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Benzos Xanax Withdrawal?

Woodsong

Woodsong

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Well, I fucked up big time...

I'd been clean for about a month and a half until the night before last. To make a long story short, I probably consumed about 40mg of Xanax in less than a night. I haven't the slightest clue how I managed to drive the 25 miles back to my house without being put in jail or crashing to my death, though I do slightly remember running off the road at one point... There doesn't seem to be any damage to my truck though, apart from a bulge in my front left tire...

I'm a fucking idiot, I know... I must have a guardian angel looking out for my dumb ass, cause this isn't the first time I've done this...

Anyway... It's two days later now, and I'm starting to feel rather lightheaded and just generally crappy... I'm kind of worried that I might be experiencing some degree of withdrawal, though I've gone on much longer binges of about the same severity without any such consequence. I don't know what benzodiazepine withdrawal feels like, is it possible that I'm in enough trouble to start having seizures or what have you?
 
dude id get checked out, you may have done some serious liver damage who knows, i just sent someone a pm explaining im concerned i took 9.25 mg of klopopin in the last 2 weeks and was concerned for WD. dude you need to seriously thank god whole heartedly and stop doing that shit, who knows how many more free lives you got. you could have tangled around a tree and been unconcsious in a burning car (happened to a friend). i doubt its wd, but it could be. i am speechless as to what would possess a person to take that much yewozers! im pretty sure dependency delvelops overtime, sounds like you just shocked your system. be careful man.

i got a Q for you... i know xanax redoses well, if you take 2 mg about 3 hours later its fading fast. but 2 more mg gets you right back there. does klonopin work the same way? if i take 2mg and 4 hours later, take 2mg more, will i be right back where i was, or no? ive never once tried redosing it, i always keep 3 days between. but there are times, i could REALLY use a redose but i dont want to waste my meds or unescessarily build up my half life for a wasted reason, risking wd's
 
@Aphex747
Can Xanax really cause liver damage??

I don't know why I took that much....... I simply have absolutely no control over myself once that first dose kicks in. I will just keep redosing and redosing and redosing until I either run out or black out... It pisses me off that I waste it like I do, it's just never enough......

I'm not that familiar with Klonopin, so I can't really say how it works in comparison to Xanax... :/
 
i dont know that it can, but people who take a 40 pill bottle of tylenol pm need to get there stomach pumped. just be careful bro is all, i lost a friend and have many blackout stories that do involve driving like 90mph down the residential street i lived on. the higher you get on benzos (especially xanax) the more rowdy you get, lol i know trust me. if you dont have any symptoms that you feel are SERIOUS, just give it another day or two and see how your doing. if you have health insurance and its affordable to make an appointment, it wouldnt be the biggest waste of time, im sure. thank God for those gardian angels bro. i know ive got one looking out for me as well : ) good luck, and update us, so we know your all good. -aphex
 
aphex, the liver concern with Tylenol is acetaminophen which tears apart your liver but there isn't any of that in xannex or klonopin.

to the OP: you are definitely lucky to be alive, try to use this experience as a lesson learned and a reminder the next time you feel tempted to use. As far as your w/d goes, I think the main concern for seizures during benzo w/d is for people who suddenly stop after a lengthy addiction(multiple months of daily use). you mentioned being clean for about a week before this, clean from what? If it was benzos and you made it a week before with out any symptoms you should be fine now, what you're feeling is most likely rebound anxiety which occurs after consuming a large dose of benzos over a short period of time but as long as you made it through the extreme respiratory depression fine i don't think there is any more danger just a day or two of feeling pretty shitty. but I'm not a doctor so if you don't start feeling better or start feeling worse its always better to be safe than sorry
 
Would it be a good idea to take some clonidine? I get the feeling my blood pressure is kinda high right now, and I'm just nervous as all hell...
 
eh i call bullshit on the liver damage. benzos certainly aren't healthy, but you'll do a considerably larger amount of liver damage if you drink, say, a pint of vodka. 40mgs certainly won't do noticable damage.
 
i was just giving a worst case scenario on liver damage. id never take 40 mg of xanax. in a month. Lol and i know acetaminophen and all about it, i get the norcos for that reason. but im just trying to help the dude out, i never claimed to be the farmers almanac
 
Yeah, no liver damage from benzos except oxazepam wich might have been a little hepatotoxic.

I have a similar experience when I had been about two years without benzos feeling depressed and sad (after rehab) and was drinking one night. The booze didn't effect much that night so I thought I will take some temazepam wich my friend had just gaven me that night. It was 20mg temazepam tablets (bottle of 100 tablets) and finally I consumed the whole bottle with whiskey over 12h period. I don't know why but my tolerance to sedatives has allways been high and I haven't never blacked out because of booze only. All that was caused by that mistake was I could cry and let my feelings out (not hurting anybody). It was kind of cleaning experience. Afterwards some effects lasted about two or three days but after that I didn't experienced anything wich would be called withdrawals or rebound. Only my same old negative feelings came back.

So I don't believe there is much worries with seizures especially if you don't have epilepsia or similar neurological condition and haven't seized before. Seizures are not very usual but they does happen sometimes but usually as above poster said only when large quantities are used over long period and then abruptly discontinued. I would suggest you keep some xanax in your pocket and if you start to have some weird symptoms ex. tingling feeling, visual distortions, muscle spasms or other physical symptoms then they might predict seizure. But to my knowledge there is minimal chance for seizure if you are feeling about normal meaning you aren't ex. shaking, vormiting, disoriented etc.

Edit: If you want to play safe then if I were you I would take ex. 2mg xanax now or tomorrow. You said it has been two days now from accident so xanax half-life is about ~12h and you consumed 80mg? So if its thirth day now you would have estimate of 1,25mg xanax on your blood. Seizures usually happens on thirth day from abrupt discontinuation but in your case it might be fourth or fifth day when you have rough estimate of ~ 0,3 and 0,07mg xanax on your blood. So basically nothing and thats when seizures happens if they happen. So to be safe I would maybe take 1-2mg xanax tomorrow (or thirth day) and maybe 0,5mg day after that. Best option of course would be 10mg diazepam now and that would keep you safe from seizures and give you dradual decline in plasma levels.
 
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I think you just have a "hangover" from the benzos it happen to me siometimes. Probably some kind of rebound with the gaba receptors but its not withdrawal.
 
Aphex747 said:
i was just giving a worst case scenario on liver damage. id never take 40 mg of xanax. in a month. Lol and i know acetaminophen and all about it, i get the norcos for that reason. but im just trying to help the dude out, i never claimed to be the farmers almanac
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In general, before you offer advice make sure what you're saying is based in fact. Most benzodiazepines are very non-toxic like most opioids (except Methadone and similar ones) and shouldn't specifically cause organ damage. APAP toxicity is in a completely different ballpark.

Second to that, try not to be so judgmental. The purpose of this site is to give harm reduction advice, not beat people over the head for mistakes most of us have all made at one point or another in our habits.
 
benzos do not cause liver damage, maybe some brain damage but those studies are controversial. 40mg of xanax in a month is nothing.
 
i wasnt judgmental, i tried to make light of the giant mistake he made. dont you have better things to do than critique my posts? i never said he had liver damage, i said thats the worst thing i could see happenening without doing the research HE could do on his own through google even, and i never said it did give him any kind of damage. i gave him good advice, i dont need to sugarcoat harm reduction. thanks for trying to correct me. quite helpful
 
^robo, your absolutely right, 40 mg of xanax in a month is almost standard. he took them in less than A NIGHT. little bit of a difference there. again, thanks for correcting me guys, instead of giving this dude some helpful advice. the people who get on here and play politics and act like wannabe mods are a joke.
 
Since you took so many i think it is a mix of a benzo hang over, and a short withdrawal. Xanax is an extremely potent short acting benzo, with the dose you took i don't know how you wouldn't withdrawal even though it was like 1 day. You messed with your gaba levels quite a bit, so you will have a head ache, feel antsy, spacey, all of that bad stuff. Sucks you can't control your self man, i could make 40mg last over 2 months easy, just save it for the nights you wanna go out.
 
It is True Benzodiazepines most but not all are processed through the Liver but guess what so is smoking Tobacco there is a study where people with Hepatitis C made there Livers fail quicker from smoking.... That is the only case I can see Benzos fucking your Liver up cuz it is processed by it. But like others have said it is Tylenol and things such as Alcohol that TRULY fuck your Liver up.
 
yea, i get your point thomas, i was just giving an example of what a massive overdose can do to your mind and organs. im no doctor. but if i took 40 mg in one night, id be seeing one the next day. thats literally almost the equivelant of consuming an entire gram of etizolam powder in a 24 hour period. since xanax is alot stronger than etizolam.
 
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