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⫸STICKY⫷ Why you shouldn't abuse Ketamine (nsfw photos)

Generation K: The disturbing rise of ketamine abuse among young people

www.bbc.co.uk

Generation K: The disturbing rise of ketamine abuse among young people

Increasing numbers of young people are using the drug, experts say. The health impacts can be catastrophic.
www.bbc.co.uk

Amazing to think that 30 years ago ketamine cost £50/gram. Now I notice that £15-£30/gram is the stated price. A quick inflation calculation shows that the price has dropped 50-75% in real terms.

It now makes sense to me who MXE, a homologue I felt to be much better than ketamine is now rarely encountered. I'm not inferring that MXE is 'bladder safe' but I cannot help but reflect that it's higher potency likely made it SAFER.

Ketamine isn't simple to produce, in fact dedicated production-lines are generally employed. But it's worth noting that the internation price for legally sold ketamine ranges from $252-$451/Kg.

On reading this, I can understand why the UK government decided to make ketamine a class A drug. I don't believe it's going to alter the penalty for personal amounts, but it does mean that wholesalers could now be faced with life imprisonment.

Interesting that the PSA only provides for a maximum sentence of 7 years. I'm not sure if MXE has been explicitly controlled but there are compounds that are not arylcyclohexylamines that produce effects like K. No idea if they are toxic.,
 
I've a hunch the "ketamine" I was using last year was really an RC/Analogue. Always tested up a bit funky in on the mandelin reagents, would be the right colour but occasionally not react/fizzle but not change color. Regardless it felt/tasted/produced consistent experiences every time and was a hell of a lot of fun, euphoric as hell in the early days and helped me fix some things internally and have some pretty big realisations. Also travelled to some ineffable places on it that I never thought was possible outside of DMT.

What I cant wrap my head around is how ketamine can be effective for daily abuse, for me the 2nd day is always pretty diminished/loss of magic and by the 3rd day all I would get is a bit of mania and this short lived weird bubbly/fish eye like vision where the shape of my surroundings all seemed "wobbly". It pretty much would stop working by the third day regardless of dose.

Maybe this doesn't happen with legit ket and you can get decent effects regularly idk.
 
I think I mentioned it before but someone offered us what they claimed was the N-ethyl homologue of K. The NMR clearly showed that the -Cl was para and not ortho. They argued, we sent proof.... they offered it at a lower price!

So maybe WE were the odd ones out because we would not misrepresent products - but these days I doubt people care. Vendors seek profit and don't care if end users are harmed.
 
ick. been addicted to K for coming up to 5 years now and I've been lucky to get away with no bladder complications. K cramps sent from Satan him fucking self on the regular, but nothing regarding my bladder or urinary system, luckily but this is a reminder I'm not invincible
 
This is the the post that made me create an account on this forum, i cant express how much this impacts someone that is not very used to seeing different types of drugs (i do only weed and mushrooms).
Honestly, i barely use this website, but once in a while i come here to check things, read a report here and there. But I always end up here, such a powerful insight, a way to show people how to be careful and that there is always hope to improve no matter how hard it looks.
I dont even know you, but i thank you very much for this. I come to aprecciate my life more because of this!
 
So my habit is creeping up really high really fast and I’m gonna be working with a team to nip it in the bud, but I have to say aside from the typical damage. It’s doing to external factors my internal spiritual life with ketamine of all drugs and I’m talking psychedelics DMT Everything there’s something about ketamine in the way it reacts to my body that allows me to think profoundly spiritually meditate at least seemingly incredibly deeply and make enough progress that it makes me want justify to keep using trying to do it responsibly as well injecting with a micro filter, but it gets to the point where I’ll start off with There being a few days or weeks in between getting my next zip and uncomfortable in dissociated but benzos help keep me level not a good thing either but neither here or there but then they get back on even if my tolerance is lowered my God like what it does see you when your tolerance is low For what it does see what your tolerance and high is is exuberantly different and it happens so quickly it’s a difference between taking a trip down the Nile as Jesus on 300 mg and soph versus shooting 600 and doing 303 times a night. It’s just really weird And it’s so bad for my nose like I’m starting to realize the damage that I’m doing but again, I think one of the gold standards in kidney and bladder care right now is snack and I’m not saying it’s gonna cure everyone or everything but neck gluon a big one for me is I’ve taken magnesium. Health urinate every single day that I’ve taken ketamine and I know that that’s helping with the glutamate storm because like I would, I would probably not be here based on How uncomfortable things are and how challenging life can be and I have these these days that come through that are just the most beautiful special days and then I have these weeks and months at times where I lost a lot of my family and I feel so alone and it’s just a really tough place to be in, but I think what I’m trying to drive home at is you can only control so much I think you need to give yourself grace but you also need to work with a team where you can make a plan in that plan might not be total absence right out of the gate Our reduction is a thing and I think that one of the best treatment centers in the area made me get off five years of Suboxone in seven days and the first two months of treatment they couldn’t participate I would cry throw up get angry all to be put back on MT as soon as I get out of there cause it keeps people alive it’s all based on a mindset that was built around opiates before the fentanyl. It doesn’t make sense to me and I’m confused but I’m trying I need everyone know I’m trying cause like my mom and I can’t figure it out and all I’ve asked repeatedly is that we wait to try to connect with a professional and she can even pick her own but I have a couple of guys that I really trust. Everything will be good, but I don’t know what she wants for me But what I’m hearing her is she wants me to to tell her how much I fucked up her life how much money I owe her and then I’m the cause of her embarrassment and meanwhile my cost in my abilities to see my son was jeopardized while my mom was front and center in my addiction codependent driving me around because I didn’t even have the keys to my own car and allowing Rory to being my hair and While I don’t blame my mom for my addiction, I do blame the sober decisions that were made while he was in our care on her and I don’t think she can even step back to consider any wrongdoing or it’s just because it’s so painful that could be inclusive of her looking back at the things that happened to her as a child because That’s what our last fight was it exploded into me telling her about my experience like working through certain things and that I’ve got a long way to go, and that we had a very different upbringing, and but she had met. My father were young and his family kind of adopted her and I think There’s a lot of addiction on her side of the family, but we ended up being a strange from them because they couldn’t behave very well and I went through life without any exposure to addiction. I watched friends die from OxyContin, obviously and stuff like that, which is terrible, but I kept going to college and had a girlfriend the whole time and stayed away from them and then while I was struggling with alcohol at 35 I found literally like a size 14 shoebox men’s shoebox full of opiates and painkillers and gabapentin in like I threw up a little bit in my mouth so when I opened it and I just remember thinking to myself like oh no cause like I am probably gonna go from This this challenge with alcohol to either having a huge huge addiction to these other opiates or you know I’ll end up dropping the alcohol but the opiates it’s not that simple so and I also got in the habit of if I’d run out of like his third script of Dilaudid that these are all 20 years old like logically the addict in my brain was like I need to buy him new ones in case he knows they’re missing so I had order replacements from the Mexican pharmacy in the next thing you know I’m high again doing three times as many And it just really was a disaster but all the cliché words stick with me and a woman I saw that was a body. Healer told me that you know the reason that you are here right now is to turn your mess into a message so I’m starting here with this message which is rambling and I don’t even know what it’s about but take good care of yourselves recognize that NAC is over-the-counter and you can start there When it comes time you know building your mitochondria health will give you some energy act that you probably lost along the way that’s me when I’m Q and instead of getting these through an online pharmacy provider which you certainly can. I think the quality of modern amino’s is spectacular and I haven’t seen their Labor Day sale yet, but I’m gonna go check it out so much so Kim’s is also very good. They are the new amino asylum so again like different different form but the way that they transition things I thought it was done really really well and it was for our benefit ultimately or everybody’s but the sun is up. This is like day two of no sleep so I’m gonna try to get some sleep before I have my Intake with my team to get them some help starting Monday or Tuesday, but good luck and stay safe everybody.
 
obviously welcoming any all ideas, I work in HR in higher education, and it’s really embarrassing on top of the shame of the guilt that we have drug addicts have to be in the department that is responsible for administering leaves getting peoplel been two nights but like I can’t do what I used to do and like I don’t want to and I’m gonna sleep so good cause I got to take some growth hormone and some MK 677 but I’ve been having struggling eating and yeah, I just got a long way to go, but hopefully I forgot I definitely have the right people from rise helping me out and I’m so grateful for them too so more to come hopefully they’ll be a finished room and a clean house and I’ll be heading somewhere to get some additional treatment if necessary or maybe will be working your family sessions around that but there’s a a lot of of tightness and anger I have around my mom right now for the things that I put her through like how dare her like who the fuck do I think I am kind of deal from her it’s like I don’t think I’m anybody I think I’m I think I’m I’m a guy who pays all the utilities over $1000 in rent is a legal tenant that you tried to evict in 48 hours, she tried to tell him he incapable of taking care of his own dog and that he’s the worst father in the world and like you when I asked you why you’re there you said it was cause you were my mother and I have an experienced you as my mother in a very, very long time and then I said that you know you seem to me very much like a person who’s given up like you used to do things you don’t do anything anymore you won’t listen to 25 minute podcast that they give you 10 minute podcast that they give you in the sub that are just so interesting. I think in the instructions to just make sure you meditate every day you put time aside doesn’t matter how long but you meditate every day and you got nothing to lose and that it does show up. It shows up in your life differently and like you have to trust that’s the source and like we’ve all experienced that when we go, we get ice cream together we watch the sunset we play disc golf and it comes too close to somebody’s house and we all laugh about it cause we do it again like I don’t know like it is a fucking crazy game but like like that’s a good place for crazy people and this song to the Chuck my man like I just I can’t believe it we can you throw it you can you can hit it underhand like a golf club like it’s it’s a skill. It’s definitely a skill and I’ve only played it once but like I can see they love making money if they don’t make money off this I don’t know why they wouldn’t and there are a couple of pats for it I guess like a guy used to date. My mom has one, but I don’t know what that looks like.
 
4DQSAR said:
I think I mentioned it before but someone offered us what they claimed was the N-ethyl homologue of K. The NMR clearly showed that the -Cl was para and not ortho. They argued, we sent proof.... they offered it at a lower price!

So maybe WE were the odd ones out because we would not misrepresent products - but these days I doubt people care. Vendors seek profit and don't care if end users are harmed.
Click to expand...
So it was 4-cl-2-oxo-PCE? What was it like? Have not heard about this compound before

Edit: The para-fluoro variant of O-PCE (”4-FXE” I guess) exists in a bunch of databases though
 
Damn this shit is scary. I recently got into K and have been doing maybe .3-.5g a night IM for a good few weeks.

Nothing like the OP or others in this thread but is a helpful wakeup call.
 
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