the_oatster
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I 2nd that
hamhurricane
Bluelighter
unfortunately, there is (yet) no name for the compound as it is actually novel, at least if what they are selling is true to the diagram presented - its is not WIN55212-3 as this has no recreational value whatsoever - nor is it WIN55212-2 from the sound of it's low(ish) potency. its unlikely that its the pure r-isomer unless a stereoselective synthesis is easier, always expect the easiest route - probably the mesylate salt. the only difference between this and the 212-2 is a propyl chain added in the 2-position in the napthalene moiety, im not sure they why must keep synthing these napthyl cannabinoids, the benzylmethoxys are quite active - i would also like to see some Pravadoline
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carbon unit
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According to a vendor site....
Win 55 being ... mellow WIN 48 (and) Win 55 - an extreme agonist of CB1 receptor, whereas Win 48 is equal to both.... will create a new chemical with TWO Carbon chain extensions...
So, it would seem winfx is a combo of win55 and 48?
*various snips*
Win 55 being ... mellow WIN 48 (and) Win 55 - an extreme agonist of CB1 receptor, whereas Win 48 is equal to both.... will create a new chemical with TWO Carbon chain extensions...
So, it would seem winfx is a combo of win55 and 48?
*various snips*
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hamhurricane
Bluelighter
yes but they are using very confusing non-technical language "WINFX," if it is indeed the same as the diagram presented, is a "combo" in the sense that it incorporates structural aspects of both cannabinoids but is a distinct molecular entity - not a mixture of two different chemicals. a mule is a combination of a donkey and a horse, not a heterogenous mixture of donkeys and horses - you follow?
carbon unit
Bluelighter
Ok, after sampling this substance a good 2 dozen times, I have to say I like it... a lot.
Nice analgesic properties, no weird neuro effects as I've experienced with 018.
Short lasting yes (which is not a detraction for me) and more needs to be used (20-50mg) but I find that the high is intensely psychedelic. Psychedelic not like acid but like a very strong hash. In fact, the last time I was able to experience the same level of cev's and inner mind travels was with some amazing keef (sp) back in the early 70's. No paranoia at all.
I like.
Nice analgesic properties, no weird neuro effects as I've experienced with 018.
Short lasting yes (which is not a detraction for me) and more needs to be used (20-50mg) but I find that the high is intensely psychedelic. Psychedelic not like acid but like a very strong hash. In fact, the last time I was able to experience the same level of cev's and inner mind travels was with some amazing keef (sp) back in the early 70's. No paranoia at all.
I like.
carbon unit
Bluelighter
I would describe the taste when smoked as 'chemicalish', but not too retched.
I think 5mg is too low a dose for this stuff, but not having snorted it I couldn't say what a good dose would be.
I find about 20 up to 50mg (perhaps even more, but I'm pretty much a lightweight) a decent dose for smoking though.
Some more observations... pretty short acting, maybe 45 min for back to baseline... but that's a plus as far as I'm concerned.
For some reason, I find this stuff to alter time perception big time, especially the first 5 - 10 min which seems like 20 min to a half hour to me. Really weird and consistent in this regard.
I also find it 'opens me up' to the 'other place', kind of like how salvia does... entities and weird machinations of the mind occur, but there is no paranoia and a pervasive calm sets in.
I believe win fx will turn out to be strongly anti inflammatory, just my sense of it. It does give a nice mellow analgesic numbness that is noticeable to me.
One thing it does well is provide the sense of release and relief that smoking cannabis gives, yet there is a bit of stimulation as well. My woman and I both agree that sex is enhanced at every level with winfx... tactile, mental, pleasure, libido, all these aspects of sexual enjoyment seem increased. Dare I call it an aphrodisiac? Well, if not that, it does enhance the experience (but lots of drugs do, so it might be a moot point).
I think 5mg is too low a dose for this stuff, but not having snorted it I couldn't say what a good dose would be.
I find about 20 up to 50mg (perhaps even more, but I'm pretty much a lightweight) a decent dose for smoking though.
Some more observations... pretty short acting, maybe 45 min for back to baseline... but that's a plus as far as I'm concerned.
For some reason, I find this stuff to alter time perception big time, especially the first 5 - 10 min which seems like 20 min to a half hour to me. Really weird and consistent in this regard.
I also find it 'opens me up' to the 'other place', kind of like how salvia does... entities and weird machinations of the mind occur, but there is no paranoia and a pervasive calm sets in.
I believe win fx will turn out to be strongly anti inflammatory, just my sense of it. It does give a nice mellow analgesic numbness that is noticeable to me.
One thing it does well is provide the sense of release and relief that smoking cannabis gives, yet there is a bit of stimulation as well. My woman and I both agree that sex is enhanced at every level with winfx... tactile, mental, pleasure, libido, all these aspects of sexual enjoyment seem increased. Dare I call it an aphrodisiac? Well, if not that, it does enhance the experience (but lots of drugs do, so it might be a moot point).
Seeddrill
Bluelighter
What's a good dose for oral besides "a bit on the end of a pin"
carbon unit
Bluelighter
update... just got another batch of win fx and now, it's an off white powder rather than pink. Tastes the same though with same effects.
I still like this stuff, but i notice my tolerance rapidly developing.
I still like this stuff, but i notice my tolerance rapidly developing.