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Harm Reduction Withdrawing from heroin, will these be enough?

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Hey BLers,

I'm trying to get off of black tar heroin, been smoking and snorting (water lining) everyday for a few months and am having a very tough time trying to go cold turkey. I've relapsed many times. So I've decided to stack up on a bunch of somas, tramadol, and just a few xanax. Do you guys think that's enough for me to get off heroin?

Planning to use tramadol whenever I feel sick since it is an opioid (although weak) and somas to get sleep and prevent RLS. Will I still feel really sick or do you think that's enough to get me through the withdrawals? I'll eventually withdraw from tramadol too, right?

If worst comes to worst I'll get some suboxone (from the streets, overpriced) but I'm hoping somas and tramadol are enough. Any experiences or input? Thanks.
 
How much scag have you been doing every day?

The tramadol, somas and a few xanax sound find to me. It's just, you talk about suboxone and its high price, like you would rather have that but it's not worth it, and cold turkey isn't going to work for you.

All I'm saying is (personally), the only way to really quit is cold turkey, and this is comming from someone who has been on both MMT and BMT.
No pain, no gain dude. Heroin withdrawals (albiet crazy) don't last THAT long anyways.

I'd save the xanax for after the worst of the withdrawals, since you'll have a fat anxiety spike for a relatively short amount of time.

Lastly, watch out for trading one addiction for another, as cliched as that sounds.
 
I would just kick using the soma and xanax. You can either use those to try to knock yourself out so you don't feel as bad, or you can use another opioid to delay the inevitable, but making it more manageable. You wouldn't even need a full 8mg pill to detox, although you will still have a few days of mild withdrawal once you are done.

I don't know how effective tramadol would be, and would say that if you are going to use any opioid, you may as well use suboxone. I personally prefer not to use any opioids for withdrawal because I just want to get it over with asap, and I'm usually a day into it already when I decide to stop.
 
OP these guys advice is spot on! I think subs would be you best option if you are not going cold turkey, as tommyboy said you could detox with one 8mg pill. Anyway just wanted to wish you good luck mate!
 
Thanks guys. My habit isn't too bad, 0.2-0.5 (rarely 0.5 but I have my days) a day of really good quality tar. To get the subs, I'd have to pay for someone else's visit to the detox clinic and pay separately for each individual pill. The tramadol/soma is practically free and I'd have about 100 somas, 90 tramadols, and 10 xanax. perhaps I'm being a pansy about quitting compared to a lot of other people's habits. but I have to be functional at work (small talk with strangers - which is the worst part) and physical labor (cleaning dishes, mopping floors, etc).
 
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You have way more than enough trams & somas. You'll be fine dude. You might not even feel the withdrawals, especially if you add some Tylenol to the mix.

Loperamide will take away the intestinal cramping and (initial) hershy squirts.

-I know this is sort of off topic, but on my last run I was using 2 grams a day amber & 12mg a day alpraz. I got off both with a single high dose MXE trip. Absolutely ZERO withdrawals. Shit is science magical.
 
DexterMeth said:
You have way more than enough trams & somas. You'll be fine dude. You might not even feel the withdrawals, especially if you add some Tylenol to the mix.

Loperamide will take away the intestinal cramping and (initial) hershy squirts.

-I know this is sort of off topic, but on my last run I was using 2 grams a day amber & 12mg a day alpraz. I got off both with a single high dose MXE trip. Absolutely ZERO withdrawals. Shit is science magical.
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wow. hard to believe but i don't think there's a reason you'd lie, will definitely look into that. never tried it.
 
In that case, the subs aren't worth it. If you use the tramadol you should only use it for 3 days. Do you have two consecutive days off, because that would be ideal. You should try to plan it so that your last dose of tramadol is the night before or morning of your last day of work before your days off, assuming that you can get off.

To be honest, you're probably better off just kicking without the tramadol. It will save you from having to figure out a proper dose, and if you ended up taking it for too long you could have withdrawals from the tramadol, which are longer and worse mentally than withdrawal from heroin.

Taper down the heroin dose, and basically do the same as I said with the tramadol, and take your last dose the night before your last day before your day(s) off. You know when you will start to be too sick to be at work, so just get your last dose in early enough so that you start getting through the withdrawal, but late enough so that you can be alright to work, assuming that you will have some days off after it. Then you can use the soma and maybe some xanax to help with sleep and RLS for a few days.

Don't psyche yourself out for this. It's not going to be that bad, and thinking that it will be bad may make it worse. A lot of it is mental, so think positive. Tramadol or no tramadol, you will still get through it pretty quickly.
 
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