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Withdrawing from oxy need advice please

Thanks and More Rambling...

Dragonflies,

Thank You for your kind, empathic sentiments. Yes. It is early. Apart from Shocked, I don't even know how I feel, especially as I was/am still feeling a lot of grief/guilt/anger over my cousins too, too early death in June 2012 aged 33.
I felt like a right twit after I posted: Who the heck did I think I was, offering advice to anyone - let alone vulnerable folk in need of solace and good advice? In that context, thanks for your appreciation.
Have to admit, I feel sorely envious that you've got your own swimming pool. That's rare in England. We just go down the local baths LOL. Although, that shows my old age cos the youth don't know the leisure centres (where the swimming pools are nowadays) used to be where we went to have a bath: Right up until the late 1990's when some of us still didn't have our own bathroom at home. Even if we did, a nice hot bath at the baths was just the ticket. Baths so big you could drown; loads of blisteringly HOT water on tap AND, your laundry getting done simultaneously in the laundrette! Coming out the bath to a stack of washed, dried, ironed warm clothes. Ah....Thems were the days. Aye. Right enough, I'm wallowing in nostalgia in a pathetic attempt to escape my intransigent Pool Envy.
BTW, I don't have an Edit facility in my version of Bluelight. I access the internet via a smartphone, rather than a PC. Maybe the Edit exists on the PC version. Do you use a PC or lapthing?

Regards
 
Guilt and Shame

Want To Be Free,

Please, try to be kinder to yourself. Simply accept yourself for what you are: A good old fashioned human being with all the flaws and mistakes which makes us so uniquely fascinating. I can't recall if you said you'd been clean a few days (Congratulations if you have, Nevermind if you haven't). Try to look at your situation differently. Removing the weapons grade guilt, shame, failure feelings, leaves you with the stuff you need all your mental faculties to deal with, ie. Withdrawal & Sobriety. You really will need ALL the strength you can draw on to fight to stay clean, please don't waste it on beating yourself up.
That said, withdrawal from Oxy, IMO, is worse than WD from Heroin. The worst takes about 4 days. I'm specifically referring to OxyNorm, the quick release powder in capsules, not OxyContin gradual release. After that 4 days, if you treat yourself well, eat good food, drink lots of water, take a daily broad spectrum multi vitamin multi mineral pill, exercise, (just even a short walk a couple of times a day) you should be over the WD in two weeks or so. Everyone's different though. It could be shorter or longer. It's down to metabolism and percentage of body fat because our systems can and do store "toxic" substances in our fat reserves.

Bloody Good Luck to you
 
Hi Diesel Estates

Thank you so much for the kind encouraging words? U r so right and it's easy to forget the things u said. But I will try harder to do them! After reading ur reply I did as u said and I had a great mental day of not beating myself up! It felt so good! As well as a more productive day because of it. So thank u so much! Yes I am starting day 4 of my detox on today the 8th. Today wasn't that bad at all. When u say 2 weeks do u refer to two weeks of misery or mild withdrawals? I try to eat healthy but I'm not a huge exerciser. I barely do any. But I know I should! I don't have much body fat. I'm fairly thin except for my abdomen where fat tends to store from having 9 children. It's not a lot of fat but it still exists. I've never done heroin but I know oxy withdrawals are horrible. I've done them so many times. U would think I would of learned my lesson by now. I hope and pray I do this time because I need to and I want to. I want to be free of the demon! So thanks again for the encouraging words and reminders to not beat myself up! Bless u!
 
Hello All

Well I got thru day 4 of my detox. I'm still holding up ok so far. I think trying to stay mentally positive that it's not going to be that bad. And not obsessing over how bad it's going to be has made a big difference for me this time. Unlike the other times I have detoxed. I think not being super hard on myself like u said Diesel Estate has also played a part in it not being as bad as usual. Anyone else in the process of detoxing right now from opiates. If so speak up plz. Maybe we can support each other thru the days it takes to feel some normalcy as well as have the support of the awesome people on this forum! I have never felt such kindness and warmth as I have from the people on here and from reading the posts on here! Thank u all and thank you moderator for keeping this a sage place post and share without the fear of being flamed or judged! It felt like home from the moment I read the first few posts on this forum! In so happy to be part of this forum! It has helped this detox feel not so scary and so very different!
 
Ive heard of people smoking cannabis during heroin withdrawal as it helps them manage them better bud being a mild analgesic
 
Hi Username321

I'm on day 5 and it's been a little more up and down today with symptoms. I can't smoke cannabis during the day I have kids to take care of and pot makes me loopy. I did smoke some to sleep the other night. Just a few hits and I slept good without the sweats and such. Hoping tomorrow is better. Feeling a little discouraged today. Had some sweats and runny nose. Just want to feel normal. Sigh
 
Damn man I'm sorry to here about your mom, I'm sure it's very hard. I've never experienced that before but I feel like it's coming since my mom abuses her alcohol and sleeping meds and I fear the day that I find gone. But like everyone has said, your out of the woods but the hard part is getting past the need to use. If you absolutely need to get high than smoke weed. It's much much cheaper and lasts a lot longer and virtually no W/Ds(I experience irritability, for most there are no W/Ds) Don't go back, it's not worth it especially since your basically past the physical part. You got this man, live the life you want and not the one you have to. Best of luck!
 
haha! Diesel, don't have pool envy, I can't even use my "swamp" right now because I let it go to hell, because all I cared about was being high. But I hope to get it all fixed up soon. I use a laptop computer diesel.. Thanks again for all your input and help to me and to wanttobefree. You gave some good advice. Everyone who has posted here has helped in some way or other. I thank all of you. Congrats wanttobefree, I know its a tough road. Still clean from opiates, I think I'm on day 14 or something like that. I must say the emotional part is real hard still at this point. The lack of joy, and boredom are a killer. I do not advise sitting in your room all day staring at the walls, you may go mad!! I've been crying a lot, and feeling a great sadness, but I keep telling myself this will pass. I wish I knew how much longer this would last, this seems to be the hardest part for me! Anyone have similar experience?? I did smoke a little bud, to help calm down some, but I mean a little, just to get a head change, seemed to help somewhat, but it won't relieve the awful feeling of dysphoria. Thank you all for your support! Love and hugs to all! And hang in there wanttobefree, it will get better!
 
Agree droppersneck! I've been having sex EVERYDAY and it does help trememdously..But after a while that glowy feeling goes and back to doom and gloom. Plus have two kids and my daughter who is quite young remarked that she heard me making "certain noises" hahaha! How embarassing!! But yeah sex is great and intense and you quickly reach orgasm, so you don't get too tired out at this point.. Wish I could be in a permanent orgasmic state haha!! Don't we all though ;)
 
Thank you oxyghost, I have no intentions of going back, and seriously don't even crave it or anything. Using opes isn't even an option for me at this point, I am so done with that crap. Yeah the depression is the biggest struggle for me right now, but I know it will pass, and it's part of the process. I can't abuse my body, and expect there to be no consequences. I am pretty much bed ridden at this point, but thats because my health is poor, so the withdrawal on top of that makes me that much more weaker. I think some people on this site have mistaken me for a guy, but I'm actually a young wife and mother of two, so I really can't get stoned in the day, but sometimes at night I smoke a little herb to relax. I used to LOVE pot, it was my drug of choice, but now I just mildly like it. Weird isn't it? Well, at least I have my computer and this site to visit. Everyone on here has been so great to me.. All the encouragement and good advice, you all are part of my sucess in this, so thank you all so much!!
 
Cannabis can make acute withdrawal worse, you're already in panic mode about WDing and weed only enhances that anxiety, however I found it absolutely essential for PAWS!
 
All of these comments seem very helpful/meaningful/insightful to me, and perhaps some of them I'll even try myself. ~I'm sorry for your loss as well. A very similar situation for me happened, my dad passed away only a few months ago at 55 years old. Needless to say to try to sooth my downs the bad shit didn't help. And when it(morphine) ran out and I had to stop, the depression of everything that had happened hit me harder than when I was trying to numb myself through the funeral and seeing him, his shell...it numbed the pain at the time, other wise I might have broke down crying on the spot. Anyway, the guilt of doing that crap on top of what was going on hit me as hard as the WD's. Then I remembered, I heard that OTC Loperamide can help, and I know it's a controversial thing. But taking it helped the wd's subside, and lowering the dosage to maybe 10-13 2mg pills every 2-3 days helped get me moving out the door again, helping me feel somewhat more stabilized, and I slowly weened myself off over the course of 3 weeks tops of that as well. Then like others have said here, I just tried to get out and do more again, back into gear so to speak. Sometimes even now I'll take it still occasionally(Lope). ~though atm I'm sort of relapsing myself, after the last month or so. With a more natural type addictive supplement.

~The loss will always be there, but it does get better with time. Specially depending on what you decide to do with your life. ~and yeah, agreed as well that walking, excersize, and trying to eat right also does wonders. Oh, Green Tea helps sometimes too. ^_^ ~Also, I've lost a LOT of loved ones over the years, and I'm still pretty young, but only in the last couple years did I use chemicals as a crutch~witch was definitely not a good idea.

"There is no chemical solution to a spiritual problem." Nice quote I heard the other day on t.v. series.

Congrats on staying off and good luck. ^u^
 
In on day 8 of my oxy withdrawals. I don't have night sweats which used to me one of the things I hated most with opiate withdrawals. I've been using kratom to ease the withdrawals and it's helps completely. But if I don't use the kratom I still feel uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms. When will they be mild enough that I don't need to use the kratom? I am on Day 7 of using the kratom and I don't want to take it too long and have to withdraw off of the kratom. Any help and info would be appreciated.
 
Really Ghost?

I had researched and read that since kratom works on different opiod receptors it doesn't prolong it. And that many people quit opiates with kratom and when stopped kratom had no withdrawals. So I figured it was a safe easy way to go about it. Now I'm confused. I was hoping this was about done since I'm on day 8 without opiates. R u saying I'm going to be back at day one now if I stop the kratom? Anyone here ever used kratom to come off opiates that can share their experience and how they did it? Did u ever use kratom for opiate withdrawals ghost and felt it prolonged the opiate withdrawals? Damn now I'm freaking out. Anyone else know anything about it? I pray I'm not starting back at day one if I stop the kratom now. Sigh
 
Thanks Ghost. I'm going to lower my kratom use for the next few days then go cold turkey. Since I'm on day 10 of no opiates. I'm hoping using the kratom for that time makes jumping off much easier.
 
I've been using opiods (along w/any other drug I can get my grubby paws on) for 10yrs now and the ONLY non-opioid substance that has helped my wd's at all has been KRATOM...
Get you some Maeng-da Kratom powder my friend....and don't be shy w/it either. Use a good 6-8 grams at a time before you knock it...
Good luck! and hang in there!
 
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