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Bupe Winging off subs!!!

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Money Murda

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Hi guys im new to this i really wanna get off subs iv been on them for over a yr n half and im down to my last 2 subs i have started iv'ing them which is something i would never do in the past but i only have 2 8mg subs left and i was told i can take way smaller doses and make it last allot longer by iv'ing them im just wondering what will help me get there the withdrawals when i run out allot ppl say u shouldn't withdrawal till few days without them but it seems to hit me within 24 hrs without anything i have no insurance i will have some money but the dr is kinda out of the question is there any hope for me being able to find something to help me get threw this? :?
 
Hey Money, once again Welcome to BL.

What dose were you stabilized at? That's going to play a large role in this.

I personally would advise NOT to IV your suboxone doses because for me at least the duration of action was greatly reduced. I have only used suboxone to detox at home though I have never been on maintenance so I don't know how that changes things but I'm sure it somehow does. It is very strange to me that with you being on suboxone for 1.5 years that you would be getting sick after 24 hours. Because of the long half-life of suboxone which is 20-73 hours and the length of time you were on it you should have tons of it built up into your system. It is tough because you only have 16mg's left, I would recommend doing a quick taper and only taking as much as needed to keep you well.

Also wait till someone like Swimmingdancer see's this post she'll be able to give you a lot of awesome information. The bad news is you are going to be pretty sick no matter how you decide to use your last two strips, I would try to find some illicitly if you can (am I allowed to suggest that?) so you can continue your taper. Also I'd look into Swimmingdancer's post on immodium for methadone withdrawal which can be found using the search function. On the last page she lists a lot of really good supplements that help with withdrawals (I'm using them so I can vouch for how much they work).
 
lmao he means that buying something illicitly means getting it off the street, i.e. illegally.
 
So u think i should get a few more and taper my way down how low should i go and how long till i go without anything?
 
I think if you can get more I would definitely do it. Honestly if your on 16mgs then 8 should easily still hold you. If your on 8mg then I'd start taking only 4 mg's. This is where I have to bow out though because I don't know how fast or slow you have to taper bupe to have it be as easy as possible but lots of people on the site have done it. Ideally you would want to get around .5mgs. Anything above that for a jumping point is going to stink.
 
Money Murda said:
yes off the street
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Just keep an eye on the street next time you go for a walk, if you see something orange buried in the trash and leaves, you may be on to something!

In all seriousness, 8-16 mgs is way more than you should have been taking for an extended period of time....

having only 2 8s left doesn't give you much room to taper, didn't you see this day coming when you were running lower and lower everyday....

Get more if you can, if not find something else to taper with, but coming off that much sub pretty much cold turkey is most likely gonna be 20-30 days of being very uncomfortable!
 
Don't be pissed. Ton's of people don't realize that their suboxone prescribed dosage is way more than they need. It makes sense to trust your prescribing doctor, but when it comes to subs they way over prescribe and think because its a partial agonist the withdrawals aren't that bad. Would love to see one of them detox from 16mgs a day..
 
When I know I'm gonbna go into WD it kinda gives me that feeling of getting strapped into a roller coaster and hearing that clicking noise before you hit the first drop!

You're not in THAT deep and there's plenty of people here who have been through the same or much worse and have survived, myself included....

I would only take 4 mgs today, actually I would take the minimal dose that will still hold you and taper from there with the remaining 16mg....

Ideally, you somehow need to get more! If you go to an ER in the US and there's a doctor there qualified to prescribe suboxone you could get a script for another 16-20 8s at least, which is really all you'd need....

even if you can get 6-10 more of them, it would give you a lot more breathing room! Sorry you're up against it right now and feeling the pressure! That's a feeling only an opiate user can really understand and it's fucking scary I know!
 
I can just walk into a sub dr and get like 16-20 ? dont u gotta pay like 300$ for a visit then go pay like 8-12$ each when getting it filled?
 
He meant go to the ER and hope there is a sub doctor there but yeah your gonna have to pay for them at the pharmacy
 
^Yeah if you go to the ER you might get lucky and get a one time script for a few subs, OR they might ust tell you to F yourself and charge you 900 dollars for their trouble, it depends on the ER, the doctor etc....but if you're desperate it's worth a try, but as m08 just said, you still have to pay for them at the pharmacy which isn't cheap...
 
How much are you IV'ing? Because with such high BA, shooting your suboxone can end up skyrocketing your tolerance if you're not careful.

If I were you, I would try and get more suboxone and keep weening down sublingually. The ideal place to jump off of suboxone is <1mg. Preferably way less than 1mg.

But, IV'ing it, even if dosed correctly, filtered correctly (you should be micron filtering), usually just brings on a whole host of new problems.
 
^Yeah not to scare the OP, but IVing them is where you really fucked yourself in the ass even deeper! Because as Scag said, the bioavailabilty is so much higher it's almost like doing twice as much when you IV it as opposed to taken it sublingually, so if you detox and go the sublingual route you're gonna probably have to do quite a bit more to equal what you were IVing, and that's where it gets complicated!

I suppose you could taper going the IV route, IDK.....I wouldn't tell a doctor you're IVing them though! Noo!
 
BlueHues said:
^Yeah not to scare the OP, but IVing them is where you really fucked yourself in the ass even deeper! Because as Scag said, the bioavailabilty is so much higher it's almost like doing twice as much when you IV it as opposed to taken it sublingually, so if you detox and go the sublingual route you're gonna probably have to do quite a bit more to equal what you were IVing, and that's where it gets complicated!

I suppose you could taper going the IV route, IDK.....I wouldn't tell a doctor you're IVing them though! Noo!
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Exactly.
 
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