will i ever appreciate weak opiates again?

[jgwire]

higher the dose harder the fall

i'm the quntessential functional addict. at this point, i really feel like if i could just obtain 50 kilograms of heroin, i would be content and successful for the rest of my life.

yeah that what i happily thought when i got what I thot would be a decent supply of hard opiates each months from a pain doc. it was NEVER enough. And before long, I was shooting myself sober.. or so it seems. I siimply could not get high...my tolerance was getting so high.

I would feel oK for a few hours, then have to dose again, every time i turned around I had to dose -- and I don't enjoy that ritual of shooting, i hate it and see it as means to an end.

I would just sweat.... and do more until I finally ran out and had to get some metahdoen to hold me the rest of the month. It was a cruel awakening, to relalize that my fantasy that all the dope in world would make me happy had turned into a nightmare.

jay...

 

[rashandreflex]

^^
i know you're right, but it's not what i want to hear, heh. i just haven't come even close to reaching the point of having gigantic amounts and gigantic tolerance, so to me it seems like having gigantic amounts would be bliss. i have absolutely no connections. is it just the loss of the high at mammoth tolerances that ruins it? even with a mammoth tolerance, can't you still get high with a ridiculously high dose?

 

[Natural]

I've done tons of opiates and I still really like hydrocodone, if that's weak in your book.

I blow ~60mg of oxycodone to get off now, but I can still enjoy 30-40mg of hydrocodone once in a while, it's a nice calm feeling opposed to the "fucked up" (for lack of better words) feeling oxycodone gives me.

 

[axl blaze]

the other thing that's confusing is that i was using poppy seed tea since, like, march and that still got me kinda high even though seeds are obviously weak. i suspect something about tramadol just isn't so great for me....although i did get high off 25 mg when i was non-tolerant! those were the days....

the thing about poppy tea is that I have heard the consistency of the buzz is not always there. I know people who basically have no opiate tolerance who do not feel a thing, and I know former heroin addicts who swear by drinking it. for tea, a lot of the buzz's merit is own the quality of the pods and the preparation

 

[Adrenochrome]

I used to use grams of heroin daily (100$ on a good day) and having not done it in awhile when i (VERY RARELY) take a T3 for a headache or something I get doped straight,
!!! for real

 

[Supeudol]

The answer for me is Yes. I've done lots of opiates, morphine, hydromorphone, fentanyl, oxycodone....

Anyways I'm addicted to Oxycodone and have been using for just over a year... I only use oral, so I don't get high anymore, although I do get a slight buzz now off 160mg IR (Instant Release).
I took about a three day break, and was able to get high off 80mg of Oxycodone again. Awhile back, I was 15 days clean from Oxycodone and I took 3 tylenol 4's and I was high as well off them. Only 180mg Codeine in that altogether there.

 

[ombladon]

I don't know....it really depends on weather your narcotic habbit was either an Intravenous/Intramuscular habbit or if you smoked your narcotics. If you just snorted, whatever narcotic, be it Heroin or be it Codeine......it's simply just stronger and more sedating....but as long as you have a snorting habbit, there should be no problem AT ALL getting high from something like pure codeine phosphate (with no caffeine) in high enough doses.

For example even after being dependent on smoking 5mg fentanyl a day, I did 320mg of pure codeine phosphate and I can say that was one of the best highs I've had......see i'm not addicted to the rush of smoking, I'm addicted to the nodding out. In this type of case it really doesn't matter.....I was able to appreciate and REALLY LIKE codeine even when smoking fentanyl, until I got on the methadone program and even 10mg smoked fentayl within 3-4 minute period wouldn't give me NOT EVEN AN ITCH.

The only way weak ones will not work...is ONLY if you are 1. On methadone, 2. Used to Injecting or 3. Used to smoking.

 

[ombladon]

It seems like TOLERANCE (and time) is the biggest factor in your case....you never used the syringe....CONGRATULATIONS!!! Have you smoked narcotics?

If the answer to smoking is no, as well....YOU ARE NOT DOOMED, YOU ARE SIMPLY VERY, VERY TOLERANT! The only cure and solution to your problem is TIME! Give some time and again you will INEVITABLY be able to feel the effects of 'weaker' narcotics.

 

[sarbanes]

It is only true to a certain extent, in that long term use causes long term changes, and (subjectively), you have "expectation" tolerance. But if you either only used the relatively stronger ones a bit, and (or), you give your body chance to re-acclimate, the weaker ones can and will feel almost as good as they once did. I say almost, because nothing is exactely the same twice. But its not like MDMA, where the magic is gone. You get off the shit (all shit), and work out and live a healthy life. Then one day try the weak opiates which used to nod you, they will do the exact same job once again. Some even think the opposite is true, and that use (after getting clean like this) you will feel those weaker ones even stronger. But the long and short of it - it is NOT like X. You can get the magic back from the weaker ones (if they did give you magic at one time), but requires you to possibly get your tolerance way down for more than just a few days.