracted mescaline. It had been 3 years since I'd dosed. I feel like I've been falling from grace ever since and just now am back in focus. My life is about to get moving =)

 

[Ismene]

It's very difficult for most people to gulp down enough cactus snot to trip on. Plus the nausea is ferocious.

I think it would be pointless snoting mescaline crystal, you're better off simply swallowing it. Extracted mescaline (Like an a/b extraction on cactus) doesn't give you any nausea anyway.

I'll be back to write more later when I'm more capable, but last night I had a life changing time with extracted mescaline

What did this "extracted mescaline" look like?

 

[dg420]

12 inches of cactus is the standard dose, and that is all that is required for my chop, blend, and boil technique.

this is too strain and individual plant based to be accurate, as this is a harm reduction site, there are many trichocereus cacti potent in the 3-6" range

lucky (for anyone taking the (12" is a good dose) advice anyways), they are rare.

but potent cacti are becoming more readily avail. so i wish people would stop saying and giving this advice

 

[Enter Galactic]

The problem is that people don't want to waste it because the cactus cuttings tends to be expensive. I think Mescaline has a lower lethal dose than LSD or psilocybin, but are you going to be endangering yourself if you consume an extremely potent 12 inch cutting? I would think you probably only risk having a very strong trip. The obvious way to solve this is by extracting the Mescaline, but not everyone is going to work that hard at it and some may actually enjoy the preparation and consumption of tea. I have heard an extraction with completely food safe chemicals will work though, so I'd imagine anyone can manage it as long as they're not too lazy.

 

[jackie jones]

Because raw peruvian torch or san pedro is slimy and tastes like green peppers. How do you feel about the notion of eating five pounds of green peppers to get high? With a bit of patience, one can reduce a 12 inch cutting into a teaspoon of tar, which is much easier to consume and reduces body load and nausea significantly.

 

[dg420]

I think Mescaline has a lower lethal dose than LSD or psilocybin, but are you going to be endangering yourself if you consume an extremely potent 12 inch cutting?

maybe not, but advising someone to take what could be over a gram of mescaline isn't responsible advice

 

[Changed]

this is too strain and individual plant based to be accurate, as this is a harm reduction site, there are many trichocereus cacti potent in the 3-6" range

lucky (for anyone taking the (12" is a good dose) advice anyways), they are rare.

but potent cacti are becoming more readily avail. so i wish people would stop saying and giving this advice

Do you think that people give this advise because it is dangerous or untruthful?

Anyway, to be more specific and elaborate about my mescaline methodology (which I've shared before, but enjoy sharing still):

What you need:
-10-12" San Pedro cactus cutting (average thickness)
-blender
-large pot
-a knife, cutting board
-small amount of water, splash of citrus juice
-an old t-shirt

1. Chop the entire cactus (spines, white center-guts, everything) into small cubes. Place in blender w/ a splash of water, and blend thoroughly-- it will turn into a foamy paste.

2. Blend all cactus, and put into the pot. Turn on to medium high heat, and let cook for ~20 minutes, stirring regularly. You can add your splash of citrus juice now.

3. The foamy mixture will turn into a snotty paste after maybe 20 or 30 minutes. Place this paste into your spare t-shirt and squeeze the juice out of the pulp/foam (it is hot as hell, so let it cool a minute). Discard of the pulp (I like it fling into in the yard, allowing animals to eat it, or perhaps it simply melds with the earth, resulting in good feelings all around), and place your liquid back into your pot. Add a little water and simmer this, on lower heat, until the liquid has evaporated down to about a shot's worth-- it usually takes about 2 hours or less. Stir occasionally.

4. That's it. You can refrigerate or freeze and consume later, and it stores pretty much forever. Before drinking, I brew some ginger tea (boiling water + raw ginger chunk + honey) to prevent nausea, and fast the day of the trip. Never have nausea or an upset stomach, and the trips are intense. Enjoy!

 

[Ismene]

I think Mescaline has a lower lethal dose than LSD or psilocybin, but are you going to be endangering yourself if you consume an extremely potent 12 inch cutting? I would think you probably only risk having a very strong trip.

I don't think you'd have that strong a trip. Mescaline is a very gentle and forgiving psychedelic. Anyone experienced with mushrooms and LSD could probably take a gram and be fine. I remember a guy who wrote a book called "The secret cheif" said half a gram of mescaline was the dose he always gave beginners. For people more experienced obviously a bigger dose would be ok.

Mescaline is a beautiful drug, but I don't think it has the same overwhelming psychedelic kick as psilocybin and LSD.

I remember Hunter S Thompson saying he was "seeing bats" after he'd taken mescaline. What a bullshitter.

 

[dg420]

Do you think that people give this advise because it is dangerous or untruthful?

not really untruthful, but potentially inaccurate, but have you ever eaten 750-1000mg of mescaline?(not an exp everyone is ready for
its like saying 40-50mg of 2ci should be a nice starter dose

ps, why ad citrus? it is plenty acidic as is- and all alks are soluble in h20 w/o acid

for the average US "san pedro" 12" would be very mild, many contian .01-.5% alks
others are 2-5%

 

[Changed]

I add citrus because before I made the mixture the first time, somebody advised to do so. I did it, and I had an amazing trip, so I figured, 'Why stray from what works?' It might not do anything), but hey...

About 12 inches: I don't know if my metabolism is hyper-active, but I drank 6 inches my first trip and it was intense. I drank 12" of stressed SP and had a life-changing trip. Both cacti from the same source.

I don't really see all the fuss about dosage of mescaline-containing cactus, as a difference in dosage isn't likely to mean much. Mescaline is very gentle, and differences in grams doesn't make that much difference...

 

[Darkmatter77]

San Pedro tastes disgusting. Probably took me more than 15 minutes to eat a 30cm piece of San Pedro. And that wasn't even a heavy trip. I heard Peyote tastes even more disgusting.
Extracted mescaline probably enters the bloodstream faster, because there's not much plant material which has to be digested first.

 

[acidclouds]

Anyway, to be more specific and elaborate about my mescaline methodology (which I've shared before, but enjoy sharing still):

What you need:
-10-12" San Pedro cactus cutting (average thickness)
-blender
-large pot
-a knife, cutting board
-small amount of water, splash of citrus juice
-an old t-shirt

1. Chop the entire cactus (spines, white center-guts, everything) into small cubes. Place in blender w/ a splash of water, and blend thoroughly-- it will turn into a foamy paste.

2. Blend all cactus, and put into the pot. Turn on to medium high heat, and let cook for ~20 minutes, stirring regularly. You can add your splash of citrus juice now.

3. The foamy mixture will turn into a snotty paste after maybe 20 or 30 minutes. Place this paste into your spare t-shirt and squeeze the juice out of the pulp/foam (it is hot as hell, so let it cool a minute). Discard of the pulp (I like it fling into in the yard, allowing animals to eat it, or perhaps it simply melds with the earth, resulting in good feelings all around), and place your liquid back into your pot. Add a little water and simmer this, on lower heat, until the liquid has evaporated down to about a shot's worth-- it usually takes about 2 hours or less. Stir occasionally.

4. That's it. You can refrigerate or freeze and consume later, and it stores pretty much forever. Before drinking, I brew some ginger tea (boiling water + raw ginger chunk + honey) to prevent nausea, and fast the day of the trip. Never have nausea or an upset stomach, and the trips are intense. Enjoy!

I have heard that ypu should do 3 boils (as in strain the water and use the strained out bits in new water another two times) and each boil should be 3 hours. Is this unnecesary?