Worse comedown EVER! (I think)

[slackhands]

So swim did MDMA for the first time in atleast 5 months 2 days ago. didn't test it but was told by a close friend it was from a very reliable source. It was pure white small crystals. There were apparently big crystals which were sold to other SWIM' beforehand.

SWIM first swallowed a few of the small crystals, and then must have had about 4 dabs over the next few hours. This was outside for the first time ever (though in a familiar(ish) environment),SWIM noticed a significant appreciation for light which has never been felt before. It also felt very smooth to previous experiences, and felt like it came on in waves as it's meant to. However, after trecking through a forest for about 8 miles, swim suddenly came to a dramatic halt. Again, this has never been felt to this degree before. This left swim feeling suicidal for around half an hour, not wanting to do anything.

7 hours after the rolll and SWIM awoke, he felt absolutely fine however. Even better than expected, seeing as he only had about 6 hours sleep. The main concern SWIM has niggling away at the back of his mind is something that SWIM's supplier had said. He said this: ''You're not going to like this comedown'' or something along those lines. Swim diidn't take this too seriously as SWIM who said this has a very laid back joking attitude, and he himself had already ingested some by this time anyway (or so SWIM thinks)

Anyway SWIM had a great night, but am certainly not in any rush to try it again, as SWIM honestly felt as low as possible. This wasn't just sad, it was definitely suicidal.

So generally, does purer MDMA= Worse comedown?

 

[dezz]

Not really... It's normal to feel low when the effects wear off... but suicidal? Damn man, did you take alot? Did you redose after the first hour? Maybe it has more to do with your mindset then the comedown itself...
Also, are you sure it's "pure mdma" I recommend getting a testkit in the future otherwise...

 

[slackhands]

I estimate I did around 200-250 mg. I stupidly did re-dose after the first hour though only around 50mg I think.I'm not 100% sure but I only really remember getting one decent dab near the beginning, 2 ok ones, and the last one was rubbish because my mouth was so dry. It could very well be my mindset (I have been stressed over something) but yeh I feel absolutely fine now 36 hours later. It was a very low sinking feeling, maybe suicidal as well. Just something that I don't really want to experience again basically. I was very unsure as to how I felt. I am very unlikely to do MDMA in the foreseeable future because of this, and shall definitely invest in a test kit before then.Thanks.

 

[Cz_x]

In all honestly I think the people who get horrific comedowns are the ones that do stupidly high doses, dance for 10 hours, drink only alcohol and dehydrate themselves. Either that or some people are just unlucky. Watch out for suicide Tuesday though

 

[dezz]

Yeah definatly, OP try to keep it to 150 mg's next time, and don't redose, drink water and all that, and have some weed for the comedown. I'm sure the feeling won't be as bad at all! I certainly know the feeling you describe though, but it only happens to me if I redose, or simply take too much. It's stupid anyways as higher doses don't give more euphoria but only makes the experience more messy. And you get the comedown you described... Hope this bad experience didn't put you off of mdma for good, just take it easy next time ^^

 

[Folley]

In all honestly I think the people who get horrific comedowns are the ones that do stupidly high doses, dance for 10 hours, drink only alcohol and dehydrate themselves. Either that or some people are just unlucky. Watch out for suicide Tuesday though

Very, VERY untrue.


The SWIM who get comedowns are the SWIM who take too much MDMA too often, SWIM says that SWIM recommends 3 months in between, but that SWIMs on this site generally SWIM once a month maximum.

See how annoying that is to read OP? No SWIMing in this pool.


What I say to you is that if you don't have a comedown, you should just be happy.

 

[Bojangles2.0]

I had the SAME EXACT thing happen to me today.

Look I rarely if ever fuck around with MDMA. Last time I took anything like it was E about 10 years ago just one time at my highschool prom.

Wound up meeting someone over the weekend who had a half a g of pure MDMA. I had never taken pure MDMA before.
So this time I wanted to be "smart" about it because naturally I'm older.

Read online if you give your brain 1 month to recover, you'll be ok. This is obviously total bs.

This is exactly how the time line went.

About 6 months ago I plugged a very low dose, about 50mg just to test the potency. I almost made it to a full roll, but obviously hadn't taken enough.

I told myself I'm waiting a month or 2 before I try again.

2 months pass by, this time I plug about 70mg, feeling is about the same, feel like I'm about to peak, still didn't take enough. Don't take anymore because
I know how quick that can get ugly.

Wait a few more months this time. This is the 3rd time I've taken it. I was sure I'd roll this time and plugged around 100mg.

Guess what happens? Nothing. I can feel a bit of light enhancement, horny, feel good, but this time I had taken more, and barely felt anything.
I'm thinking "wtf is going on I waited like 2.5 months this time?"

I begin to notice the slight effects wear away, and I'm thinking "can my seretonin already be floored from 2 uses over the last 6 months?"
There is nothing else I can imagine that caused it.

So now I'm a bit worried because its about 6 hours after I dosed, and I start to feel claustrophobic. I have my diabetic dog near me, she vomits on the
floor, I get so depressed for some reason I begin to CRY. This was early this morning. I start thinking my dog is dying, I get in this HORRIBLE BLACK HOLE
of the ugliest nastiest thoughts you can imagine.

I'm sitting there hugging my dog and crying when just yesterday I felt pretty normal.
It gets to the point where everytime I look at my dog, I can't stop myself from balling like a baby.

I honestly thought at the time that I was just depressed my dog is getting old (which I am but the way I reacted was just absurd).
I lay down around 6am trying to sleep and can't.

Over and over I keep looking at my dog and crying, I'm losing my mind at this point and just can't understand how everything went
south so quickly.

I have NEVER felt like this before but I've also never taken MDMA 3 times in 6 months.

Long story short, I go to my parents home for fathers day and had taken my dog back because she lives with my mom. I love my dog
A LOT, but this can NOT be normal. Once I got home from my parents house, I come through the front door and its dark inside my
house. AGAIN, I get this claustrophobic feeling so I turn the lights on thinking it would get better. I wind up my dogs water dish on the
floor, it triggers me to start crying hysterically again.

I'm CRYING just by LOOKING at my dogs water bowl FFS!

THIS IS IT FOR ME, I do NOT want to know with MDMA EVER AGAIN. I've been in some ugly places in my life before, even spent some time
in prison, but this is a depression that is simply NOT natural or normal by any means.

The entire day today (fathers day) I have been crying like a fucking baby. I haven't thought about killing myself yet, but I just can't tell you how
fucking depressed I am right now. I'm trying as best as I can to seperate myself from my emotions and at this point its later in the night and I just
feel numb. I came onto the forums to see if anyone else was having issues like this.

I do NOT know if I'm sensitive, or naturally low in seretonin, but I really thought if I spaced out my doses enough I'd be fine.
I was majorly fucking wrong and now I'm suffering pretty badly because of it.

Tommorow I'm going out to by 5HTP, I'm going back to eating healthy (veggies/protien) because I haven't had an appetite all day.
I'm simply NOT touching this shit ever again. I'm trading what I have left for some herb and maybe that will numb me down a bit more.

All I know is I feel sensitive like a girl and all day have been losing control of my emotions.

My recommendation if you're experiencing any type of depression, STAY THE FUCK AWAY from E/MDMA don't ever take the shit again.
I'm sure I'll feel off all week now and hopefully I'll get better if I fight through it and take care of myself.

I've taken speed before and gotten depressed/paranoid, but this is just a very black depression I'm in right now. No paranoia or anxiety
I feel hollow and lost, sad like one of my family members just died.

Please take care of yourself and good luck, I know what you're going through and its definitely NOT cool.

-Bo

 

[slackhands]

^^^ Definitely staying the fuck away from MDMA for a fucking long time pal. It's just too fucking powerful to use regularly, only to be used on real special occasions. I can't believe this guy I know who said he rolled atleast 200mg each day for a week. He started on 200mg and went upto 700mg by end of week. . .

 

[dezz]

Yeah that's the fucking weird thing with mdma. I abused it weekly aswell when I first discovered it, without much problems at all. Other people... not so much. Maybe some are VERY lucky, or are less sensitive to the bad side-effects. I don't know, but for some reason, some people get fucked over way more then others...

 

[Folley]

I was able to use weekly or more for almost a year, I never had comedowns unless I took large amounts of meth, and even that didn't happen until after 7+ months of abuse....

You should go back and read some of my first posts on this site, I sound nothing like I do now. I would tell people MDMA is completely safe, and that you can do it as much as you want. I argued with people who said there were dangers... and made up everything I needed to justify my use to myself.

Obviously, if I would talk to someone like that now I would rip them a new ass hole.


Some people may be more susceptible to damage, but it will happen to everyone that abuses it for long periods of time....I saw it happen with you man... luckily you get pure MDMA, so you're not dealing with all the same problems I had.

 

[dezz]

True, but for sure I never had to deal with what you experienced. I'm 2 months in after my big dose and I'm pretty much normal, whatever changes there are are VERY subtle. That's the thing, I think it creeped up on me and I'm just not really noticing it. No disrespect to the OP and Bojangles, but it seems some people get WAY more severe after effects then others... I have friends that did it for 10 years and don't even know what serotonin IS, yet apart from the bad mood after use, they seem fine... one of them is the happiest person I know... Anyway I'll stop derailing this thread, I wish you good luck on your recovery guys, things will only get better

 

[Folley]

The first month was hell, but 2 month after I felt relatively "ok" too... but I still could tell I needed to give myself the full time necessary to recover

I think people just ignore the signs honestly... it becomes a part of their normal lives so they don't contribute it to the ecstasy.


But again, I was heavily abusing meth and MDMA at the same time... that's gonna do a lot more damage than either one alone, obviously.

 

[Folley]

It's different for everyone really...

Some people get depressed more than usual, some people get anxiety... some people draw into their own protective "shell", and others lose any kind of emotion at all... (depersonalization)

The visible signs of 5-HT downregulation are almost always emotional...

It starts out really small, you won't notice it at first... and then when you do, it's not the MDMA's fault, of course! You're just so sad because of how things are going for you... so you keep rolling, and it just builds and builds if you let it, until eventually you WILL break.



Some chains are stronger than others, but all will snap under enough stress.




I would say the biggest warning sign of trouble is the comedown. If your not abusing MDMA you shouldn't feel anything more that just a tad bit down the next day

 

[Dud_ette001]

You may have had to much , but I think people respond differently. I have felt scat, but after a good feed and sleep I was fine. I left a good few months in between trips.