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Assuming you have mdma crystal, I would again advise you to keep the initial dose low. Perhaps 60 mg to start with and if everything's fine after an hour 60 mg again. Girls have lower tolerances for mdma than men. So respect this please.
 
youre way overthinking this... Just make sure the pills are mdma and not something gross then have her take one and see what happens. Have her drink lots of water I guess but mdma is fucking FUN AS SHIT for 9 out of 10 people who try it, so you should worry a lot less about her having a hard/bad time. If you get mdma powder, molly, pure mdma, whatever you wanna call it, same drill test it and eat .1 although that will most likely not be enough for a very solid experience unless its really really pure which is unlikely for someone who has never done mdma before to run into.
 
MrFaust said:
youre way overthinking this... Just make sure the pills are mdma and not something gross then have her take one and see what happens. Have her drink lots of water I guess but mdma is fucking FUN AS SHIT for 9 out of 10 people who try it, so you should worry a lot less about her having a hard/bad time. If you get mdma powder, molly, pure mdma, whatever you wanna call it, same drill test it and eat .1 although that will most likely not be enough for a very solid experience unless its really really pure which is unlikely for someone who has never done mdma before to run into.
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Probably, I tend to do that a lot, LOL.
 
You better be tappin' that on the night she does it. Otherwise, you're a pussy ;)%)
 
ReddbullJesus said:
So a friend of mine has decided that she wants to do ecstasy, and she's never done it before. She's a bit nervous so she decided to come do it at my place, instead of going out to a rave or whatever. I've never done it myself, and due to some medical issues I'm having right now, I won't be partaking. I've been doing the research on it here at bluelight and elsewhere and I feel confident that we can make this a safe and pleasurable experience for her. I'm planning on getting one of those MDMA testing kits and I know to keep her cool and hydrated, but not too hydrated.

Any advice on either safety or just fun stuff to do would be awesome. I've read alot about getting glow sticks, vicks products and what not. She doesn't normally listen to electronic music, but I'm told that onces she's rolling, she'll love it...so I'm in the process of picking up some music she can listen to. I have a 55" HDTV that I can plug my PC into and plan on doing the whole music on winamp with milkdrops visualizer. Black light bulbs are pretty cheap, so I might pick up a few of those too.

Also since its her first time I was gonna have her take half a pill first and then the other half about 30 minutes later. I know some people take more throughout the night. Is it safe for her to take more than one pill since it's her first time? And if so how long into it should she take the second, if at all?

Thanks in advance.
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Def take atleast two pills my man. One is too weak, even for a first experience. It really doesnt show you what true MDMA is and the potential it has, you just feel good, but not GREAT
 
I'll definitely give her one pill, but I'll wait and see how she's feeling and then she can decide if she wants more. I'm seeing everything here from take half, take 60mg, take 90mg and take two pills. I'll just leave it up to her. But she has already decided that she will start with one full dose.
 
ReddbullJesus said:
I'll definitely give her one pill, but I'll wait and see how she's feeling and then she can decide if she wants more. I'm seeing everything here from take half, take 60mg, take 90mg and take two pills. I'll just leave it up to her. But she has already decided that she will start with one full dose.
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Yes, one full dose is *supposed* to get a new roller going good. Pills are rarely designed to split in half anyway - That's why. Only those crazy europeans get those real doublestack (200 mg) pills. If you get MDMA crystal/powder, there's no telling how pure it is. You kind of just have to try some out :\
 
augustaB said:
Assuming you have mdma crystal, I would again advise you to keep the initial dose low. Perhaps 60 mg to start with and if everything's fine after an hour 60 mg again. Girls have lower tolerances for mdma than men. So respect this please.
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This is completely untrue. Natural tolerance has NOTHING to do with your gender. weight/height/size do have something to do with it, but not everything. I've known tiny girls, such as myself, who have a naturally high tolerance to drugs, as well as large men who have a very low tolerance. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with your gender, and everything to do with your genes and physical make up. Don't listen to this person, they don't know what they're talking about.

whippa craka said:
Def take atleast two pills my man. One is too weak, even for a first experience. It really doesnt show you what true MDMA is and the potential it has, you just feel good, but not GREAT
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This, is also untrue. One pill can be plenty for a first time user, it's also your safest bet since you won't know exactly how much is in one pill, or what a first time user's tolerance is. Just go with one pill to start out with. Buy two just in case she decides she wants more, but start out with one. Remember, you can always take more, but you can't take less.

severely etarded said:
Yes, one full dose is *supposed* to get a new roller going good. Pills are rarely designed to split in half anyway - That's why. Only those crazy europeans get those real doublestack (200 mg) pills. If you get MDMA crystal/powder, there's no telling how pure it is. You kind of just have to try some out :\
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This one is true :) Just give her one pill and have fun. Make sure you have more though, in case she feels she really needs it :)
 
sakura.summers said:
This is completely untrue. Natural tolerance has NOTHING to do with your gender. weight/height/size do have something to do with it, but not everything. I've known tiny girls, such as myself, who have a naturally high tolerance to drugs, as well as large men who have a very low tolerance. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with your gender, and everything to do with your genes and physical make up. Don't listen to this person, they don't know what they're talking about.



This, is also untrue. One pill can be plenty for a first time user, it's also your safest bet since you won't know exactly how much is in one pill, or what a first time user's tolerance is. Just go with one pill to start out with. Buy two just in case she decides she wants more, but start out with one. Remember, you can always take more, but you can't take less.



This one is true :) Just give her one pill and have fun. Make sure you have more though, in case she feels she really needs it :)
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Thanks again, yeah, she's relatively small and from what I've seen has a low tolerance to other stuff (alcohol, cannabis, benzos). but I'll take your advice and give her the one dose. IF she wants more, we'll go from there.
 
Voxide said:
You better be tappin' that on the night she does it. Otherwise, you're a pussy ;)%)
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Haha, dude have you considered this? I don't mean you taking advantage, I mean she might decide that's what she wants to do... and she may be pretty forceful about it...

not saying it's gonna go down like that, but it wouldn't surprise me in slightest.
 
superelephant said:
Haha, dude have you considered this? I don't mean you taking advantage, I mean she might decide that's what she wants to do... and she may be pretty forceful about it...

not saying it's gonna go down like that, but it wouldn't surprise me in slightest.
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Without delving too much into the nature of our relationship.....I HIGHLY doubt it.
 
sakura.summers said:
This is completely untrue. Natural tolerance has NOTHING to do with your gender. weight/height/size do have something to do with it, but not everything. I've known tiny girls, such as myself, who have a naturally high tolerance to drugs, as well as large men who have a very low tolerance. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with your gender, and everything to do with your genes and physical make up. Don't listen to this person, they don't know what they're talking about.
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I'm afraid, sakura, that you are gender difference denier. On aggregate women have lower thresholds for mdma. The same applies to alcohol and many other drugs. This difference has do with physiology and metabolism and is nothing to do with sexism.

This is a harm reduction forum and any reasonably cautious person is obliged to point to the dangers so that the person concerned can make an informed decision.

Please see this link for more information about response differences between the sexes http://www.mdma.net/men/index.html
 
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superelephant said:
Haha, dude have you considered this? I don't mean you taking advantage, I mean she might decide that's what she wants to do... and she may be pretty forceful about it...

not saying it's gonna go down like that, but it wouldn't surprise me in slightest.
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I had a girl strip naked, and get on top of me, unzip me, and pull it out when she was rolling. I was sitting in a chair smoking a cigarette...
 
So just got done chatting with her, and she might be having one of her friends come along who's rolled tons of times before. But she has a kid so it all depends on if she finds a sitter. I guess that should help, so she's not rolling alone. Although its still not for sure that I won't be rolling, keeping my fingers crossed that my medical exam goes ok.

severely etarded said:
Unless she's your sister/cousin/aunt etc. or you are gay... IDK man...
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You're right, you don't know.
 
augustaB said:
I'm afraid, sakura, that you are gender difference denier. On aggregate women have lower thresholds for mdma. The same applies to alcohol and many other drugs. This difference has do with physiology and metabolism and is nothing to do with sexism.

This is a harm reduction forum and any reasonably cautious person is obliged to point to the dangers so that the person concerned can make an informed decision.

Please see this link for more information about response differences between the sexes http://www.mdma.net/men/index.html
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This may be true, but you seem to know what you're talking about a lot more than the previous poster. Saying " Girls have lower tolerances for mdma than men" without any kind of explanation is rather naive, as is saying "men need to start with twice the dosage as women, because they're men" which I have heard before.

Yes, it may contribute due to differences in hormones, but I don't believe the difference between a smallish male and a regular sized female would be very different. It's dumb to say "well, your a girl, so we'll give you 60mg your first time, but we'll give your boyfriend 200" You need to take a lot more into account than just gender.

Also, suggesting to start out with 60mg your first time just sounds ridiculously low.
 
Wow, the Disney idea has got to be the best one I've ever heard! I would have never thought of that, despite knowing that childish feeling well :)

I cannot speak highly enough of these- water gel crystals. They're used to keep wine cool, or for a watering system for plants. But they feel amazing to run your hands through, even sober! If you can find some at a flower or party supplies shop, or even on the net it will be well worth it. Wow, no words!

Also squishy and/or light up toys would be good. But don't try to plan too much, just let her go where the night takes her :)
 
sakura.summers said:
This may be true, but you seem to know what you're talking about a lot more than the previous poster. Saying " Girls have lower tolerances for mdma than men" without any kind of explanation is rather naive, as is saying "men need to start with twice the dosage as women, because they're men" which I have heard before.

Yes, it may contribute due to differences in hormones, but I don't believe the difference between a smallish male and a regular sized female would be very different. It's dumb to say "well, your a girl, so we'll give you 60mg your first time, but we'll give your boyfriend 200" You need to take a lot more into account than just gender.

Also, suggesting to start out with 60mg your first time just sounds ridiculously low.
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60 mg of pure mdma (crystal) is about half a normal full strength dose of mdma: 120 mg

You didn't read the article did you?

But I guess conditions are different out there in Northern California ...
 
ReddbullJesus said:
Without delving too much into the nature of our relationship.....I HIGHLY doubt it.
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I don't understand.

If you guys have a terrible sex life then why the fuck are you still with her?


Nevermind, just realized that you aren't in a relationship. Still, what the fuck are doing hanging out with a girl when you know you aren't getting any action?
 
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