Wondering about safe OC dose

[Dope_User]

I'm getting 10 20 mg OCs, although I think they are the generic ones. I wondering what a "safe" dose is for me. For the past few years, I've taken a few Percocet or Vicoden here and there and rarely touched the OCs. Last weekend, I had 3 of the Purdue OC 40s. I ate 1 as is and crushed up the other 2. I ate 20 mg whenever I didn't feel high enough (about every hour or two). So I had a total of 120 mg over about 6 or 7 hours then was high for 4 hours or so after that.

Since I'm getting generics, I'm wondering how well redosing works. My concern here is, I don't want to end up getting impatient, eating too many, then the time release kicking me in the ass and vomiting all over. I handled the 120 mg pretty well last weekend (did puke once, but then was fine). So think I'll be safe taking 4 pills right away and maybe 2 hours later taking one or two more if I think I need a bump up?

Sorry if this sounds like a "newb" question, but it is honestly entirely in the spirit of harm reduction. I'm just not sure how much I handle these days but I also do want to get high and not waste these pills. Thanks.

 

[beta1]

Your going to take 80mgs upfront when you have no past long term/heavy use and little to no current tolerance? I guess you have a really high natural tolerance if that doesn't make you sick.

If your question is asking what the starting dose for you should be, I would need you to explain what your starting dose the last time you used OC was to get an idea of the natural tolerance you have, but 80mgs is a massive dose for someone with very little tolerance, especially if you are breaking them up and/or taking them on an empty stomach.

And as far as the whole "Generic" thing goes, that will only make a significant difference if you are snorting them as long as you crush them up right.

Anyway, I'm somewhat unclear on what your asking exactly but as far as 80mgs being "safe" goes, I suppose it is (no real chance you'll die). But I would say it is too big for someone that seems to have no real opiate experience nor tolerance.

Hope that helped. Sorry if there are alot of typos, ect. I just blew an OC80, smoked some Calli headies, and then blew another 80 myself,

 

[sonic]

If they are teva brand "generic" OCs they will gel up if you attempt to snort them, otherwise the brand doesn't really matter. If you're attempting to get high, I see no point in swallowing the pills whole. Crush them up and attempt to break the time release. If you do happen to get teva OCs, you can dissolve the powder in an acid solution to break the time release for oral consumption.
As for how much you should take, you know your tolerance better than we do. Titrate. It's almost always better to take not enough than it is to take too much. Getting sick is no fun.

 

[Dope_User]

Oh, I failed to mention I had a monstrous IV heroin habit about 3 or 4 years ago...tolerance never went back to normal even after not touching any opiates for years.

My only concern with dumping the generics in some acidic solution is that I then have to drink that crap. Call me weak, but I gag and have to be careful parachuting stuff. Drinking a pill in orange juice...just not sure I could get it down (or keep it down).

 

[celebratefor20]

Oh, I failed to mention I had a monstrous IV heroin habit about 3 or 4 years ago...tolerance never went back to normal even after not touching any opiates for years.

My only concern with dumping the generics in some acidic solution is that I then have to drink that crap. Call me weak, but I gag and have to be careful parachuting stuff. Drinking a pill in orange juice...just not sure I could get it down (or keep it down).

i guess i could be weak too. i have the same parachuting problem. back when i IV'd heroin, even though im a tall guy, i have the absolute tiniest veins...even with a torq, they don't stick out at all, its guesswork, and i have to use the smallest freakin needles!

 

[artaxerxes]

If you microwave the Tevas (30 sec), then crush *really* well, you will get a powder that you can insufflate with little gelling.

The BA is lower with insufflation, but the advantage to insufflating the Tevas is that they hit a lot faster and it's easier to tell what your dosage should be. Those Tevas can really kick your ass if you just swallow them. You'll feel almost nothing within the first hour then they'll hit you hard in about 3 hours. It can be very unpleasant. And on top of it, you end up wasting your drugs by taking too much and not enjoying it.

I don't know if you have the Tevas. It just seems like some pharmacies have endless stocks of the accursed things, so that's all that's going around.

 

[Oxycontin160mg]

First time I did it I only needed about 15 - 20 mg of oxycodone to get pretty messed up for a few hours

 

[beta1]

If you microwave the Tevas (30 sec), then crush *really* well, you will get a powder that you can insufflate with little gelling.

The BA is lower with insufflation, but the advantage to insufflating the Tevas is that they hit a lot faster and it's easier to tell what your dosage should be. Those Tevas can really kick your ass if you just swallow them. You'll feel almost nothing within the first hour then they'll hit you hard in about 3 hours. It can be very unpleasant. And on top of it, you end up wasting your drugs by taking too much and not enjoying it.

I don't know if you have the Tevas. It just seems like some pharmacies have endless stocks of the accursed things, so that's all that's going around.

What the fuck are you talking about? I've done Teva 80's in the neighborhood of 300 times and have never felt nothing for an hour, and then all the sudden peaked hard 3 hours after taking them. I'm sorry but that makes no sense. And if that happens to you, it has nothing to do with the brand it is just how your body reacted to/reacts to the drug, especially if your talking about taking them orally without crushing them first.

And as far as what you said about snorting them, I did a lot of experimenting and what you said is far from the best solution for getting the most out of insufflating Teva's Oxys. Check out the thread below, I explain the best method for snoring Teva OC's at the end of it.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=300302&highlight=how+to+snort+teva

OP:

If they are teva brand "generic" OCs they will gel up if you attempt to snort them, otherwise the brand doesn't really matter. If you're attempting to get high, I see no point in swallowing the pills whole. Crush them up and attempt to break the time release. If you do happen to get teva OCs, you can dissolve the powder in an acid solution to break the time release for oral consumption.
As for how much you should take, you know your tolerance better than we do. Titrate. It's almost always better to take not enough than it is to take too much. Getting sick is no fun.

+1

Call me weak, but I gag and have to be careful parachuting stuff.

Also, could you elaborate on that? What causes you to gag from Parachuting a pill, do you have problems swallowing a standard pill?

 

[Dope_User]

Also, could you elaborate on that? What causes you to gag from Parachuting a pill, do you have problems swallowing a standard pill?

Sure...sugar coated Advil is easy. Smaller and normal size pills are easy. My giant One-A-Day vitamins are big and taste like shit so I gag a little. With parachuting, maybe I use a little too much tissue or toilet paper, or just because it's real dry paper, or maybe because I take a giant swig or water and don't swallow quick enough and end up tasting nasty, ground up pills. I drink alcohol a lot (rum and coke maybe 4 nights a week, decent amount) but if I take shots, same problem, gag and if it's something I don't like, I puke. Tried cold water extraction and puked from that a few times so now I just stick to pills w/o APAP.

If you're wondering why I'm still posting about this, it's because I haven't gotten anything yet...all my connects are unreliable except this one guy, but he just disappears for days and then eventually calls a week later and says, "Can I stop by in 10 minutes?" Still waiting on that call.

 

[clippper]

If you microwave the Tevas (30 sec), then crush *really* well, you will get a powder that you can insufflate with little gelling.

The BA is lower with insufflation, but the advantage to insufflating the Tevas is that they hit a lot faster and it's easier to tell what your dosage should be. Those Tevas can really kick your ass if you just swallow them. You'll feel almost nothing within the first hour then they'll hit you hard in about 3 hours. It can be very unpleasant. And on top of it, you end up wasting your drugs by taking too much and not enjoying it.

I don't know if you have the Tevas. It just seems like some pharmacies have endless stocks of the accursed things, so that's all that's going around.

The matrix in the Teva's only release a couple mg's every hour, usually it's the opposite of what you said, even when snorted. What if he listened to you and felt nothing in 3 hours so he popped all of them?? He'd either OD or be sick as hell for like 20 hrs.

 

[sonic]

Oh, I failed to mention I had a monstrous IV heroin habit about 3 or 4 years ago...tolerance never went back to normal even after not touching any opiates for years.

My only concern with dumping the generics in some acidic solution is that I then have to drink that crap. Call me weak, but I gag and have to be careful parachuting stuff. Drinking a pill in orange juice...just not sure I could get it down (or keep it down).

Maybe I've just conditioned myself to be able to consume gross shit that gets me high over the years, but it's hard for me to imagine anyone having a problem consuming a solution of oxycodone powder dissolved in lemon juice or ascorbic acid. It's not going to taste good, but there are far worse things I can imagine. A shot of high proof alcohol would be much harder to take down IMHO. I've found that when consuming undesirable things, chasing with a carbonated beverage can really help. The carbonation seems to really help get the taste off your tongue quickly.
What brand do you have? If they are endo brand or purdue's form of "generic," then you just have to crush the pills to effectively defeat the time release mechanism.

 

[trichr0me]

All I want to tell you is that you should most definitely do a little more research on this drug before you decide to ingest a decent amount of it, many many people goto sleep and never wake up on these type of drugs.

Don't mean to sound like a parrot repeating the most basic information on the internet about OPIOIDS, but defiantly you need to look into this more intensively.

 

[beta1]

All I want to tell you is that you should most definitely do a little more research on this drug before you decide to ingest a decent amount of it, many many people goto sleep and never wake up on these type of drugs.

Don't mean to sound like a parrot repeating the most basic information on the internet about OPIOIDS, but defiantly you need to look into this more intensively.

Actually without other drugs/alcohol mixed in, there are very little Oxy related deaths. I don't remember the exact stats but I know there are less than 50 deaths a year caused by Oxy alone in the US on average in the last 5 years. Don't just post something because it sounds good/correct.

"The vast majority of OxyContin-related deaths are attributed to ingesting substantial quantities of oxycodone in combination with another depressant of the central nervous system such as alcohol or benzodiazepines.[8] While high doses of oxycodone can be fatal to an opiate-naïve individual in and of itself, lethal overdoses of only oxycodone rarely occur."

-Wikipedia

 

[ChemicalBliss910]

I would say crush up two of the 20mg Generic pilss=40mg OC Let it soak in say a lemon juice or vinager solution for say 2-3hrs or if your patient a whole day would probably defeat the wax matrix almost intirely! and mix the acidic solution in with a powerful flavored drink and there you go! If you use lemon juice and add the solution to say a tall glass of orange juice/lemonade you won't taste shit! If it's vinager man up and chug it down with a chaser. I would personaly use say 15-20ml of vinager per pill and chrush all the pills to a fine powder the soulution should be say 200ml let it sit in that solution then you will know it is 20mg/20ml and can dose that way, I just don't know how long the actual Oxycodone can be in a vinager/acidic solution without deteareating? huh but it's sounds goog! LoL! good luck.