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Benzos will making a solution of Miralax and water enable me to inject benzos?

BENZObrist18

BENZObrist18

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Hey all, this is my first post. Ive had an account before but forgot my login cause its been such a long time..
Anyway, i know that alprazolam is hardly soluble in water. ive read its soluble in alcohol and PG400 or 450[which the person said was Miralax]..i cant remember. ive never injected benzos before but ive injected my fair share of opiates.
Now... im not gonna mix my xanax with alcohol just to shoot it cause i cant imagine that injecting alcohol is good for your veins-but then again neither is injecting anything,really- so im trying to inject using a mixture of water and Miralax. Problem is i bought the cheap store breand and it sayd the main ingredient is Polyethylene Glycol 3350.... if i were to make a solution of that an water would the alprazolam dissolve in it? if so, how much PG3350 should i use if i have a half mil rig? and one last thing: is there a difference between PG3350 and PG400[or450]? becaue this is the same thing as miralax and i was actually prescribed it and on the label it says "Common Brand(s): Miralax.

Basically what im asking is this; can i use Polyethylene Glycol 3350 with water to dissolve some xanax to bang?
i know its a little pointless considering the oral bioavailability is around 90% if i remember right.... i just have a needle fixation and ive always wanted to bang some xanax.
I appreciate any and all responses... as long as your not a jerk that is lol
 
First of all, why do you want to inject alprazolam or any benzo to begin with? It has an incredibly high oral bioavailability, which makes any other ROA pretty pointless. Also, there is no rush from IV'ing benzos as with certain opiates.

It really is pointless. I'm obsessed with the needle too but.. making something that isn't water soluble injectable that has no rush, already has a high oral BA, etc, is just dumb IMO.
 
yes, there is a considerable difference between various polyethylene glycols... please don't inject a slurry of water, miralax and alprazolam. you will give yourself a huge abscess or worse...
 
Thank you very much alovesupreme for a clear, definitive answer to my question. thats all i wanted... not a leacture.
thanks for the heads up.

edit; if you dont mind alovesupreme... could you possibly explain the diferences between the polyethylene glycols? just so i can tuck that info into the back of my head for future reference and maybe help out someone else like you helped me.
-BenZo18,.,Go Rays
 
ok, in brief, PEG is a polymer of ethylene oxide. you'll see different PEGs quoted as PEG-X where X is some number. that number X is basically the number of repeating ethylene oxide units in one little atomic bit of whatever PEG we're talking about. the length of the polymer affects all kinds of physical properties like the molecular weight, and, maybe most relevant to this discussion, whether it is solid or liquid at room temperature. if you wanted to put a benzo in solution in PEG, for starters, i think you'd need to choose a PEG that is actually liquid at room temperature.
 
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^^ Yeah, but PEG works just as well to dissolve benzos.

Look, the Oral BA of benzos is so high as to make this pointless. All you're doing is adding risk. So many people black out on benzos, and continue to dose, and dose, and dose, and dose, and dose, and dose. You're risking acidosis with that sort of use injected PG. That is something you REALLY don't want!
 
I've had benzos, Ativan(lorazapam), injected into a PICC line repeatedly in the hospital and it's nothing to get excited about. They give it to you and you feel it after ~5-10 minutes strengthening over a half hour, as scagnattie said you don't get a rush and it's not worth the risk of dangerous med mixes that you're thinking of. If you want it to hit you fast hold it under your tongue or maybe plug it? I'm not versed in plugging benzos but maybe it hits you quicker then sublingual?
 
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AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE SAID!

Dont even bother man. I once did inject 1 1/2 Xanax bars dissolved in vinegar and it was nothing special. Felt exactly like I swallowed them, even less strong. NO RUSH WHATSOEVER. And my veins were in pain!

Just eat them man you'll thank us later!
 
thanks alovesupreme for clearing tht up.
thesameokifears.. yeah i guess i misread it

to everyone else... dont tell me to not do it please. there was one person on here thata actually answered my question which lead me to not do it. theres liket least 3 posts of "dont do it bro!"
 
Wait a sec. I have to get liquid PEG for this to work?!

I've been doing the same thing the OP said. Using the powdered Miralax generic brand, dissolving it in water (roughly 40% water 60% PEG) then dissolving whatever benzo in that solution, then plugging it.

So you're saying, I need liquid PEG? And that the increased effects I've felt are purely placebo?
 
I'd try acquiring some midazolam powder or iv solution and injecting that. Or any other water soluble benzos....
 
alovesupreme said:
ok, in brief, PEG is a polymer of ethylene oxide. you'll see different PEGs quoted as PEG-X where X is some number. that number X is basically the number of repeating ethylene oxide units in one little atomic bit of whatever PEG we're talking about.
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Almost. X refers to the average molecular weight of the polymer chains, not the number of repeat units. To get the repeat unit average, divide X by 44 (the molecular weight of the monomer, polyethylene oxide). Note that I said 'average' since typical PEGs are polydisperse, i.e. there will be different chain lengths, which average out to X.
 
black53 said:
I'd try acquiring some midazolam powder or iv solution and injecting that. Or any other water soluble benzos....
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There aren't any water soluble benzo's. Technically, they all have some water solubility, but Midazolam is practical to be dissolved in water, because the dosages are in the micrograms anyways.

Other than that, a lipid must be used to dissolve the benzo.

Anyways, can someone answer my question above? Can I use the powdery PEG, mix it with a small amout of water and dissolve the benzo in that? Or does it actually have to be liquid PEG?
 
Captain.Heroin said:
go to the needle exchange and pick up citric acid.

look up how much to use, i.e. not much is likely the amount, not the whole gram bag of citric acid they'll hand out.

please use new needles and be careful.
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Thanks for the info, do other acids besides citric acid work?

Also, I forgot to mention that I'm not IV'ing this mixture. I never plan to start the needle. But I am trying to plug benzo's. For some reason, plugging just seems to do it for me. But I'm afraid I may be doing it wrong. I am unable to obtain citric acid as I have no money at the moment and would just rather use PEG anyways because it's found at every local pharmacy. Anyways, do you know if I have to use liquid PEG in order for the benzo's to fully dissolve into the mixture? Or can I just use the powdered PEG, dissolve the PEG in a small amount of water, then dissolve the benzo of my choice in that mixture?

Thanks again, Cap'n ;)
 
I hope this is a joke..... You need USP grade PEG to carry out the mission of successfully being that idiot who injects benzodiazepines because of how much you love the needle that you're being reduced to trying to make a benzodiazepine worth shooting up... $0.02
 
tricomb said:
I hope this is a joke..... You need USP grade PEG to carry out the mission of successfully being that idiot who injects benzodiazepines because of how much you love the needle that you're being reduced to trying to make a benzodiazepine worth shooting up... $0.02
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Plugging refers to rectal administration....
 
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