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Xanax for a Methamphetamine "come down"?

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drfeelgood1

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How much Xanax a meth user should take for a meth come down?
Im not a meth user (and never will be), but I am just curious the amount of Xanax or any other benzos for a Meth come down.
 
I can't remember how much xanax I used to take. Not to come down necessarily. I just don't take them anymore.
I take 8 or 1o mg klonopin on certain occasions.
Life itself can be a fuckin stim.
 
It depends on a person's usual benzo tolerance. I have never used meth so I don't know for sure, but when I used to snort a lot of coke or take normal speed I would have to take more than my usual dose of diazepam to get to sleep. I am reluctant to start spouting numbers cause I wouldn't want people to read it and think it was OK to take that amount but I used to have to take a lot, and I believe that meth is a hell of a lot stronger than normal speed. If possible a person would be better with actual sleepers such as Nitrazepam or Temazepam (but they are a LOT easier to OD on than diaz or xanax)

But it does take a lot. When I used to take speed I could munch a lot of diazepam before I managed to come down and get some sleep. When I did though, I was out cold for 12 hours.
 
Just a couple 1mg Klonopin works fantastic for my Adderall (amphetamine) comedowns.

I think it really depends on the stipulations of the meth comedown you speak of. For instance, If you (or whoever is experiencing the comedown) had been up on a bender for 3 days using meth, as little as 0.5mg might do the trick perfectly due to the already present sleep deprivation effects you (or your friend) might be having. But if one just used meth for a 8-12 hour period, it might take a little more of the benzo to have a desired effect.

Also - when I have mixed benzos with speed in the past, sometimes the combo of the two makes me hallucinate pretty heavily. I enjoy the hallucinations but it can be pretty intense and scary to someone who doesn't enjoy tripping or has never done hallucinogenic inducing drugs
 
s2k1099 said:
Also - when I have mixed benzos with speed in the past, sometimes the combo of the two makes me hallucinate pretty heavily. I enjoy the hallucinations but it can be pretty intense and scary to someone who doesn't enjoy tripping or has never done hallucinogenic inducing drugs
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Really?? That is insane. I have never had that. That would freak me out.
 
DavidWhy said:
Really?? That is insane. I have never had that. That would freak me out.
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I had been up for 6 days on an adderall bender when it had happened. I think the effects i was having were caused by lack of sleep. it was like my mind was merging a dream state with reality.

pretty crazy shit. which is why i was mentioning how the stipulations prior to the comedown were important
 
s2k1099 said:
Also - when I have mixed benzos with speed in the past, sometimes the combo of the two makes me hallucinate pretty heavily. I enjoy the hallucinations but it can be pretty intense and scary to someone who doesn't enjoy tripping or has never done hallucinogenic inducing drugs
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^^totally.
Thank you, +1 harm reduction.
I can have hallucinations that are fascinating to me. Hard hallucination that I can't get out of is scary. I learned how to avoid those. Some drugs harsh me, some drugs work to my liking.

A person has to figure out him or her self what will work to get there... where the substance guides.
 
ugly said:
I take 8 or 1o mg klonopin on certain occasions.
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That seems like a lot! I would not suggest that for someone with no tolerance. I'm assuming you have a tolerance?

drfeelgood1:
As for Xanax (alprazolam), I would say 0.5mg or 1mg should be enough to start with for someone who doesn't use benzos regularly. (I'd say around the same dosage for Klonopin (clonazepam)). It generally really shouldn't require high doses. You can check out the benzo equivalency chart, but note that different benzos have slighlty different properties, for example some are more sedating than others, plus they last for different amounts of time and take different amounts of time to kick in.

But there are so many variables here and if you're not even asking for yourself I don't know how anyone can really give you an accurate answer - it really depends on the person, whether or not they normally use benzos, how much meth they've been using and for how long, how long they've gone without sleep, whether you mean just to make the comedown more bearable or to rapidly induce sleep, if you mean when someone has psychosis or something, and so on.
 
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If you were awake for 6 days it is more likely that that is making you hallucinate. Staying awake for that length of time can literally send you insane.
 
Logically, sleep deprivation causes hallucinations.
Xanax is a tranquilizer.

So when you take the xanax after being awake for a long time (especially if stimulants are involved), your CNS is "calmed down" while those hallucinations are still there, hence the "cool hallucinations".
This is short lived however as you will either fall asleep, or chill out(because of the xanax), causing the hallucinations to disappear.
 
Swimmingdancer said:
That seems like a lot! I would not suggest that for someone with no tolerance. I'm assuming you have a tolerance?

drfeelgood1:
As for Xanax (alprazolam), I would say 0.5mg or 1mg should be enough to start with for someone who doesn't use benzos regularly. (I'd say around the same dosage for Klonopin (clonazepam)). It generally really shouldn't require high doses. You can check out the benzo equivalency chart, but note that different benzos have slighlty different properties, for example some are more sedating than others, plus they last for different amounts of time and take different amounts of time to kick in.

But there are so many variables here and if you're not even asking for yourself I don't know how anyone can really give you an accurate answer - it really depends on the person, whether or not they normally use benzos, how much meth they've been using and for how long, how long they've gone without sleep, whether you mean just to make the comedown more bearable or to rapidly induce sleep, if you mean when someone has psychosis or something, and so on.
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This. I try to stay below 1mg clonazepam/alprazolam for stimulant comedowns. Gotta keep that tolerance down. But yes, Xanax (alprazolam) is effective for methamphetamine/amphetamine comedowns. Just remember that alprazolam is pretty short acting and methamphetamine is pretty long acting so you're going to want to take the Xanax when you're 100% sure you're really coming down.
 
i have a high benzo tolerance, but never took any for meth but for coke i would take like 2 10mg valium or a 2mg xanax for when i know i'm coming down, you will be able to tell. be safe.
 
I usually take around 2 mg clonazepam or diazepam since they are both long acting, which will negate the prolonged stimulation/vasoconstriction that meth causes. Of course if you don't have long acting benzos stick with what you got. I currently only have etizolam on hand and it seems to work for comedowns. Too bad its half life is only 6-7 hours. If I were you I would take either 2 mg clonazepam or 2 mg xanax or 3 mg etizolam. There are benzo conversion charts only so you can get an idea how strong each benzo is.
 
I have been on clonozapam for five years. If I have a panic attack, I will take 14 to 16 mg. My pills are 2 mg each. If I take one 2 mg pill, it does not register in my system. I'm scripted to get 60 2 mg tabs a month. Fortunately I have not been having panic attacks, but that is probably because I've been taking clonozopam. My tolerance is ridiculous.

The whole reason I am on clonozopam is that my tolerance for xanax was ridiculous and they switched me. My husband has a script for ativan, and I have used a combo of kpins and ativan. Particularly if my central nervous system was in a brutally harsh deflation mode. That combo was a winner for me personally, I don't know why. I went through a few crash landings before I found some way to avoid a crash and burn phase of misery.
 
Dude are you serious? Not judging or anything but 12-16 mg of clonazepam? That is a ridiculous dose and I bet you run out so quick. If I was you I would try to slowly titrate/lower your dose because you cannot be taking that high of a dose for the rest of your life. And it sure isnt very healthy. Once again not judging, just seriously worried about you. I cant imagine what kind of withdrawal would await you if you suddenly stopped
 
I am quite experienced in this realm, I've been using IV Meth for longer than I'd like to splurge, and have ALWAYS used either heroin (for years) alongside with it, or now benzos alongside to even out the high and essentially eliminate the comedown.
Any benzo is better than no benzo, be happy you have stuff and you're prepared, everyone should keep a small dosage of benzos handy (not just for amps,d-amps,shrooms!)

If you're trying potentiate the "Good" of your Meth high, and you have 0 to mild benzo tolerance (it's really not helpful when people talk their experiences of using 30mg XXXX here to do YYYYY, passive/aggressive and 0 solution offered)
Take a SMALL dose of Xanax, Clonazepam, etc while you're getting high (.25mg - .5mg); enjoy the anxiety-free high.

To "come-down", I prefer to let sleep come naturally than to beat it into submission with some benzos. But taking (1mg -xanax, clon 10mg, Valium) will help ease the negative thoughts/effects of the comedown, making it virtually non-existant.

BE CAREFUL! Benzos make Meth addiction SO easy to obtain. Meth depression coupled with benzo withdrawal or taper can be profound.
 
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ugly said:
I have been on clonozapam for five years. If I have a panic attack, I will take 14 to 16 mg. My pills are 2 mg each. If I take one 2 mg pill, it does not register in my system. I'm scripted to get 60 2 mg tabs a month. Fortunately I have not been having panic attacks, but that is probably because I've been taking clonozopam. My tolerance is ridiculous.

The whole reason I am on clonozopam is that my tolerance for xanax was ridiculous and they switched me. My husband has a script for ativan, and I have used a combo of kpins and ativan. Particularly if my central nervous system was in a brutally harsh deflation mode. That combo was a winner for me personally, I don't know why. I went through a few crash landings before I found some way to avoid a crash and burn phase of misery.
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EVERY Benzo thread has some heavily-dependent benzo users comment with their experience regarding how high they got in dosage, providing no solution to the topic at hand and ultimately de-railing AND debunking all harm reduction that is harmonizing already.
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