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fairnymph
Ex-Bluelighter
I would say, take 3-4 your first time...also, this topic (i.e. CODEINE) has been convered a gazillion times before...do a search in this forum and you will find all the information you need.
starlightgemini
Bluelighter
RAVE_G: you are right about it being important to KNOW your substance. but thats why he is ASKING. cause he doesn't know. this is a harm reduction site. this is a place where people can come to get INFORMATION about things. in my opinion--he's being smart by asking for opinions, hoping someone here can help. be nice!! :D
jeff-- i personally have no experience with tylenol 3, so, i can't help ya there. but i just wanted to say that above. good luck finding the info you need. as fairnymph said, go to "SEARCH" (the link is in the utmost top right corner of the site) and type in "tylenol 3" or "codeine" and make sure to search in the "other drugs" forum. i'm sure you'll find tons of info there
~kristen~
jeff-- i personally have no experience with tylenol 3, so, i can't help ya there. but i just wanted to say that above. good luck finding the info you need. as fairnymph said, go to "SEARCH" (the link is in the utmost top right corner of the site) and type in "tylenol 3" or "codeine" and make sure to search in the "other drugs" forum. i'm sure you'll find tons of info there
~kristen~
FunkayRavin
Bluelighter
maybe im wrong.. but i think tylenol 3 has acetomenophen (sp) in it.. also run a search for the cold water extraction.
fairnymph
Ex-Bluelighter
^^^
For a newbie who is just taking a few pills, the APAP won't be much of a problem...
For a newbie who is just taking a few pills, the APAP won't be much of a problem...
Thurgood
Bluelighter
SovietContin
Bluelighter
2500mgs of APAP is NOT too much. I am so sick of this fucking topic. People take handfuls of Tylenol all the time. They don't die. I used to take handfuls of Percocet all the time. I never died. My numbers are fine.
Infact, most people notice absolutely zero ill effects. This whole thing started a while ago as some quirky fact to be used as an argument to say "tylenol is bad so we should legalize drugs!"
Actually, the first drug I ever abused was codeine from Tylenol 3. I tried it even before marijuana. You could say that TYLENOL 3 WAS MY GATEWAY DRUG. A friend gave me half a bottle and for two weeks straight I'd eat 6-8 Tylenol 3's every single night. Just popped them all at once. I was fine.
People just blindly repeat this crap about APAP being so0o0o0o0o dangerous and all they know is what they read off of these stupid message boards written by some 17 year old high school raver.
If you are someone who is in chronic pain who takes Tylenol every single day for months maybe years, you will have problems.
If you drink a 12 pack of beer every time you take painkillers with APAP or take Tylenol, you will have problems.
If you take a handful of Tylenol 3's one weekend, you will be fine. Try not to drink if you take them. But yeah, I have to say that a handful of T3's will go down smoother with a shot of JD. Worse comes to worse you might have a little stomach ache. At that point, go running home crying to mommy like the little faggot you are and stop taking drugs because you're a bitch.
Infact, most people notice absolutely zero ill effects. This whole thing started a while ago as some quirky fact to be used as an argument to say "tylenol is bad so we should legalize drugs!"
Actually, the first drug I ever abused was codeine from Tylenol 3. I tried it even before marijuana. You could say that TYLENOL 3 WAS MY GATEWAY DRUG. A friend gave me half a bottle and for two weeks straight I'd eat 6-8 Tylenol 3's every single night. Just popped them all at once. I was fine.
People just blindly repeat this crap about APAP being so0o0o0o0o dangerous and all they know is what they read off of these stupid message boards written by some 17 year old high school raver.
If you are someone who is in chronic pain who takes Tylenol every single day for months maybe years, you will have problems.
If you drink a 12 pack of beer every time you take painkillers with APAP or take Tylenol, you will have problems.
If you take a handful of Tylenol 3's one weekend, you will be fine. Try not to drink if you take them. But yeah, I have to say that a handful of T3's will go down smoother with a shot of JD. Worse comes to worse you might have a little stomach ache. At that point, go running home crying to mommy like the little faggot you are and stop taking drugs because you're a bitch.
FunkayRavin
Bluelighter
hmm.. i thought this was a harm reduction board, not a "your a fucking faggot because you dont want to chew on your organs with some APAP". why dont you go huff some fucking gasoline? sure, you wont fall over dead your first time, but it doesnt mean its not bad for you. when i take drugs, i try to minimalize the risks, and minimalize the shitty things i have to put into my body. tylenol is pretty rough on your liver. no, it wont kill you in a day, or a week, or even 10 years... but still, if you can avoid it at the SMALL cost of taking a little extra time to do a little extraction, i think its worth it.
Technical User
Bluelighter
This APAP shit pisses me off too, every time someone mentions they got some pills, someone chimes in and says that shits bad for you, you should do a coldwater extraction.
no matter how many people talk about this cold water extraction, do you know how many people actually do it? Not very fuckin many! I have been takin pain medication for more then 10 years and have only done it a handful of times. And when I have done it, it was to make an injectable or snortable form of the drug I started with!
Usually when you get a hold of "your" drug, you will keep all the things you read or write on here in the back of your mind, but your main concern is to get high, and to get high as soon as you can! not wait around for an hour for your pill solution to chill, then filter, then get high. or as in my case dry the substance, which will take many hours!
How many times have you actually performed this extraction? If you only have 20 or 30 or 50 pills from the doctor then there is no real problem with just eating the fuckers, thats why he gave them to you~! And if you are eating 20 or 30 or 50 pills a week, then guess what? It's time to take a step up the ladder and advance yourself to a more powerful opiate!!
PEACE!
[ 09 July 2002: Message edited by: Technical User ]
no matter how many people talk about this cold water extraction, do you know how many people actually do it? Not very fuckin many! I have been takin pain medication for more then 10 years and have only done it a handful of times. And when I have done it, it was to make an injectable or snortable form of the drug I started with!
Usually when you get a hold of "your" drug, you will keep all the things you read or write on here in the back of your mind, but your main concern is to get high, and to get high as soon as you can! not wait around for an hour for your pill solution to chill, then filter, then get high. or as in my case dry the substance, which will take many hours!
How many times have you actually performed this extraction? If you only have 20 or 30 or 50 pills from the doctor then there is no real problem with just eating the fuckers, thats why he gave them to you~! And if you are eating 20 or 30 or 50 pills a week, then guess what? It's time to take a step up the ladder and advance yourself to a more powerful opiate!!
PEACE!
[ 09 July 2002: Message edited by: Technical User ]
go-ee
Bluelighter
Haha this cracks me up all the time aswell. APAP has been around for years, its well researched and provided you aren't a regular abuser you will be fine. It is rather ironic when tons of E/meth/coke/alcohol users go on about how bad APAP is and its gonna fuck you up, do a cold water extraction. Unless your doing 3000-4000mg daily I'm sure you will be fine.
the hazardous doses for APAP are more like 10000 mg... definitely 1200 mg will not be all that bad. APAP is not toxic until it overloads the normal enzyme and forces your liver to use a different enzyme which produces toxic byproducts.
incidentally, if you're *extremely* concerned about APAP, you can take N-acetylcysteine (which is available at health food stores). N-acetylcysteine is a source for glutathione, which is the cofactor for the enzyme that metabolizes APAP. when you run out of glutathione, you start metabolizing APAP on the toxic pathway.
incidentally, if you're *extremely* concerned about APAP, you can take N-acetylcysteine (which is available at health food stores). N-acetylcysteine is a source for glutathione, which is the cofactor for the enzyme that metabolizes APAP. when you run out of glutathione, you start metabolizing APAP on the toxic pathway.
SovietContin
Bluelighter
Well here is the other thing with the cold water extraction.
You know how I know that nobody recommending it does it?
Well, if you try it, you'll find out exactly why. Unless you have a huge bottle full of pills, it's just a complete bitch and it waste drugs. Do you have any idea how much water won't go through the coffee filter and will be trapped in the pill material? There is a reason why they say to do it with a vast quantity of pills.
You know how I know that nobody recommending it does it?
Well, if you try it, you'll find out exactly why. Unless you have a huge bottle full of pills, it's just a complete bitch and it waste drugs. Do you have any idea how much water won't go through the coffee filter and will be trapped in the pill material? There is a reason why they say to do it with a vast quantity of pills.
Do you coldwater extraction people have any clue what the fuck they are talking about. For those of you who are all big into harm reduction remember
harm redution=accurate info!!
So you say that taking that tylenol is bad for you. Go find a fucking reputable SOURCE. This issue has been discussed many times so unless you have found the magical unreleased reasearch study on the issue SHUT THE FUCK UP. The back of your tylenol bottle does not count.
Zorn has posted here, or in health Q&A a long discussion about the issue. The general consensus unless you are going way over the top there is no problem. You can safeul imbibe like 4grams a day *chronically* (and even more accutely) without having serious problems.
Things of course change with significant alcohol consumption.
harm redution=accurate info!!
So you say that taking that tylenol is bad for you. Go find a fucking reputable SOURCE. This issue has been discussed many times so unless you have found the magical unreleased reasearch study on the issue SHUT THE FUCK UP. The back of your tylenol bottle does not count.
Zorn has posted here, or in health Q&A a long discussion about the issue. The general consensus unless you are going way over the top there is no problem. You can safeul imbibe like 4grams a day *chronically* (and even more accutely) without having serious problems.
Things of course change with significant alcohol consumption.
This is your first time taking them so if you have no prior tolerance to opiates take anywhere from 3-5 of them. There not that great in my book but they should be alright for you. Just don't drink to much on them... Also next tiem check out http://rxlist.com for more indepth information on T3's...
