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Would you spend 25.39 Pound Sterling on cigarettes a day

Haha. I forget who said it but go for the packs that talk about pregnancy or low birth weight, then you are all good!
 
PUGinaRUG said:
Haha. I forget who said it but go for the packs that talk about pregnancy or low birth weight, then you are all good!
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I saw the ones that said smoking decreases fertility and went to my mate, I thought they were trying to give us reasons to stop smoking?
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
Bill Hicks my hero of life.
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Same here. I remember being first introduced to him by a mate, when we first tried magic mushrooms. When they were fresh and legal to buy in the UK. Was such an amazing time for the most part. We spent the majority of time in his garden listening to tunes. Jurassic park freaked me out on TV later on in the day and I was still tripping when my Dad gave me a lift home. Felt like I was falling through the car seat, trying to act normal of course! The first of many mushroom experiences.

I miss how easy it was to get fresh shrooms...
 
Seeing as we can name prices, what does a clay head of fruit flavoured shisha tobacco cost at a hookar bar in the UK?

The cheapest in Melbourne is $25 AUD for a clayhead and $30 AUD for a fresh apple head which is fark'en expensive considering you can smoke one whole shisha in as little time as 40 mintues
 
Wilson Wilson said:
Thankfully I don't smoke. Nicotine is a nasty drug and tobacco a nasty substance as far as I'm concerned. I don't like spliffs either far prefer pure joints. I'll put up with spliffs if it's someone else's weed and they're passing it around. But if I'm rolling my own it's always pure. Nicotine does seem to make the weed hit harder, but also makes the high dirtier in my opinion.
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True, I've never met anyone that smoked pure, me and some of my mates (used to) swear by pure joints for years.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
True, I've never met anyone that smoked pure, me and some of my mates (used to) swear by pure joints for years.
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I only ever smoked weed straight... Well almost always. If a mate had a backy/weed joint, which they always did... and I didn't have any weed myself, I wouldn't say no. But I found pure weed joints to be wasteful so I bought a pipe and then just used that. That was a while ago though. Now I just vape my buds. Seems to be even more cost effective :) Presumably the less harsh heating process doesnt destroy as much thc.

I never did like backy and weed together much. Definitely a different high, I'd agree dirtier is a good description.
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
True, I've never met anyone that smoked pure, me and some of my mates (used to) swear by pure joints for years.
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Yeah us pure smokers are like fucking weirdos in the UK. You mention smoking weed here and it's always just assumed to be a spliff even if you call it a joint. Everyone just only smokes spliffs. So when I tell people my joints are pure without tobacco they look at me like an alien ?

PUGinaRUG said:
Now I just vape my buds. Seems to be even more cost effective :) Presumably the less harsh heating process doesnt destroy as much thc.
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As I understand it vaping does get you a lot more THC than joints. Approx figures off the top of my head: you get 60-70% THC from a vape and 20-30% from a joint.

However the cannabinoids released are different when you use a vape vs. a joint, you probably notice it's a subtly different high and that'll be why. It's to do with temperature mostly. Smoking obviously burns it while a vape heats up a metal chamber that can't get it as hot as smoking.

I should look into decent affordable vapes again, had one that was alright, nothing special, but it broke and the company I got it from disappeared...

Looked into the highly rated ones but they're all like £200=400. Not paying that for a bloody vape!

One thing I do have is a Bud Bomb, cost £20 and you get a few strong hits out of it. Properly blasts you, that kinda high.
 
Wilson Wilson said:
Yeah us pure smokers are like fucking weirdos in the UK. You mention smoking weed here and it's always just assumed to be a spliff even if you call it a joint. Everyone just only smokes spliffs. So when I tell people my joints are pure without tobacco they look at me like an alien ?



As I understand it vaping does get you a lot more THC than joints. Approx figures off the top of my head: you get 60-70% THC from a vape and 20-30% from a joint.

However the cannabinoids released are different when you use a vape vs. a joint, you probably notice it's a subtly different high and that'll be why. It's to do with temperature mostly. Smoking obviously burns it while a vape heats up a metal chamber that can't get it as hot as smoking.
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Interesting.

I posted this in the gibberings topic, but in case you missed it, I own and reccomend this vape. It's only £80 and has lasted me ages. Great little piece of kit!

Nebula X - Portable Premium Vaporizer Loose Leaf Dry Herb and Concentrate Vape: Amazon.co.uk: Amazon.co.uk:

Nebula X - Portable Premium Vaporizer Loose Leaf Dry Herb and Concentrate Vape: Amazon.co.uk: Amazon.co.uk:
www.amazon.co.uk
 
PUGinaRUG said:
Interesting.

I posted this in the gibberings topic, but in case you missed it, I own and reccomend this vape. It's only £80 and has lasted me ages. Great little piece of kit!

Nebula X - Portable Premium Vaporizer Loose Leaf Dry Herb and Concentrate Vape: Amazon.co.uk: Amazon.co.uk:

Nebula X - Portable Premium Vaporizer Loose Leaf Dry Herb and Concentrate Vape: Amazon.co.uk: Amazon.co.uk:
www.amazon.co.uk
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Cheers for that one, didn't see it in the gibberings thread. Bookmarked it for later. Reviews look good. May very well pick one up.
 
Ive grudgingly switched to rolling tobacco even though I like cigs much better. 14 quid a week Vs a 5er a day...

Every now and then I treat myself to a pack. My mate sometimes gets polish marlb golds from the newsagent for 5.50. In fact all the best drugs and cigs come from the Poles, enterprising young fellows
 
Montecristo No.5 Cuban cigars are just ssssssoooooo damn good, they aren't cheap I admit & the cost of the last one I had could have got me over 50gram of baccy from the local shady shop but it tasted so good & the nictotine hit off it was quite something.

I'm counting down the days till I have the chance to smoke another.
 
Benches and Hedges rather than Bensons and Hedges rollies are..... urg.... I feel (more) ill if I smoke that for a day o_O
I am smoking far too much when I'm not boshing other substances, other than Booze or Caffeine! :cautious:
 
I've been counting the days down till this happened, I used to be a militant vaper & brought into all the talk about it being good for you etc & then one day like usual I began to think "Who the hell is pushing this stuff so hard? Where is the money going to?" & I started to think there was some other agenda behind it, seems I was right like usual while most laughed at me & carried on blowing clouds at 0.01ohm @ 37.5W

Seems vaping THC is also really bad for you, I don't fancy going out to make my maker this way.

"Many of the cases involve vaping THC, the main active compound in cannabis, CDC experts said.
The cases were reported over the course of two months between 28 June and 20 August.

The person who died was "hospitalized with unexplained illness after reported vaping or e-cigarette use", Dr Jennifer Layden, the chief medical officer and state epidemiologist in Illinois, said........Those affected had symptoms including coughing, shortness of breath and fatigue as well as some cases of vomiting and diarrhoea. There is no evidence of an infectious disease - such as a virus or bacteria - being responsible."

www.bbc.co.uk

First death linked to vaping reported in Illinois

The Illinois case comes as US health officials track 193 cases of a lung illness reported by vapers.
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Zopiclone bandit said:
I've been counting the days down till this happened, I used to be a militant vaper & brought into all the talk about it being good for you etc & then one day like usual I began to think "Who the hell is pushing this stuff so hard? Where is the money going to?" & I started to think there was some other agenda behind it, seems I was right like usual while most laughed at me & carried on blowing clouds at 0.01ohm @ 37.5W

Seems vaping THC is also really bad for you, I don't fancy going out to make my maker this way.

"Many of the cases involve vaping THC, the main active compound in cannabis, CDC experts said.
The cases were reported over the course of two months between 28 June and 20 August.

The person who died was "hospitalized with unexplained illness after reported vaping or e-cigarette use", Dr Jennifer Layden, the chief medical officer and state epidemiologist in Illinois, said........Those affected had symptoms including coughing, shortness of breath and fatigue as well as some cases of vomiting and diarrhoea. There is no evidence of an infectious disease - such as a virus or bacteria - being responsible."

www.bbc.co.uk

First death linked to vaping reported in Illinois

The Illinois case comes as US health officials track 193 cases of a lung illness reported by vapers.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Sounds like it's down to whatever the inactive ingredients in the vape juice are. We know the base is usually PG or VG but flavourings often use other ingredients that are not well researched, early e-liquid had diacetyl in it for flavouring as an example, although the dangers were recognised quickly and they stopped using it in that case, except perhaps for those dodgy Chinese liquids being sold cheap on Alibaba or whatever.

Which really is my question here, these deaths and illnesses from vaping, are they coming from people using regulated liquids or cheap Chinese crap? The difference is huge in terms of what they mix in there. We all know clandestine Chinese labs don't mind using potentially dangerous ingredients to keep costs down.

I'll wait and see until more research is done but I'm willing to bet that is where most of the danger comes from, not the e-cigs themselves nor the liquids made by reputable companies.

Since the article says most of the illnesses are linked to THC vape juice, that only backs my theory more since obviously THC juice is more likely to come from illegal sources with it remaining illegal in most places, whereas nicotine juice is mostly coming from legal and regulated sources.

I've avoided THC e-cig juice for this very reason, as tempting as the stuff is to me. I just can't trust it.

Recently I have been using those Juul things because they potentate opiates and I'm not reading this stuff happening with those, although I have read Juul has done some shady shit in the US (paying off schools to set up stalls trying to sell their goods to teenagers), the actual product itself is not something I'm worried about aside from it having a high dose of nicotine in it. I mean 18mg/ml is a lot of fucking nicotine.

But yeah of course vaping is not "100% safe" and anyone who claims literally anything is "100% safe" is either a liar or ignorant let's be real. Especially when you're putting shit in your body. But as an aid to help people quit smoking, I know a few people who did successfully quit because of vapes, and it is definitely safer than all the shite in tobacco. If one must use one or the other, vapes are the lesser of two evils, just don't cut corners with what you put in your body by getting unbranded crap from China.

P.S. Also curious there seems to be none (or comparatively little) of this happening with CBD vape liquid - again, seems to point to clandestine labs making illicit THC liquid more than anything else.
 
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