Stimulants Would smoking meth for the first time fucking up my looks?

[rickolasnice]

You sound like you're trying reaalllyy hard to justify using meth, man... which you don't have to do. I don't care, either way.

If you can honestly tell yourself you think you're going to be able to not become addicted, more power to you..

Good luck with that.

I've done meth once in my life and you are talking to me as if i'm an addict in denial 8) (Or I'm heading there)

I tried heroin about 4 years ago.. Am i a soon to be h junky or what? Or is 4 years long enough to assume that one use didn't lead to a life time of addiction?

 

[neversickanymore]

This is some pretty interesting stuff that will explain quite a bit of tweaking behavior.. like stripping things down and focussing on almost completely useless shit for hours and hours and sometimes days.. picking at ones skin, spending hours and hours wandering around wal-mart looking at absolutely everything etc it also explains how normal amps may treat ADHD etc.. this woman was given L dopa for her parkinson's and this is a bit about what happened and why and has good and true explanation..

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link>Dopamine Is _________ Is it love? Gambling? Reward? Addiction?<

 

[LOGan1314]

Dude, he's just saying it's extremely addictive compared to most other drugs. I have used it recreationaly as well, but it has an extremely high addiction rate

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

The fact you even asked the question makes me feel obligated to tell you that you should NEVER try meth.
Not only because it is extremely addictive blah blah blah but you sound very uneducated about drugs, and likely don't have much history with addictive substances, or not a long history at least
And you placing so much emphasis on the fact that you only plan to do it once makes me feel like you have a sort of arrogance about your ability to handle the push of addiction, which is a terrible mindset to have.
I have used meth successfully and used heroin successfully without a moment of feeling like I needed it, but I never go in with the attitude of "it can't happen to me"
When you start thinking like that and you begin using every week you still maintain the mindset of I'm not addicted, I can quit anytime because it can't happen to me.
Don't do it, even though it may sound hypocritical for me to talk about how I've used and haven't become a junkie but then tell you not too, it really isn't.
I regret trying it because try weighing the positives and the negatives.
On the plus side, you may be able to occasionally use a stimulant, whoop dee fucking doo.
Now the negatives, well, many users here could write a list ten pages long.

Long story short, the risk just isn't worth it, and will never be worth it for anyone. Ever.

 

[littlepenguin]

neversickanymore - thank you for posting that video. incredible and fascinating.

 

[cyberius]

I wouldn't recommend it personally. It is the most intense fucking rush you will ever experience. I personally can't handle methamphetamine, it's just too much for me.

This isn't preaching, this is a word of caution from a 2 time meth user. The past will cease to exist and the walls will feel like they are closing in on you, be warned.

 

[neversickanymore]

neversickanymore - thank you for posting that video. incredible and fascinating.

Thanks littlepen.. yeah thats what I came away thinking too.

 

[tweex]

For everyone claiming meth can't be used responsibly, I would counter with my own personal experience.

I do it on occasional, orally, and only in doses up to 30mg/day. I use it as a productivity drug, not to get high. I don't redose. I take neuroprotective agents and down protein shakes and long acting sugars while on it. I'll use it on average perhaps once a month when I've got an extremely tight schedule, and Monster Energy, Nicotine, Vyvanse, 2-FMA and nootropics simply aren't cutting it.

I've never felt compelled to use it recreationally, inject, snort, smoke, redose or anything else "fiendish". Granted, a lot of people might not be able to do this. Stay safe!

 

[Ksa]

Is it love? Gambling? Reward? Addiction?[/URL]<

You find that answer if you try to get a robot to do something on its own without any input command. It's a programming challenge inevitability. It's like having 100,000 children stuck in their homes, sad, and when they all come out of their homes to play and you lock the doors behind them, it's like all their joy and happyness goes to you. Ultimately, what people are seeking is not food, gambling or sex, it's the chemical reaction that goes on when they do those activities. It's the ultimate sensation of bliss that is superior to anything you or I could get in this life. It's perfection defined.

People don't understand the reaction causing pleasure because they don't understand the one causing pain and cannot tell the difference between them, much less simulate them in a robot environment. In my opinion, we may be the less advanced intelligent life form in our universe. There's so much to do...it's discouraging. We should have this pleasure reaction in our pockets, at the press of a button, shouldn't rely on drugs, women or gambling to get it.

As long as we rely on those things, we will be prisoners of our own body.

 

[Droppersneck]

Doesnt meth destroy the neurons that creat dopamine in your brain after prolonged use?

 

[flat-line]

Doesnt meth destroy the neurons that creat dopamine in your brain after prolonged use?

yeah, it does. I know a few people that did meth for years then stopped and dealt with massive depression they said was linked to depleted and destroyed receptors/neurons(whatever you call them).

Most meth users also don't get good rushes after a while because they have depleted of destroyed all the parts of the brain that gives them. Ends up just being maintenance just to make it through another shitty day full of side effects.

 

[tweex]

Depends on the dose: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21635908

 

[neversickanymore]

You find that answer if you try to get a robot to do something on its own without any input command. It's a programming challenge inevitability. It's like having 100,000 children stuck in their homes, sad, and when they all come out of their homes to play and you lock the doors behind them, it's like all their joy and happyness goes to you. Ultimately, what people are seeking is not food, gambling or sex, it's the chemical reaction that goes on when they do those activities. It's the ultimate sensation of bliss that is superior to anything you or I could get in this life. It's perfection defined.

People don't understand the reaction causing pleasure because they don't understand the one causing pain and cannot tell the difference between them, much less simulate them in a robot environment. In my opinion, we may be the less advanced intelligent life form in our universe. There's so much to do...it's discouraging. We should have this pleasure reaction in our pockets, at the press of a button, shouldn't rely on drugs, women or gambling to get it.

As long as we rely on those things, we will be prisoners of our own body.

dopamine and the VTA are more than kinda like a

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and the more I realize this the more i think you are right about inteligence.. its almost like we are predetermined to do something, that is life as a whole.. predetermined means programed.. programed means some one wants us to do this.. and when i think about it the only thing I see life doing for sure is turning inorganic matter into organic matter.. so who knows if we aren't just here making an organic atmosphere for the real intelligence? On the other hand I believe the dopamine reward pathways responses can be manipulated by changing core thinking and although this takes time it is by no means impossible.

 

[shmike87]

all ive ever heard about meth is that if u try it once your hooked. which is bs. but very possible. it will not cause any noticeable physical signs. I tried one point the first time and didn't use it for 3 months no prob.

 

[Not Again]

Meth fucks you up period!!

One time turns into 10 and then your a meth head surrounded by meth heads. Dude from the outside ( where you are now) It looks cool, once on the inside it gets much darker and smells bad. Your friend would cut your neck for a buck or a hit.

Meth is the worst world to live in. I was there for 10 years. The only plus is you can quit and not have weeks of withdraws. Do something else. Get the RX provigil or nuvigil. Take that. I have and it gets you movin without the meth effects.

 

[TwêâkêЯ]

ignore errors. won't go into too much detail with this post (hopefully). im not in the mood (amp crash). i only do Vyvanse now because thats all i got prescribed. used to abuse adderall A LOT (for school), but here's where it gets stupid: when i was tweaking on that shit so hard. i could never get any school done ever. i was too busy cleaning and fixing stupid shit on my computer that i never used. Same thing all this week too. Somehow Ive been getting tweaked off vyvanse and it starts nice, energizing mood boost, then its straight to obsessive planning, taking notes arranging things, all with NO purpose at all really.

TL;DR: Meth will up your mood, confidence, motivation etc. When you crash, you will feel like complete and total shit. Worst depression (maybe not even sadness, but just empty feeling, I typically feel anhedonia), worst irritability (ANYTHING will make you want to kill someone), and the crash sometimes results in people redosing. (except for a couple of times) ive never redosed after a crash, its just stupid, youll only get a little bit of a boost before its worse crash than before, if youre not worried about that, be worried that youre probably destroying your body by doing so.


next day after doing amps, youll either want it again, or hopefully like i usually feel stay away from them for a while just because of how bad the crash can be.

*Moral of the story: Just take care of yourself, and if you're going to do amphetamines, expect horrible crashes if you do high doses, and keep yourself nourished. Many threads on supplementation.

 

[sub21lime]

Meth isn't going to fix your anxiety or make you content with yourself. In fact, it'll probably make your anxiety worse.

. I 2nd that

 

[bennyZA]

I've done meth once in my life and you are talking to me as if i'm an addict in denial 8) (Or I'm heading there)

I tried heroin about 4 years ago.. Am i a soon to be h junky or what? Or is 4 years long enough to assume that one use didn't lead to a life time of addiction?

Okay, yea, cool, we are all different... but the overwhelming majority of meth users said they'd only do it once, or something along those lines, before the addiction. I don't know too many tweakers or junkies that told themselves they were going to get addicted and let it take over their life before they tried it. This is an HR website. It's better to exaggerate the dangers than to speak about meth as if it's not a big deal. The first time I did oxy it took a long time till I started doing it regularly, years. Whether or not I got addicted the first time or years later, I still opened that door.

I think a big part of this is that the OP is obviously trying to self medicate. Self medicating with a drug as addictive as meth isn't going to end well.

Can you at least agree that it's probably not a good idea to try it simply because the OP heard it might be good for psychological issues?

 

[N5HO1C]

Smoking meth may not hurt your looks by smoking it the first time,
though that first time may make Meth a VERY BAD HABIT really fast!

Meth doesn't really smoke! Seriously, when heated Meth turns into a liquid then that liquid, vapor it let off as fumes!

Very bad idea, Very Bad!

 

[Beefy]

I used to be really addicted to meth like 5 years ago or so. Doing it every weekend just got to be too much. I was smoking it and got tired of the paranoia and some of the people who do it too much. I then started doing dope. Quit meth for good, but since doing dope and moving to iv, I iv all my stuff now. The iv'able stuff anyways.
So I met this friend recently who gets some amazing meth. So of course I start iv'ing it. I like it MUCH BETTER than smoking it...
But yeah, if you don't have tolerance to stuff or its new. Just stick to snorting. Don't even smoke it.