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Withdrawing from oxy need advice please

dragonflies

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I am on day 8 of withdrawal from oxycontin. After my mom died suddenly I lost my mind and began abusing. First started with vics, perc, tram then moved on to oxys and at the very end was snorting opanas.. Well this went on for a little over a year. Oxys I was taking the longest at 80mg a day,..the opanas were only at the very end and I only snorted about 10 total. My question is, how long do you think my withdrawals will last? I got over the really hard days, but I'm still in withdrawal.. Does anyone know if I am almost out of the woods? I am just trying to grasp at any hope I can. Sorry if this question has been answered, I just wanted someone more knowledgable than myself to advise me on my particular situation. Thanks a billion to anyone who takes the time to reply. I feel so alone right now, but I am grateful for site like this.:)
 
You should be over most if not all of the physical w/d by now. Now comes the mental part, which for me was the hardest. Hang in there.
 
ok good, still having some physical, but NOTHING like before, I heard that everyone is different, but wonder if there is some sort of estimate to how long the mental part lasts..this is the part that is really getting me too!! Thanks for your reply ghostandthedarknes
 
Hey Dragon, sorry about your loss mate...I can not imagine the pain my friend. I too am struggling with life and drug use....if you are 8 days clean without any chipping, it is basically over, the acute phase I mean. Next is PAWS which is the mental phase. That can go on for months, for some people longer. For me, it was about 3months, after those 3 months I had NO DESIRE to use...eventually it became 4 months clean, and I was not craving but just planned out a weekend to get smacked out. The weekend came, I got smacked out and here I am back at square one.

So WD - 8 days, you are out the woods, well done.

PAWS- may take a few months, depending on individual. If you enrich your life and the things around you, you may not even suffer it that much at all. Some people don't really feel it, if they know deep inside they are done with drugs and have found other hobbies...
 
Thanks Teo,
thats solid advice..I will be enriching my life, as there is so much I want to do still. A little worried about the paws though, especially since I am still not over her death even after a year. I feel raw emotions and been thinking of her all morning. A tip to anyone who thinks opiates will allow you to escape the pain of death,,that's not always the case. They masked my emotions and gave me euphoria, but they only took me so far, the grief was inescapable. I still cried and pined away at her grave, and now with no opiates in my system, the sorrow is still there, you can't run forever.I am reclaiming my life, because she wouldn't want me to slowly kill myself. But there is a sorrow blacker than night upon me now..I wish I could go back, but I can only go forward from here. I just wish I could stop crying and have a tad bit of energy..
 
Keep active man sorry for your loss oh and b12 helped me with energy during my dark times.
 
Dragon, I really hope you can overcome this dude. I really can not imagine the pain you are feeling, and you are also right about the drugs not really covering up such deep grieving. You are high and numb but you still know what happened and can still feel the emotions.

Enrich your life man. Pray for you mom nightly. Know that she is not really that far away. Understand that this life will end for everyone and you will one day be back with her mate. Drugs are definitely not the answer and you seem to understand this. What sort of hobbies are you planning on doing?

Also, well done on kicking the drugs dude...that is a real achievement man. Have you been to a doctor? Have you ever tried anti-depressants? Some people hate them, but I have personally seen people's lives change from anti-depressants. It may help give motivation...obviously they have risks and you may one day have to taper off them too. Your doctor should be able to tell you the ups and downs. Sure beats self medication and not going forward in life.
 
Thank you everyone for all your support and tips. This is the only place I come to for advice and support..even my closest friends didn't know I was using. It really does help to have your input everyone so thank you all so much. I am still very sad, but don't want to be on antidepressents, I was on zoloft in the past, but would rather be without. I think I just need to process her death in my own way instead of running. Still clean, and have no intentions of going back. The main physical issue is the EXTREME fatigue!! I can't get myself to do shit!! On top of that I am severley anemic, due to medical condition,,so this is killing me. Any advice on natural energy boosters that really work? I tried l tyrosine 500mg took 2 with a multi-vitamin, but didn't help at all. Any suggestions welcome and thanks again everyone!
 
I wanted to start by offering my deepest sympathy with regards to your mom. It is very couragious of you to get clean.
As far as the extreme fatigue goes, your doing the right things by taking multivitamin and sups. I would also ensure eating healthy (as best you can) and drinking plenty of water. Lastly, the best thing I have found is exercise. I know this is easier said than done, take baby steps. Start out maybe with a brisk walk ( throw on some headphones) and try to improve each day. I have found the quicker I fight the fatigue, the quicker I get my energy back. I wish you all the best in your recovery.
 
Thank you so much groundhogdayagain! I know you are right and today I am going to push myself to at least walk. I took vitamin b12 (thanks big tipper) for that advice, it really helped. As far as the healthy eating, I have kind of been eating junk food, so I'm going to have to try your advice on that thank you!
 
Sincere Condolences

Hi Dragonfly,
I've 3 things in common with you. My mum passed away from cancer almost 4 weeks ago. It took her very quickly: In 12 weeks she went from a vibrant 67 year old working phlebotomist, to a tortured skeleton in a hospice bed. It's just begun to hit me.
As a heroin junkie, I relapsed over 2 years ago, in circumstances similar to the bloke who just wanted to get smacked over the weekend.
Cos I basically spend nearly all my cash on brown, and still can't afford my idiot habit, I avoid dope sickness with OxyNorm, the powdered form in capsules, which I prefer to snort but, occasionally eat.
Now. In June 2012 I lost my 33 year old cousin, who was like my little brother, to almost the same cancer that just took my mum (turns out I belong to a "Cancer Family" my maternal grandfather died of it too). I was 300 miles from home. Over the course of three weeks, staying with my eldest son, visiting my dying cuz, then attending his funeral. I ran out of everything. I was skint. I agree: WD from Oxy is Hell. IMO, worse than smack, particularly the monstrous physicality of it. I'm old. It took about 4 days just to even be able to get out of bed to get my arse down to my Dad's, whose GF gave me a sheet of 30mg/500mg Codeine/Paracetamol she was getting off her GP to alleviate her painful dodgy hip prior to a hip replacement operation. Man, did that help - Big Time. Although, I think they were effective due to 4 days Cold Turkey reducing my opiate/opioid tolerance. I tried to drink as much warm/hot water as comfortably possible to pee out the bad stuff and keep myself warm cos I was bonkers cold and it was summer. I used essential oils to relax and ameliorate stress. Bergamot & Lavender are good. Lemon & Tea Tree Oil's good for when you need "uplifting". You don't have to massage it over you. Simply applying a drop to your pulse points works wonders. The human olfactory system is woefully under explored. I also have Rheumatoid Arthritis, which is why I became a junkie six years ago. I used Capsicum capsules to keep my body warm too. Taking a daily broad spectrum multi vitamin, multi mineral tab or cap is essential. Try to eat well, and regularly. Small, but often. So four or five small meals a day rather than three "square" meals. Try to eat clean protein, such as pulses (lentils and beans) as well as low fat lean meat like chicken, rabbit, turkey, rather than beef. Dark green leafy vegetables such as kale are important, as is broccoli. Lettuce is really good because it has a very calming, soothing effect on our system BUT, choose round head butter lettuce rather than iceberg. Fruit, not too much citrus, which is way too acidic. Above all, try to get organically produced food. Right now, you need as few unnecessary chemicals as possible in your body which, as you know, is in desperate recovery mode. Basically, I agree with all the stuff others have said. It's a uniquely individual experience. I reckon that if I keep myself busy every day (like when I got clean for over a year) the psychological aspects of addiction and addictive behaviours is somewhat diminished. Then there's night time. Which is hard. Sleep, or rather the lack of sleep, plus my brain running on like an engine pinking. If you really need an indication of time, then I'd go for between six to nine months until you're reliably compos mentis, as long as you steer clear of alcohol: It's a very easy gateway or trigger for the harder stuff. Even then, it will take years of cautious abstinence before you're "out of the woods".
I don't know if any of what I've babbled will help you or, if it's even cogent or coherent. Most of all, I want to congratulate you on re-igniting the fire in your belly which has enabled you to say No, and mean it. It sure is a difficult time to resume control of your life in areas, which for me, I just couldn't handle right now. I respect and admire your courage. Sorry my ha'penny worth's SO long! Best Wishes to you, for a peaceful year ahead.
 
Sincere Condolences

Hi Dragonfly,
I've 3 things in common with you. My mum passed away from cancer almost 4 weeks ago. It took her very quickly: In 12 weeks she went from a vibrant 67 year old working phlebotomist, to a tortured skeleton in a hospice bed. It's just begun to hit me.
As a heroin junkie, I relapsed over 2 years ago, in circumstances similar to the bloke who just wanted to get smacked over the weekend.
Cos I basically spend nearly all my cash on brown, and still can't afford my idiot habit, I avoid dope sickness with OxyNorm, the powdered form in capsules, which I prefer to snort but, occasionally eat.
Now. In June 2012 I lost my 33 year old cousin, who was like my little brother, to almost the same cancer that just took my mum (turns out I belong to a "Cancer Family" my maternal grandfather died of it too). I was 300 miles from home. Over the course of three weeks, staying with my eldest son, visiting my dying cuz, then attending his funeral. I ran out of everything. I was skint. I agree: WD from Oxy is Hell. IMO, worse than smack, particularly the monstrous physicality of it. I'm old. It took about 4 days just to even be able to get out of bed to get my arse down to my Dad's, whose GF gave me a sheet of 30mg/500mg Codeine/Paracetamol she was getting off her GP to alleviate her painful dodgy hip prior to a hip replacement operation. Man, did that help - Big Time. Although, I think they were effective due to 4 days Cold Turkey reducing my opiate/opioid tolerance. I tried to drink as much warm/hot water as comfortably possible to pee out the bad stuff and keep myself warm cos I was bonkers cold and it was summer. I used essential oils to relax and ameliorate stress. Bergamot & Lavender are good. Lemon & Tea Tree Oil's good for when you need "uplifting". You don't have to massage it over you. Simply applying a drop to your pulse points works wonders. The human olfactory system is woefully under explored. I also have Rheumatoid Arthritis, which is why I became a junkie six years ago. I used Capsicum capsules to keep my body warm too. Taking a daily broad spectrum multi vitamin, multi mineral tab or cap is essential. Try to eat well, and regularly. Small, but often. So four or five small meals a day rather than three "square" meals. Try to eat clean protein, such as pulses (lentils and beans) as well as low fat lean meat like chicken, rabbit, turkey, rather than beef. Dark green leafy vegetables such as kale are important, as is broccoli. Lettuce is really good because it has a very calming, soothing effect on our system BUT, choose round head butter lettuce rather than iceberg. Fruit, not too much citrus, which is way too acidic. Above all, try to get organically produced food. Right now, you need as few unnecessary chemicals as possible in your body which, as you know, is in desperate recovery mode. Basically, I agree with all the stuff others have said. It's a uniquely individual experience. I reckon that if I keep myself busy every day (like when I got clean for over a year) the psychological aspects of addiction and addictive behaviours is somewhat diminished. Then there's night time. Which is hard. Sleep, or rather the lack of sleep, plus my brain running on like an engine pinking. If you really need an indication of time, then I'd go for between six to nine months until you're reliably compos mentis, as long as you steer clear of alcohol: It's a very easy gateway or trigger for the harder stuff. Even then, it will take years of cautious abstinence before you're "out of the woods".
I don't know if any of what I've babbled will help you or, if it's even cogent or coherent. Most of all, I want to congratulate you on re-igniting the fire in your belly which has enabled you to say No, and mean it. It sure is a difficult time to resume control of your life in areas, which for me, I just couldn't handle right now. I respect and admire your courage. Sorry my ha'penny worth's SO long! Best Wishes to you, for a peaceful year ahead.
 
A Much Shorter One....

Dragonflies,

Just got to add: Totally agree with the geezer who says exercise. Oh Yes. Swimming's brilliant. Quiet, solitary and effective.

I didn't see that you were querying energy boosters. Guarana and Ginseng, especially Siberian Ginseng. Even the Guarana chewing gum (the ones without sugar overload). Again, go for good quality products. All The Best to you.
 
Wow Dieselestate, I am so sorry for your tough times right now. Losing your mom 4 weeks ago, that must be very hard for you right now, seeing as how it is so early in the greiving process and the manner in which she died. Thank you for taking the time to tell me about what you're going through and offer some tips. I don't think Monster tacos from jack in the box qualify for healthy eating haha I am really going to turn my attention to excercise and diet. Funny you mention the swimming thing, I love to swim, always have. I have a beautiful huge built in pool that would be perfect, except that the pool pump broke, and me being an addict for that time, I did nothing to fix it. What was once crystal blue water, looks like a swamp! Also have a hot tub just sitting there, maybe now that i am clean I can have the electrical run so I can use that to help me. Funny how careless we become when addicted. I am going to look into the ginseng. Thanks for all your tips, good to have your help, and sorry again about your mother, I know how much that stings.
 
Hi Everyone

My story is a long one. But if I have been using some substances to eliminate withdrawals from oxys what is the average time it takes for major withdrawal symptoms to subside. I want to know when its safe to stop other things I'm taking so I don't end up having to withdraw from them too! I'm on day two and have no symptoms where I have come off of opiates more times then I can count and went thru horrible withdrawals before I found gabapentin. Its amazing stuff. But I want to know what the average time is for most before u feel better when u have relapsed so many times. It seems every time I relapse and go thru withdrawals they last longer and longer sigh. But I would love an approx time to look forward to and to also stop these other things I'm using. Can anyone help? I'm just feeling hopeless and even though my symptoms are eliminated I feel like a failure for ending up in this place once again because I always think I can manage my usage. I have chronic pain I take oxys for. But one day of use for pain always ends in me blowing thru my script so fast thinking I can use extra for one day of feeling good and get a high. I'm looking for some hope and encouragement. Thanks for listening. Sorry for rambling.
 
I know how you feel wanttobefree..and I wish I could tell you a timeline, but I'm not that knowlegable in that. I can say for me I quit cold turkey after using opiates over a year, and day 3 was the worst for me. Up until day 8 I was feeling better physically, but the mental part was/is hard. Not craving, because I don't want them at all, I'm done, but the feelings of sorrow, and EXTREME fatigue are a mofo! Please don't apologize for telling your story, and we can beat this if we really want too, thats the good news. I pretty much given up the idea that this is going to be a breeze, I know its an uphill battle, but I'm clean so I'm winning. The lethargy is really getting me, I think most people have lingering issues far after the drug has left the system. And I hear it is different for everyone, but all the really painful symptoms have subsided, but the fatigue is a Challenge to say the least, especially for me, I don't like being confined to bed. I got a lot of good advice on here, ghost, bigtipper, diesel, teo, groundhog..you might want to read their suggestions, they had awesome advice and support. Maybe if you tell us how long you were using, and at what dosage someone can better help you. Hang in there and dont give up ok. And try not to think of your relapses as failures, might not be good for you mentally. You are trying your best right now, and thats all that matters. I know how fast it can suck you in and how addictive it is, so remember that you are only human. Just don't give up ok :)
 
Thanks for kind words dragonflies. I have been using on and off for over 12 years. I used to abuse cocaine. I put myself in a rehab and was clean for 18 years then I met opiates for chronic pain and it was a love hate relationship. I used different doses every time. Stopped for 2-6 months so many different times. This last time I'd use for a week stop for 5-10 days then use for 7-10 days then use again. This last time I blew threw 90 ten mg oxys. I used to snort a lot of opanas. When I blew thru 600 ten mg opanas and took 20mg opana ERS I put myself in a rehab again. I stopped for about 90 days and had no cravings until I had to take for my pain and the monster was woken up. And I just can't stop craving and wanting them and I'm so tired and ashamed of being in withdrawals once again. I understand not wanting to get out of bed. I am in bed a lot and then I feel guilty and feel like a failure I'm getting nothing done. Its such a vicious cycle. I appreciate talking with people who get it and don't look at u in disgust and say why can't u just stop using. Why can't u get out of bed and get stuff done. That just cements how crappy I already feel about myself. I just want to get thru this detox and get my mind right! It just sucks living like this or should I say not living barely existing. I will find the posts u spoke of. R they recent or old? Thanks again for the kind words they mean a lot!
 
That should of said I blew threw 90 in ten days and 600 in a months time frame when I put myself in a rehab.
 
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