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Opioids Would opium dialate my eyes?

ahkwa

ahkwa

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Ive been vaping it, it has that distinct smell and taste ive been chasing the dragon my girlfriend and friends say it worked, i feel like it worked, i feel faded as shit but i smoked alot and have a tolerance to about 70mg morphine iv and 40mg oc insuffilated. Why would my eyes be dialated? I read if there dialated it means it doesnt work. Im just very confused the bag its in is all resined up and when you pull it apart it stretches a little bit and it has an amazing distinct taste please assist me lol as im wondering if its all placebo, ive had horrible pain lately from a toothache and i burned my finger with the lighter quite a few times and cant feel a damn thing. And also this is all ive done tonight no pot or anything. Sorry about the shitty grammer. Oh and i doubt this matters but i just got my septum pierced and dont feel the pain from that a bit whatsoever.
 
Does this even make any sense? All other opiates pin my eyes, but im experiencing almost every effect of opium and the description of it is dead on.
 
No, opium does not dilate your pupils. I do notice what while going through WD my pupils will dilate some - could you just be experiencing mild WDs?
 
Are you taking anything else with it... like diphenhydramine or another antihistamine, cause they do cause your pupils to dilate and if your taking enough of them it could cause it to happen despite the opiates.
 
Just the opiates, and im definitely (at least i think) a smart opiate user and ive never had dilated eyes from opiates. So could it be that 1. Its bunk and all placebo and really giving me all the effects, or 2 ive read theres numerous non alkaloid compounds besides morphine and codeine in opium so could one of those just be over powered and dilate me eyes? I mean it looks like it shoud resins up the bag, like its really sticky but than its not too. And when i vape it it bubbles all nice and you get a slight rush.
 
And somehow ive tamed my self from doing anything to h to oc(mad amounts) and alot of other opiates iv but never actualy "needed" them and its like in my head i have this buzzer that goes off if i get close to an uncontrollable addiction. If not id be fucked lol.
 
Not taking anything, dont drink shit but water. And i know eyes dilate when stressed/anxious and other shit but i feel so relaxed and i can tell there dilated. So is it placebo or just some strange thing? i mean not eevvveerrryyybody reacts the same way to drugs, but my girlfriends eyes got small. It just doesnt make sense, cause even if it was fake(which im99% positive its not) why would it dilate my eyes unless it was another psychoactive chemical, but seeing as the pictures of black tar opium and discriptions of what i read about smell and taste and feeling for that matter that would be way to ironic unless it was laced with something but it does not taste like a chemical at all, atleast any chemical ive ever smoked. Oh and i also read that if it leaves brown/black residue on the baggy its in that means its potent, is that true? Sorry for all the questions i would just like to make sure what im inhaling is opium. I can take a pic s well, would that help?

EDIT** my girlfriends eyes got BIG**
 
..If you have IV'ed morphine you should be able to tell what opium feels like. Though 70mg morphine IV and 40mg oc are not even close in potency. Sorry, if you can't even be sure you felt anything, then I doubt it is opium, probably some other bullshit that is dilating your pupuls, because YOU WILL FEEL Opium. Another thing, idk where you got this opium, but opium is very rare in most parts. I would make sure your source is reputable.

"I can take a pic s well, would that help?"

LMAO, PLEASE DO NOT post a picture of an illegal substance on a worldwide forum. Perhaps you can PM it, to someone experienced? ;)
 
lorne667 said:
..If you have IV'ed morphine you should be able to tell what opium feels like. Though 70mg morphine IV and 40mg oc are not even close in potency. Sorry, if you can't even be sure you felt anything, then I doubt it is opium, probably some other bullshit that is dilating your pupuls, because YOU WILL FEEL Opium. Another thing, idk where you got this opium, but opium is very rare in most parts. I would make sure your source is reputable.

"I can take a pic s well, would that help?"

LMAO, PLEASE DO NOT post a picture of an illegal substance on a worldwide forum. Perhaps you can PM it, to someone experienced? ;)
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Well i am sure i felt it, hence the reason i posted this cause i was confused. and uhhh the oc is 40mg insuffilated and that was roughly around the last time ive done it so it may be different now but now i am doing around 70mg morph. And im sure its real if you didnt see that i said that. You dont have to be a dick, i was just seeing if there was some other instance this has happened or any tests i can do. And im not retarted but i doubt anyone would give a fuck if i put a picture of opium up. And it feels like morphine with something missing now that i think of it it may be due to my recent large doses of iv experiences. ;)
 
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The last line was a joke, hence the ;) oh, and the "experienced" meant experience with actual opium, which I don't really have.

I wasn't trying too be a dick; it's just I see a message like that, and assume A. you are high on the OPIUM and are just trippin' or
B. you have no idea what you are talking about and are, well, trippin. I could never mistake the feelings of opiates and so find it hard to believe others can too. So again, I am not trying to be a dick, just saying that we can't really help you, unless maybe you posted that pic, though you can't get opium at your local Wal-Greens :)

Btw, IV morphine is over twice as potent per mg as oral oxycodone. oral oxycodone is 25-50% more potent than nasal oxycodone; so it would take 140-190mg of oxycodone up your nose to equal 70mg morphine in your veins. Which is why I NEVER smoke dope...
 
I know you weren't being that big of a dick, i can see it from your perspective. And yeah i know opiates very well it has seemed to work on 5 people that tried it. Like i smoked them up. One or two of the five knowing opiates said they were "faded" (me and my friends term for an opiate high) my girlfriend was nodding and no pain, i wasnt nodding but i couldnt feel shit. I dont know, it was from a very reliable source, not just some fuck. Its like for example if your buying mass amounts of let me see..dvd players from someone its clearly a dvd player and you sell them to people and than he sells you a tv for yourself he wouldnt just fuck ya. Seeing as the amount you've spent and invested in his dvd players was roughly 10 times more than on the tv. Especially when he will randomly throw in an extra dvd player. lol i know retarded analogy. But my main question is, is there ANY chance there could be ANY substance in the opium plant matter (not something cut) that would dilate pupils? Or if it was prepared/cooked wrong by like over boiling or something would it than dilate?
 
lorne667 said:
Btw, IV morphine is over twice as potent per mg as oral oxycodone. oral oxycodone is 25-50% more potent than nasal oxycodone; so it would take 140-190mg of oxycodone up your nose to equal 70mg morphine in your veins. Which is why I NEVER smoke dope...
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I try to tell people this all the time.
 
ahkwa said:
Ive got a buddy that introduced me to these http://www.drugs.com/imprints/54-733-9916.html and hes been doing them for years, does this sound like a proper method, im just searching for the best way to do the 15s (i know 15s suck cause i have to do MULTIPLE shots)
1. boil water in microwave
2. crush pill put in spoon
3. add water head till boil than stop
4. mix than boil just a LITTLE bit more
5. use a cotton to mix it up
6. run REALLY hot water in the sink, put the cap and shit on the needle and hold it under for a munite
7. bang

i dont ever really see gel in the syringe its just hard to filter
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I stumbled upon this browsing the forums. The reason you need 70mg of IV morphine(which as I mentioned earlier, is 140-190mg nasal oxy, which is 4-5x the dose you said you took) is because you aren't actually getting 15mg out of each pill for these "multiple shots" you are doing. As the next poster said, just cold mix them, afterwards draw the solution through a filter, then add the solution through a 2nd pill(if you are having to use 1ml syringes as most of us do) cold mix that, filter, bang, I guarantee that shot will feel twice as good as the multiple shots you've been doing.(again, not being a dick, just trying to help ya out ;) )
 
Well i agreed before you werent and arent a dick(: and daah that makes sense. So you dont need heat? This sounds dumb as fuck but isnt morphine not 100% water soluble? Thats why the bioavailability of insuffilation is like 15 right? Or
 
Given my hefty experience with opium latex smoking/tea drinking, I must admit I've never once gotten constricted pupils from smoking O. Neither has anyone else I've smoked it with gotten these effects. We all agree what we are experiencing is distinctively opiate before, and I've intentionally combined oral codeine and oral morphine before for the purpose of comparing the effects to those of opium; whilst opium always felt a little different given the rapid onset of effects and the plethora of other alkalkoids present that likely exert their own unique effects, the combination was otherwise a virtual recreation. Smoking tar heroin, though, does constrict my pupils. People tend to confuse the two, especially if what they're told is opium is actually black tar. I'm not saying that's what happened with you, in fact your description sounds in every way like all opium I've ever used, but pictures would be nice.

Also I would only ever use bacteriostatic water for shooting opium as it is the unprocessed latex from the raw plant, most likely from Afghanistan and very likely to contain *something* you probably don't want to be shooting into your vein. Think about it :\

Anyway, I'll check back to see if you've posted any pictures, maybe try one when you've got a piece stretched out. I'd be looking out for a gooey consistency that lightly tears apart with a sort of stringy, feathery appearance when it's teased apart.

I'm sure it's real, though, man. Especially if your toothache pain and burnt finger pain are satiated after smoking!

~ vaya
 
Either you have a heavy tolerance. Opium is notorious for accelerated tolerance, but you would also notice lack of effect (if that is all your choosing to enjoy with it: week, alcohol, xanax) OR your not effectivley absorbing it into your blood stream, therefore you're not achieving appropriate brain levels.

just my two cents worth
 
ahkwa said:
Well i agreed before you werent and arent a dick(: and daah that makes sense. So you dont need heat? This sounds dumb as fuck but isnt morphine not 100% water soluble? Thats why the bioavailability of insuffilation is like 15 right? Or
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Hmm... I am exactly sure what you mean by "not 100% water soluble", but I think you are referring to it's solubility, saying that it is only slightly soluble in water, which is why nasal administration has such a low BA. Well that is actually a good assumption; indeed, most drugs that aren't effective when snorted aren't water soluble, a perfect example being benzos. But morphine is soluble in water, granted, not extremely soluble, with a limit of like 60mg/ml or something along those lines, but soluble enough for injection. I honestly have no clue why the nasal BA is so low, it's like all the fucking morphones we're designed so that you have to bang them!

As far as heating pills, no, it's a bad idea, as it is unnecessary, and unhealthy. To be honest though, I don't have much experience with MS contins, but if your morphine pills are instant release, then no, no heat necessary.
 
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