IceBearKnows
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SWIM has been using powder heroin, occasionally cut with Fentanyl (like 1/4 of the time, depending) for six months. This person makes sure to only buy it 5 pts at a time and shares it with his girlfriend. They make sure it's gone in two days, and don't obtain more for a week at a time. They sometimes snort it, sometimes smoke it off foil. The reason these controls are in place is so that SWIM and his girl can ascertain if the drug has a hold on them outside of the appropriated usage period and cease using (or cut back). They have made a pact to never shoot dope.
This weekend was just a 3 day weekend and SWIM's girl is throwing up this morning after the first time they used for 3 consecutive days (still .5, it was just a little better than usual and it carried over, per SWIM).
Because most people I read tend to be talking about IV usage and associated WDs which seem to come on much faster, my questions are as follows:
1) Does dope sickness come like a freight train for newish users? Like does it come on in 6-8 hours like it does for established users, or IV users? Or should new users expect for it to be mild at first, with symptoms getting progressively worse as the user builds more and more of a tolerance? The reason I am asking is because SWIM has continued to use the same .5 (part as a function of cost and packaging, as much as it is the desire to place a ceiling on the festivities) since they began dabbling around Thanksgiving.
For example: SWIM once used Percocet for 5 days straight, probably 50 mg a day and had the runs and a little bit of restless leg and insomnia for about 24 hours. Therefore it gave SWIM a baseline for future events. But thus far, SWIM hasn't had any of those issues, and hasn't detected them in his girl until today. And now SWIM is preparing for her to be asking at the end of work today if arrangements can be made, and is in the usual position of strength to say no. But is worried because it's a couples activity and if she can't play, then SWIM is out of commission as well. It isn't the end of the world for SWIM, but SWIM doesn't want his girlfriend to have issues, but he also doesn't want to feel resented for not having the same sort of attachment. SWIM has been thru this before during his "cocaine period" with a couple of girls.
2) Snorting and smoking as method. Withdraws intensity? How is it compared to IV? I would think it goes a little easier on you. Should we expect to be violently ill? Because SWIMs girl was exorcising demons this AM.
In summation: SWIM expected that because use was moderate and inconsistently consistent that they could dodge the WDs. Is this a pipedream? Unavoidable? So far SWIM is quite comfortable with the routine.
Bonus question: SWIM has a friend who had the typical car accident issue that led to street dope usage. Said buddy had a 150 mg a day tolerance built up from medications, and uses far less dope since it's stronger. But he claims that when he has to use pills, he can't feel a thing unless it's a minimum of 100 mg. Even after not using for long stretches of trying to be clean. Is the friend full of crap? Can the tolerance level not recede?
Thanks to any and all who took the time to read this. Just seeming to find SWIM's situation a bit unique compared to most here.
This weekend was just a 3 day weekend and SWIM's girl is throwing up this morning after the first time they used for 3 consecutive days (still .5, it was just a little better than usual and it carried over, per SWIM).
Because most people I read tend to be talking about IV usage and associated WDs which seem to come on much faster, my questions are as follows:
1) Does dope sickness come like a freight train for newish users? Like does it come on in 6-8 hours like it does for established users, or IV users? Or should new users expect for it to be mild at first, with symptoms getting progressively worse as the user builds more and more of a tolerance? The reason I am asking is because SWIM has continued to use the same .5 (part as a function of cost and packaging, as much as it is the desire to place a ceiling on the festivities) since they began dabbling around Thanksgiving.
For example: SWIM once used Percocet for 5 days straight, probably 50 mg a day and had the runs and a little bit of restless leg and insomnia for about 24 hours. Therefore it gave SWIM a baseline for future events. But thus far, SWIM hasn't had any of those issues, and hasn't detected them in his girl until today. And now SWIM is preparing for her to be asking at the end of work today if arrangements can be made, and is in the usual position of strength to say no. But is worried because it's a couples activity and if she can't play, then SWIM is out of commission as well. It isn't the end of the world for SWIM, but SWIM doesn't want his girlfriend to have issues, but he also doesn't want to feel resented for not having the same sort of attachment. SWIM has been thru this before during his "cocaine period" with a couple of girls.
2) Snorting and smoking as method. Withdraws intensity? How is it compared to IV? I would think it goes a little easier on you. Should we expect to be violently ill? Because SWIMs girl was exorcising demons this AM.
In summation: SWIM expected that because use was moderate and inconsistently consistent that they could dodge the WDs. Is this a pipedream? Unavoidable? So far SWIM is quite comfortable with the routine.
Bonus question: SWIM has a friend who had the typical car accident issue that led to street dope usage. Said buddy had a 150 mg a day tolerance built up from medications, and uses far less dope since it's stronger. But he claims that when he has to use pills, he can't feel a thing unless it's a minimum of 100 mg. Even after not using for long stretches of trying to be clean. Is the friend full of crap? Can the tolerance level not recede?
Thanks to any and all who took the time to read this. Just seeming to find SWIM's situation a bit unique compared to most here.