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Wtf just happened...

.Felix.

.Felix.

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four hours ago I was laying down with my girlfriend trying to deal with the come up of 4-aco-dmt. It was going smooth and the unpleasent bodyload soon turned into a pleasurable buzz. She was asleep and so I got up to finish the rest of my tainted drink. About 30MGs is what I was taking tonight. Now I have done this before and have taken it up to 40mgs mind you. Anyways, I smoked a whole bowl to myself of some nice weed.


This is when it started:

I was listening to music and all of a sudden my hands turned into people. they were moving, soon it was my whole arm and all of my visual perception it seemed. I started to freak out... I remember this, it was very identical to my Salvia trip, the first, last and only most horrific salvia trip of my life.

People, everywhere. Hallucinations through audio senses and mind fuck to the most extreme. I felt my body be mauled and abused.


I lost time and just snapped out of it...



was this an ego death or something more?



My girlfriend also told me to stop humming and I didnt know i was... i was just in my own void... dying and being born it felt like. I was so shitless scared....
 
Weed can surely give quite a boost to the intensity of psilocin/4-Aco-DMT.

I have been sent into some weird worlds by smoking a bowl on top of a mushroom trip.
 
If you were still scared, you have no quite made it to ego-death...sounds like you were knocking at the door
 
Twigs said:
Weed can surely give quite a boost to the intensity of psilocin/4-Aco-DMT.

I have been sent into some weird worlds by smoking a bowl on top of a mushroom trip.
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i agree.

Im a daily smoker, but when playing with powerful tryptamines i dont smoke untill im coming down or if the trip is weak.

Otherwise i tend to get some pretty bad anxiety when smoking weed while tripping.
 
I remember reading in one of Leary's psilocin behavior-modification studies with inmates or convicts that ~30mg could produce a life-death rebirth experiences pretty reliably. Granted Leary's studies are biased to say the least, but I'd imagine his dosage info to be accurate. Not sure exactly how more or less potent 4-aco-dmt is compared with its hydroxy counterpart, but I'd think 30mg would be roundabouts the right level to induce this type of experience... set & setting permitting of course
 
Yeah, I don't smoke until I'm surely on the comedown. Weed can bring on a shot of anxiety that sends a trip awry. Even sober weed can precipitate an anxiety session/attack in me.

For some reason though when on methylone/piracetam a little bowl is exactly what's needed to smooth the edges and get the magic flowing.
 
It sounds to me like you werent fully plateued and still had a bit to go and then you got high which made you jump up 2 levels instead of going up 1. I love smoking weed from the moment the trip is in full effect until I fall asleep after the trip. However weed never really makes me anxious.
 
yea, So this is common with tryptamines? Phens and Cannabis go good though right?
 
.Felix. said:
yea, So this is common with tryptamines? Phens and Cannabis go good though right?
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I would have thought it was more dosage/individual related, than tryptamine vs phenethylamine. In my experience, 2C-C and LSD have both been turned into difficult places by a sudden increase in psychedelia, anxiety and panic when I've taken cannabis during come-up. Some people find cannabis fine at any stage of a trip, but I tend to find it troubling at any time before plateau, on a range of psychedelics, including phens; but only with relatively moderate to high doses of psychedelic; if it's a mild trip anyway, cannabis just enhances at any stage, for me.
 
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